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10/20/2015 3:50:02 PM EDT
After looking around the AR15.com site I felt that the Retro Forum is the place to post this. This is the 25 anniversary of the Milazzo-Krieger M-K II Two Stage trigger.  
The Wisconsin Trigger Company, INC.  has resumed the production of the Milazzo-Krieger M-K II two stage trigger system. This was the first and the finest two stage trigger made for the AR-15. We have started to post some of the history of this trigger system on our web site. if you would like to learn more.
When this trigger was in production back in the early 90s it smoked any thing out there. The USAMU along with civilian shooters set multiple records at Camp Perry and other world class matches. I know of several in Wisconsin that are still in competition and was hoping to here from anyone that used the M-K II back in the day to set a record that still stands. I am grateful for any INFO you can provide.
10/20/2015 4:00:53 PM EDT
[#1]
i had one years ago which i mistook for a geissele.  i emailed them a picture with this question

The hammer has U.S. PAT. NO.5,501,134 on it and the trigger and hammer has 3534 electropenciled on it.  Trigger has MK II, disconnector has T F G on it.  The rear portion of trigger has an allen screw on top for disconnector adjustment.
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and they sent back this info:

The trigger is a Krieger Millazo. They were made for a couple of years in the mid 1990s. Its a decent trigger but has some things to be aware of. First and formost the safety ledge is cut by a gunsmith at installation. The safety has to be checked for proper operation at assy. VR. Bill
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10/20/2015 4:03:28 PM EDT
[#2]
They're still in use, but Most of out team is using geissles. There's still a bunch of our lowers with the krieger-malazzo triggers in them.
10/20/2015 4:23:30 PM EDT
[#3]
Yep, You need to cut down the tail of the trigger housing to set the over travel. We have some videos that show you how to do this. They will be posted some time this week on the web site. It's not that bad to fit. In the next generation the M-K IIA2 this need is eliminated.
10/20/2015 4:27:22 PM EDT
[#4]
Hi vwc223
Do you know the round count on your lowers?
10/20/2015 5:03:22 PM EDT
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Do you know the round count on your lowers?
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Not a clue, we only keep round counts on uppers
10/20/2015 5:35:48 PM EDT
[#6]
may want to post this over on the high power section,

https://www.ar15.com/forums/f_9/14_High_Power___DCM___CMP.html



I have never shot one, but heard good things about the triggers,

10/21/2015 12:44:20 AM EDT
[#7]
A good friend of mine, currently deployed, has one in his match AR.  It is a great feeling trigger.  I don't know much else about it.  I know I could dig up some more info.  I will check back in.
10/21/2015 10:20:03 AM EDT
[#8]
Thanks, Any information on the history of the M-K II will be greatly appreciated. Please thank your friend for his service to our country.
10/21/2015 12:17:02 PM EDT
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Back in the Early '90's, I bought a complete Eagle Arms Lower Half, at large Gun Shop in Waukegan, Il. that had this type of Trigger setup in it.

I put a Colt 20" A2 HBAR Upper on it.  I shot at a few match's and was very impressed with the Trigger and how it felt.  Overall I did fairly well.

I was told the Lower had approx. 3500rds on it when I purchased it, and when I sold it, it had another 2500rds.  And that Trigger was still very Nice.

The ranges I shot at were outside of Kenosha (Bristol) & Racine WI.



10/21/2015 1:09:34 PM EDT
[#10]
I shut down a match at that range back in about 1974. My cousin lived about a ½ mile from the range, they had just moved in that weekend. Unfortunately they lived on the berm side. Well at 7 years old we walked down an old railroad trench to see what all the shooting was about. The range master in the tower saw us and called a ceasefire then scared the hell out of us yelling over the PA system to get out ASAP to put it mildly. That was the first time I heard that kind of language echoing down a valley. Now that I think of it he was a very accomplished wordsmith. Sorry If I messed up you score that day. Thanks for the round count INFO.
10/22/2015 11:43:20 AM EDT
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I have one and I'm still using it 20 years later in my service rifle.
It's outlasted two barrels and is still as crisp as the day it was installed.
I recently found my original packaging with the installation instructions.
10/23/2015 8:08:26 PM EDT
[#12]
2 Barrels not  bad. It will use up 2 more and still be as good as new. At 20 years old you must have one of the first ones out.
Thanks, Ron
10/23/2015 11:49:34 PM EDT
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Back in the Early '90's, I bought a complete Eagle Arms Lower Half, at large Gun Shop in Waukegan, Il. that had this type of Trigger setup in it.

I put a Colt 20" A2 HBAR Upper on it.  I shot at a few match's and was very impressed with the Trigger and how it felt.  Overall I did fairly well.

I was told the Lower had approx. 3500rds on it when I purchased it, and when I sold it, it had another 2500rds.  And that Trigger was still very Nice.

The ranges I shot at were outside of Kenosha (Bristol) & Racine WI.


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Sorry if I am OT.

Had to be the Smoke'N'Gun IRRC.

Cigar store / Tobacco Shop + Gun Store.

I shopped a lot there but never actually bought a firearm there.  '99 - '02.

The salesmen there managed to rub me the wrong way every time...

Didn't care for the boss either, even if the prick was in a wheelchair.

Did buy some stuff at the now defunct 'Adventure Store' though.
10/24/2015 8:12:03 AM EDT
[#14]
I remember installing one that Reed Knight sent me in 1993 for my first SR-25 (Serial No. 15) before I moved to Florida and went to work for him at Knight's Armament. The trigger worked great, but was a little tedious to install with its "cut and try" method. But certainly this early 2-stage trigger led the way to so many "drop in" alternatives available today...
That first one I installed in No. 15 was my "learning curve." A bit later Reed sent me two more sets to retrofit into two early SR-25's that the FBI was evaluation at their ranges in Quantico. Those two I installed and set-up right on their firing range pretty easily now that I understood the nature of the design...
10/25/2015 11:56:09 AM EDT
[#15]
Cut and try dose take some time on the first one. Just go slow and be as accurate as you can. When its done and done properly it feels like no other trigger. On the next generation the M-K IIA2 you do not need to cut down the tail. We keep the Old Dog M-K II feel we just make the set up a bit simpler. You can register to get the product updates on the Wisconsin Trigger Company web site. We will send email when the A2 and other new models are ready. No spam or other emails.  Just for fun we are mailing out some magnets and stickers if any one want's any. You can check the no box to the updates and we will still send out the freebies. Thanks for the FBI INFO, that’s the history I like to hear about. We have some big shoes to fill. Thanks, Ron

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