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11/25/2009 5:38:15 PM EDT
Does anyone know what scope the military uses on their carbines?
Where can you get them?
I was thinking that the military has many grips and scops available for the troops?

Jeff
11/25/2009 5:39:20 PM EDT
[#1]
ACOG.
11/25/2009 5:47:26 PM EDT
[#2]
Trijicon ACOG, Aimpoint, and EOTech are the main ones.  I saw a few C Mores back in the day, haven't seen any lately.  Seen a few Elcans too, very few.  I've seen a few people in country with personal scopes, such as Leupolds.  Rare to see anything but the stock grip on the M4 though.

  Stocks are generally either the standard M4, standard A2, or LMT Sopmod.  Forends are usually either stock plastic or KAC railed.
11/25/2009 6:00:18 PM EDT
[#3]
ACOGs
EOTechs
Aimpoints
11/25/2009 6:06:19 PM EDT
[#4]
My M4 clone

Acog TA01NSN



eotech


Just wait for Jcrowl, he'll post pics of the blue couch and 363634 clone builds hes done.
11/25/2009 6:06:23 PM EDT
[#5]
I just wanted to share what I've seen 1st Cav Soldiers and Airmen using on their M4s...

Army:

What I mostly see...

ACOGs:
TA01NSN (with and without Doctor Optic)
TA31F (with and without Doctor Optic)
TA11F
Aimpoint Comp M2 & Comp M4

I will see these every now and then...

Eotech 552 & 551
Cmore ATAC


Airforce (like the Security Forces here):

Mostly Comp M2s and some TA01NSNs. Never really see any other kind of ACOGs other than the NSN model.


Airforce JTACs (High Speed, Low Drag MF'ers):

Leupold CQ/T
Eotech 552, 551 and 512 (Not sure why they would issue a JTAC an Eotech that's not compatible with NVGs )
Comp M2
Elcan Spectre DR
Various ACOGs

Let's just say I am envious of the JTACs and the wide array of Optics they get issued. Out of all the JTACs I've met, most of them use and prefer their Eotechs.

I like to get my Optics from Rainier Arms


Nathan




11/25/2009 6:13:03 PM EDT
[#6]
Great info, thanks!

Who makes the Mil fore grip?
11/25/2009 6:16:21 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
Great info, thanks!

Who makes the Mil fore grip?


Knights Armament does most of the rail systems and VFGs used on the M4 platform weapons. But like optics, theres others.
See my pics above for pics of Knights VFG and rail system.

11/25/2009 6:20:23 PM EDT
[#8]
Knight's Armament, and I think I've seen a few with Grip Pods.
11/26/2009 4:36:46 AM EDT
[#9]
The real thing: son's M4 with the Aimpoint when he was deployed.

11/26/2009 6:21:33 AM EDT
[#10]
Nightforce has sold a lot of NXS 1-4x24's w/ Mildot reticles and ZeroStop's to Crane - the ideal reticle really is the Mildot with that scope though......
11/26/2009 6:27:48 AM EDT
[#11]
Comp M2

TA31F ACOG


TA01NSN ACOG


Comp M3
11/26/2009 11:02:51 AM EDT
[#12]
Nice pictures.

I want to outfit mine like a Mil style.
Looks like the military lets the solders outfit their guns with different options, kinda custom for every soldure?
Mine is an Amalite with a mid grip.  I don't think the US army uses mid grip do they?

Jeff
11/26/2009 12:20:52 PM EDT
[#13]
Quoted:
Great info, thanks!

Who makes the Mil fore grip?


Knight's Armament Corp (KAC). Honestly, I don't care for it. Too fricken small for my hand, has no storage capability and no place for a tape switch.

I do see a LOT of 1st Cav with Grip Pods.

I prefer TangoDown's VFG. I've got about four of them on personal weapons and one on my issued weapon. I would like to Try Larue's Grip and will probably order one when I get back.

Regards,
Nathan
11/26/2009 12:26:53 PM EDT
[#14]
Quoted:
Nice pictures.

I want to outfit mine like a Mil style.
Looks like the military lets the solders outfit their guns with different options, kinda custom for every soldure?
Mine is an Amalite with a mid grip.  I don't think the US army uses mid grip do they?

Jeff


Just to clarify, you mean Midlength Handguards, correct? The Mil uses Carbine length...

If so, I recommend Daniel Defense or Larue Rail systems. I like my KAC M4 RAS, but there are better options out there.

The Daniel Defense Omega Rail comes in a Midlength size and is user installed. Locks up solid and free floats the barrel.

http://www.rainierarms.com/?page=shop/detail&product_id=1077


Nathan

11/26/2009 3:21:55 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Nice pictures.

I want to outfit mine like a Mil style.
Looks like the military lets the solders outfit their guns with different options, kinda custom for every soldure?
Mine is an Amalite with a mid grip.  I don't think the US army uses mid grip do they?

Jeff


The word is "Soldier".  It is the "US Army" as there is only 1 US Army just as there is only 1 US Navy or US Air Force.

I see few KAS grips in use now.  Every M4 MWS has a Grip Pod for it.  It is up to the Soldier or unit SOP to determine if it is used.
11/26/2009 3:57:41 PM EDT
[#16]
"Soldier", sp
My apologies..no disrespect intended, no offence, . I can't spell that great.  Can't spell my middle name right half the time.

My rifle is a 15A4CBA2 mid length.
Guess I would need a carbine upper to get that military look.
I may get a M&P 5.45 upper since I have a lot of low cost 5.45 ammo.  That would be the carbine type.  


Jeff
11/26/2009 4:15:00 PM EDT
[#17]
This is my M4.  I have been granted some extra leeway as regards modifications, for one reason or another.  
Colt upper/lower.
KAC 4-rail carbine length
Magpul CTR
Falcon Ind. Ergo Grip
Trijicon TA31F
Jerry rigged issued sling. (The ring from a blank adapter + a snap-link + some 550 cord.)
ETA: Also an M203.  Forgot about that somehow.
ETAII: Also a PEQ15.  That's been removed since the photo, it stalwartly refused to be zeroed.

11/27/2009 5:51:13 AM EDT
[#18]
Does anyone have comments on this?
They guy said it is a clone.
Says it is built well, feels real, and Functions the same. It does
magnify 4x32.   " It performs like/better than optics of its type. The big difference is looks like an
ACOG and has all the branding and markings of one. "
It has no tritium so it uses a battery to supply power to the illumination
Any thoughts?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=147935094
11/27/2009 6:28:53 AM EDT
[#19]
Quoted:
The real thing: son's M4 with the Aimpoint when he was deployed.

http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p118/MDWINK/MichaelsM46-30-07b.jpg




Nice, your son deployed with a CAA grip, CAA M44 railed forearm, G2 (think) white light, and I have no idea what that optic is from this view.  I am glad to see the troops get to personalize their weapons.
11/27/2009 6:49:28 AM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Does anyone have comments on this?
They guy said it is a clone.
Says it is built well, feels real, and Functions the same. It does
magnify 4x32.   " It performs like/better than optics of its type. The big difference is looks like an
ACOG and has all the branding and markings of one. "
It has no tritium so it uses a battery to supply power to the illumination
Any thoughts?

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=147935094


Rip-off clone. Waste of money.
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