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Posted: 5/30/2006 6:40:49 PM EDT

Found this on this website:www.mapartsinc.com/anything.asp

Sometimes, when Colt has a bad day, they manufacture what is politely called a "large pin lower". Most would call it a reject. They come from a hole drilling placement error, so they just center it up in the right place and drill it out bigger. Instead of a proper .250" diameter hole (as our uppers have), you get a front pivot pin hole in the lower that is .312" diameter. Simple solution? Get the $5 Colt Offset Pin. It will adapt any standard USGI dimensioned upper to any Colt "large pivot pin" lower. When they're really having a bad day, they create "large pin" hammers, disconnectors and triggers, along with the 2 appropriate .169" large pins to secure them. These are internal parts in the lower, and that's probably a non-issue, as you already have a working set. However, we do have them. If you have a Colt large pin upper and want to mate it to someone's USGI dimensioned lower, we also have the "sleeve" to do that, as well.

This doesn't seem to jibe with what I have been learning recently in regards to Colt uppers since I bought one.
These guys serious?

Posted: 5/30/2006 6:51:38 PM EDT

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Did Darth Vader have anything to do with this?

Posted: 5/30/2006 7:01:24 PM EDT

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Did Darth Vader have anything to do with this?

i am sure that this is another branch from that drasen tree

to the original poster, you can trust them, or use your money to wipe your ass with and write "tard" on your forehead, the end result will be the same.

Posted: 5/30/2006 7:43:58 PM EDT

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Found this on this website:www.mapartsinc.com/anything.asp

Sometimes, when Colt has a bad day, they manufacture what is politely called a "large pin lower". Most would call it a reject. They come from a hole drilling placement error, so they just center it up in the right place and drill it out bigger. Instead of a proper .250" diameter hole (as our uppers have), you get a front pivot pin hole in the lower that is .312" diameter. Simple solution? Get the $5 Colt Offset Pin. It will adapt any standard USGI dimensioned upper to any Colt "large pivot pin" lower. When they're really having a bad day, they create "large pin" hammers, disconnectors and triggers, along with the 2 appropriate .169" large pins to secure them. These are internal parts in the lower, and that's probably a non-issue, as you already have a working set. However, we do have them. If you have a Colt large pin upper and want to mate it to someone's USGI dimensioned lower, we also have the "sleeve" to do that, as well.

This doesn't seem to jibe with what I have been learning recently in regards to Colt uppers since I bought one.
These guys serious?

I imagine you have to read that with a bit of a sense of humor.

Posted: 5/30/2006 8:00:57 PM EDT

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Did Darth Vader have anything to do with this?

Darth Vader Says:

Posted: 5/30/2006 8:26:09 PM EDT

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I imagine you have to read that with a bit of a sense of humor.

But they sounded so serious.....

Posted: 5/30/2006 9:31:59 PM EDT

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Found this on this website:www.mapartsinc.com/anything.asp

Sometimes, when Colt has a bad day, they manufacture what is politely called a "large pin lower". Most would call it a reject. They come from a hole drilling placement error, so they just center it up in the right place and drill it out bigger. Instead of a proper .250" diameter hole (as our uppers have), you get a front pivot pin hole in the lower that is .312" diameter. Simple solution? Get the $5 Colt Offset Pin. It will adapt any standard USGI dimensioned upper to any Colt "large pivot pin" lower. When they're really having a bad day, they create "large pin" hammers, disconnectors and triggers, along with the 2 appropriate .169" large pins to secure them. These are internal parts in the lower, and that's probably a non-issue, as you already have a working set. However, we do have them. If you have a Colt large pin upper and want to mate it to someone's USGI dimensioned lower, we also have the "sleeve" to do that, as well.

This doesn't seem to jibe with what I have been learning recently in regards to Colt uppers since I bought one.
These guys serious?

That's because that whole paragraph is complete BS.

100% of Colt's pre-1990 semi AR-type rifles had large pivot pins. That's over a hundred thousand rifles over 30 years; certainly no accident. In addition, the lugs on these uppers and lowers are oversize, to accomidate the larger hole. You don't just say "oops", and then ADD metal to a receiver. Finally, the holes are off-set compared to standard-size holes, which would be impossible to do considering a drilling jig is used for all of the receiver holes.

And, yes, M&A Parts has a Drasen connection.

Buyer beware.

-Troy

Posted: 5/31/2006 5:54:07 PM EDT

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I would avoid those ****offs at all cost

Posted: 5/31/2006 5:59:14 PM EDT

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And this was the company that several people were telling me a few months ago to buy my new upper from

Glad I didnt do it.

Posted: 5/31/2006 7:41:24 PM EDT

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And this was the company that several people were telling me a few months ago to buy my new upper from Glad I didnt do it.

who on earth, that knows the drasen drama, would suggest you buy from them. maybe you want to get some new friends.

Posted: 5/31/2006 7:42:48 PM EDT

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And this was the company that several people were telling me a few months ago to buy my new upper from Glad I didnt do it.

who on earth, that knows the drasen drama, would suggest you buy from them. maybe you want to get some new friends.

I went with Model 1 Sales instead, and before you say anything there I have to say that I am overly pleased with both product and service from them.

Posted: 5/31/2006 7:43:34 PM EDT

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And this was the company that several people were telling me a few months ago to buy my new upper from Glad I didnt do it.

who on earth, that knows the drasen drama, would suggest you buy from them. maybe you want to get some new friends.

I went with Model 1 Sales instead, and before you say anything there I have to say that I am overly pleased with both product and service from them.

well, i dont want to be the first to tell you.

Posted: 5/31/2006 7:47:12 PM EDT

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This is my Model 1 Sales... Shoots 1/2 inch at 100 yards with Mk 262 Mod 1. I am VERY pleased.

Posted: 6/1/2006 3:56:06 AM EDT

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I got a 5" slip over flash hider from them the other day and it had missed the 1/2x28 threading operation on the inside. I sent them an e-mail pointing this out and said I would just thread it myself, but they should check the rest of their stock. Their response........................

"Those don't have threads, that's why it's called a "slip over".

WTF?

Tony Rumore
Tromix Corp

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