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Originally Posted By Honda4828: Not if you cut it down to 10.3” Although technically these look like FBI profile barrels(no cuts). If you scroll up on this page you will see discussion on the use of cutdown Colt Socom barrels on the MK18. It has been covered on here before as well. I personally have a Cut down colt fbi hrt barrel on my mk18 0. It use to wear a govt FN 10.3, but I swapped to the colt and never looked back. The pros of the 10.3” socoms far out weigh the one con when compared to the gov profile IMHO. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By delta_romeo_echo:
Is the commando barrel lighter/thinner than the SOCOM profile barrel? I need one for a FBI clone build and was going to chop a 16" Colt barrel I have but for the price maybe I'll snag one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By delta_romeo_echo:
Originally Posted By Honda4828: Not if you cut it down to 10.3” Although technically these look like FBI profile barrels(no cuts). If you scroll up on this page you will see discussion on the use of cutdown Colt Socom barrels on the MK18. It has been covered on here before as well. I personally have a Cut down colt fbi hrt barrel on my mk18 0. It use to wear a govt FN 10.3, but I swapped to the colt and never looked back. The pros of the 10.3” socoms far out weigh the one con when compared to the gov profile IMHO. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Accuracy is better, IME. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Originally Posted By smitty_007: Are you shooting FA? I though there weren’t massive pros to the Socom over the Govt profile unless you were going FA... Here is the Molon test https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/Accuracy_Evaluations_of_14_5__AR_15_Barrels_From_Colt__Noveske_and_more______/118-687913/ |
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Originally Posted By Conner378:
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Originally Posted By brodband8:
Don't recall any of my other 4p's changing colors but noticed mine did after the range yesterday lol. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/56478635_989083841286804_5313735059029622784_n_jpg-905420.JPG View Quote Attached File |
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Originally Posted By brodband8:
Don't recall any of my other 4p's changing colors but noticed mine did after the range yesterday lol. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/56478635_989083841286804_5313735059029622784_n_jpg-905420.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Honda4828: Their email states it as being an FBI barrel which is profiled the same as the socom. On the link it states it being heavy and ‘commando’. The 11.5” commando upper ‘6933’ is a lighter weight barrel. I do not believe this is one of those. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/463094/CBAC83AD-64F4-4239-8F03-AACFEA9B92B6_png-905556.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By BNW:
That picture is definitely not the FBI/Socom profile. Plus it says commando barrel in the description. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BNW:
Originally Posted By Honda4828: Their email states it as being an FBI barrel which is profiled the same as the socom. On the link it states it being heavy and ‘commando’. The 11.5” commando upper ‘6933’ is a lighter weight barrel. I do not believe this is one of those. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/463094/CBAC83AD-64F4-4239-8F03-AACFEA9B92B6_png-905556.JPG Its too fat before the gas block to be govt |
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Looks like an FBI barrel to me. They are SOCOM profile but without the M203 cuts. AU is kind of known for mislabeling Colt shit lol Its too fat before the gas block to be govt View Quote |
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Originally Posted By BNW:
Look at the picture towards the bottom of the last page of the FBI clone thread. It compares the AU picture with an actual Socom profile barrel View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BNW:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Looks like an FBI barrel to me. They are SOCOM profile but without the M203 cuts. AU is kind of known for mislabeling Colt shit lol Its too fat before the gas block to be govt I'm wondering if maybe the FBI spec'd their own proprietary profile. |
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On the first page build sheet for a Block II clone under Pistol Grip and stock, it lists "& others"...
how broad is this "others"? Because I'd like to use a Magpul SL-S and Magpul K2+ Grip. I've switched all my grips on all my other rifles to the K2+ overmold because, in my opinion, it's hands down the best full size grip on the market. Great angle, great storage, great tackiness, and killer looks. And the SL-S stock still has that B5/LMT SOPMOD profile look and feel but it locks up alot tighter. It's just a better more modern product AND at a better price too, IMO. Would either of these magpul items be too weird for a Block II CQBR? Also, is there a generally accepted front grip for the Block II? I'm a big fan of the BCM vertical Grip (short and Mod3) and would choose one of those if suitable. |
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Appears to be a different profile altogether right at the gas block. It is thicker than govt though for sure. I'm wondering if maybe the FBI spec'd their own proprietary profile. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By BNW:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Looks like an FBI barrel to me. They are SOCOM profile but without the M203 cuts. AU is kind of known for mislabeling Colt shit lol Its too fat before the gas block to be govt I'm wondering if maybe the FBI spec'd their own proprietary profile. |
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Originally Posted By BNW:
That picture is definitely not the FBI/Socom profile. Plus it says commando barrel in the description. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By BNW:
Originally Posted By Honda4828: Their email states it as being an FBI barrel which is profiled the same as the socom. On the link it states it being heavy and ‘commando’. The 11.5” commando upper ‘6933’ is a lighter weight barrel. I do not believe this is one of those. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/463094/CBAC83AD-64F4-4239-8F03-AACFEA9B92B6_png-905556.JPG |
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Originally Posted By Honda4828:
These have been questioned on the AU industry thread. Curious to see their answer. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Honda4828:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By BNW:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Looks like an FBI barrel to me. They are SOCOM profile but without the M203 cuts. AU is kind of known for mislabeling Colt shit lol Its too fat before the gas block to be govt I'm wondering if maybe the FBI spec'd their own proprietary profile. Something is fuckey. AU is calling them "FBI/HRT" in the IF thread. "Commando heavy profile " on their webpage. Profile in their ad pic is....well , new to me. |
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Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Something is fuckey. AU is calling them "FBI/HRT" in the IF thread. "Commando heavy profile " on their webpage. Profile in their ad pic is....well , new to me. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Tigwelder1971:
Originally Posted By Honda4828:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By BNW:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Looks like an FBI barrel to me. They are SOCOM profile but without the M203 cuts. AU is kind of known for mislabeling Colt shit lol Its too fat before the gas block to be govt I'm wondering if maybe the FBI spec'd their own proprietary profile. Something is fuckey. AU is calling them "FBI/HRT" in the IF thread. "Commando heavy profile " on their webpage. Profile in their ad pic is....well , new to me. |
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I understand 11.5" HRT/FBI Barrel
I understand 11.5" Commando barrel as in a cut down A1 or A2 Barrel. |
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Originally Posted By WSAR15:
I understand 11.5" HRT/FBI Barrel I understand 11.5" Commando barrel as in a cut down A1 or A2 Barrel. View Quote |
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Well if it’s 11.5”, Colt, and heavier than a typical 10.3 or commando I’m using it for my F/A build. Sounds ideal and significantly cheaper than a 11.5” FBI HRT barrel.
My other option I’m looking at is chopping down a PSA FN CHF barrel... that would make a great and cheap stick to beat on with FA. Not as heavy or accurate as the Colt options I’m considering, but the FN CHF barrels are tough if nothing else. |
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Like this? https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-10-5-hammer-forged-ar15-upper.html
or two of these: https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-10-5-5-56-1-7-nitride-upper-w-o-bcg-or-ch-507020.html - https://palmettostatearmory.com/psa-10-5-5-56-nato-1-7-nitride-upper-without-bcg-or-charging-handle-5070201.html FYI the gas port hole is large (0.086"). |
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Originally Posted By Pneumagger:
Well if it’s 11.5”, Colt, and heavier than a typical 10.3 or commando I’m using it for my F/A build. Sounds ideal and significantly cheaper than a 11.5” FBI HRT barrel. My other option I’m looking at is chopping down a PSA FN CHF barrel... that would make a great and cheap stick to beat on with FA. Not as heavy or accurate as the Colt options I’m considering, but the FN CHF barrels are tough if nothing else. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By krdt: If you want inexpensive to burn out and replace, I'd go with an Andro/BA "Crane Spec" 10.3 before the PSA. By the time you buy the barrel and pay to have it chopped, you probably could've gotten a factory Colt. While FN barrels are certainly good enough, their gas port sizes are gross as pointed out (.080+). View Quote I’ve never had too, but I could even reduce effective gas port size |
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Originally Posted By Pneumagger:
I chop, shave, drill, pin and weld all my own barrels. I’ve never had too, but I could even reduce effective gas port size View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Pneumagger:
Originally Posted By krdt: If you want inexpensive to burn out and replace, I'd go with an Andro/BA "Crane Spec" 10.3 before the PSA. By the time you buy the barrel and pay to have it chopped, you probably could've gotten a factory Colt. While FN barrels are certainly good enough, their gas port sizes are gross as pointed out (.080+). I’ve never had too, but I could even reduce effective gas port size You could reduce the gas port size by drilling and tapping the FSB/LPB to accept an 8-32x1/8" stainless set screw and drilling the set screw with a #50 (.070) bit; but, seems like a lot of extra work when you can just buy the barrel ready to go for $130 or less ;p. If you have the ability to chop your own barrels, I'd just camp the EE for a cheap Colt SOCOM or pick up a 6920 take off govt profile at $150 or so. Even if it's a govt profile, at that price you can afford to shoot it out without much guilt. |
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Originally Posted By Pneumagger:
On the first page build sheet for a Block II clone under Pistol Grip and stock, it lists "& others"... how broad is this "others"? Because I'd like to use a Magpul SL-S and Magpul K2+ Grip. I've switched all my grips on all my other rifles to the K2+ overmold because, in my opinion, it's hands down the best full size grip on the market. Great angle, great storage, great tackiness, and killer looks. And the SL-S stock still has that B5/LMT SOPMOD profile look and feel but it locks up alot tighter. It's just a better more modern product AND at a better price too, IMO. Would either of these magpul items be too weird for a Block II CQBR? Also, is there a generally accepted front grip for the Block II? I'm a big fan of the BCM vertical Grip (short and Mod3) and would choose one of those if suitable. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By krdt: That changes things somewhat, but considering you can't - as far as I know - purchase the FN barrels separately from PSA, it's still going to be cheaper to go with the Andro barrel unless you want the PSA upper parts as well. You could reduce the gas port size by drilling and tapping the FSB/LPB to accept an 8-32x1/8" stainless set screw and drilling the set screw with a #50 (.070) bit; but, seems like a lot of extra work when you can just buy the barrel ready to go for $130 or less ;p. If you have the ability to chop your own barrels, I'd just camp the EE for a cheap Colt SOCOM or pick up a 6920 take off govt profile at $150 or so. Even if it's a govt profile, at that price you can afford to shoot it out without much guilt. View Quote Also, got paperwork submitted on the Lightning Link today... DAY 0! |
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After 2-3 years of thumbing through this stupid thread I pulled the trigger on an upper. I used to have a 14.5'' with a RIS II on it and I regret selling that upper very much. I had quad everything and then moved over to keymod for weight savings and have been displeased since.
So hurrah for getting back into the quad rail game and with arguably one of the best. I've got an EXPS 3-0 and a surefire light that's spec, I'm not getting foolish like some of you here but I'll dabble. Where's the broom handled Tango Down QD's at? I need to order one. |
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Originally Posted By FilthyCasual:
After 2-3 years of thumbing through this stupid thread I pulled the trigger on an upper. I used to have a 14.5'' with a RIS II on it and I regret selling that upper very much. I had quad everything and then moved over to keymod for weight savings and have been displeased since. So hurrah for getting back into the quad rail game and with arguably one of the best. I've got an EXPS 3-0 and a surefire light that's spec, I'm not getting foolish like some of you here but I'll dabble. Where's the broom handled Tango Down QD's at? I need to order one. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By julyAZ:
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So just to clarify, what are my options for sopmod stock? Used gen 1 LMT, or b5 non enhanced in tan or black? Also still need CQDs and KAC front.
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Specific request here. I am looking to make a Mod 0 in the future using all spec parts but the Vert grip, rail panels, and A2 grip are going the be KAC Taupe.
Does anyone know of a CAR stock or even a Waffle stock in a taupe color that matches KAC's taupe? Worst case I may just buy a cheapo one and hit it with aerovoe field drab. I did find this thread that mentions Cav Arm's "Dark Earth" (not coyote or flat dark earth) are a solid match to KAC Taupe. However it looks like they only offer their A2 grip here, in that color choice. Both their CAR stock here and their waffle stock here are not offered in "Dark Earth". Any other options out there before I break out the field drab rattle can? |
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Originally Posted By JSchell1309:
Specific request here. I am looking to make a Mod 0 in the future using all spec parts but the Vert grip, rail panels, and A2 grip are going the be KAC Taupe. Does anyone know of a CAR stock or even a Waffle stock in a taupe color that matches KAC's taupe? Worst case I may just buy a cheapo one and hit it with aerovoe field drab. I did find this thread that mentions Cav Arm's "Dark Earth" (not coyote or flat dark earth) are a solid match to KAC Taupe. However it looks like they only offer their A2 grip here, in that color choice. Both their CAR stock here and their waffle stock here are not offered in "Dark Earth". Any other options out there before I break out the field drab rattle can? View Quote Attached File CD |
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Originally Posted By delta_romeo_echo:
OK, enough about 11.5" barrels. We have a discussion in the FBI clone thread going there so check it out if interested. On with the pics... https://i.imgur.com/Mn6LdX9.jpg https://i.imgur.com/NwVBnZq.jpg So what did I build here? I've been calling it a Mk18 Mod1 but I know that doesn't really exist. Is it a 10.3" Block 2? I thought they were all 14.5" but looking at the USSOCOM stuff there were actually three different barrel lengths available. I know the B5 trigger guard, Ergo grip, Geissele Airborne CH/Maritime BC, Odin Works mag release and FDE receiver extension are not kosher for a true Block 2 but I wasn't going for a correct clone, just clone inspired. Upper and lower are Cerro Forge. DD CHF barrel, MK12 GB, RIS II, chrome BCG and QD mount. Geissele SSA, ACH, Super 42 and H2 buffer. KAC sights, ambi safety. LMT SOPMOD. Surefire 4P and M952V. Tango Down VG. EXPS, G3 and PEQ are next. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Rattle can it, clone correct. I did use a FN Mk17 A2 grip. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_6216_rx_jpg-908110.JPG CD View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Combat_Diver:
Originally Posted By JSchell1309:
Specific request here. I am looking to make a Mod 0 in the future using all spec parts but the Vert grip, rail panels, and A2 grip are going the be KAC Taupe. Does anyone know of a CAR stock or even a Waffle stock in a taupe color that matches KAC's taupe? Worst case I may just buy a cheapo one and hit it with aerovoe field drab. I did find this thread that mentions Cav Arm's "Dark Earth" (not coyote or flat dark earth) are a solid match to KAC Taupe. However it looks like they only offer their A2 grip here, in that color choice. Both their CAR stock here and their waffle stock here are not offered in "Dark Earth". Any other options out there before I break out the field drab rattle can? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/32677/IMG_6216_rx_jpg-908110.JPG CD west coast eod with su231 |
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Originally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts:
So just to clarify, what are my options for sopmod stock? Used gen 1 LMT, or b5 non enhanced in tan or black? Also still need CQDs and KAC front. View Quote |
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Daniel Defense just announced that they’ll be selling the RIS II rails by themselves and that they’re up for sale on their website
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Originally Posted By 762hunter2:
Daniel Defense just announced that they’ll be selling the RIS II rails by themselves and that they’re up for sale on their website https://danieldefense.com/mk18-risii-fde.html View Quote Clickable link... https://danieldefense.com/rails/ris-ii-rail.html Should I just stick with FDE, or were black ones ever used? |
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Originally Posted By Akin: Beat me to it! Clickable link... https://danieldefense.com/rails/ris-ii-rail.html Should I just stick with FDE, or were black ones ever used? View Quote $440 is a tough pill to swallow, wonder if these will ever go on sale. You can get a rail cheaper from Brownells with a little work. They currently have the stripped Mk18 upper in stock for $720 here. They regularly run 10% off coupons, bringing it down to $648. You can use Active Junky for an additional 4% off bringing it down to $622. You can typically sell the pinned DD barrel for ~$200 and the DD upper for ~$90 netting you a new rail for $332 when all said and done. Even without the Active Junky rebate you are lookng at around $360 out of pocket in the end. I mean just ask @krdt about the above method, his Active Junky rebates have to be acting like a 2nd paycheck by now |
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Originally Posted By JSchell1309:
Stick with FDE for a clone, black was never used. $440 is a tough pill to swallow, wonder if these will ever go on sale. You can get a rail cheaper from Brownells with a little work. They currently have the stripped Mk18 upper in stock for $720 here. They regularly run 10% off coupons, bringing it down to $648. You can use Active Junky for an additional 4% off bringing it down to $622. You can typically sell the pinned DD barrel for ~$200 and the DD upper for ~$90 netting you a new rail for $332 when all said and done. Even without the Active Junky rebate you are lookng at around $360 out of pocket in the end. I mean just ask @krdt about the above method, his Active Junky rebates have to be acting like a 2nd paycheck by now View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JSchell1309:
Originally Posted By Akin: Beat me to it! Clickable link... https://danieldefense.com/rails/ris-ii-rail.html Should I just stick with FDE, or were black ones ever used? $440 is a tough pill to swallow, wonder if these will ever go on sale. You can get a rail cheaper from Brownells with a little work. They currently have the stripped Mk18 upper in stock for $720 here. They regularly run 10% off coupons, bringing it down to $648. You can use Active Junky for an additional 4% off bringing it down to $622. You can typically sell the pinned DD barrel for ~$200 and the DD upper for ~$90 netting you a new rail for $332 when all said and done. Even without the Active Junky rebate you are lookng at around $360 out of pocket in the end. I mean just ask @krdt about the above method, his Active Junky rebates have to be acting like a 2nd paycheck by now Kinda funny seeing DD show up a day late to the party; if they wanted to cash in selling RIS IIs individually, they should have done it back when they were commanding $500+ regularly. Of course, this was discussed back when they did the one-day sale thing. Either way, they are the ones who forced the whole "buy the URG for the rail" model on us. I say oblige them; it's the better deal anyway. If you want to get really shifty, time your purchase to coincide with a 10% coupon and AJ doing 6-8%. |
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Originally Posted By krdt: Lol. Well, let's just say between my Brownells URG/ammo purchases and the Federal rebate ammo I got from PSA w/ 5% cash back, I'll be getting a pretty friendly payout in May :D. Kinda funny seeing DD show up a day late to the party; if they wanted to cash in selling RIS IIs individually, they should have done it back when they were commanding $500+ regularly. Of course, this was discussed back when they did the one-day sale thing. Either way, they are the ones who forced the whole "buy the URG for the rail" model on us. I say oblige them; it's the better deal anyway. If you want to get really shifty, time your purchase to coincide with a 10% coupon and AJ doing 6-8%. View Quote I keep telling myself I’m gonna get a cash back credit card for years and still haven’t |
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Originally Posted By JSchell1309:
Stick with FDE for a clone, black was never used. $440 is a tough pill to swallow, wonder if these will ever go on sale. You can get a rail cheaper from Brownells with a little work. They currently have the stripped Mk18 upper in stock for $720 here. They regularly run 10% off coupons, bringing it down to $648. You can use Active Junky for an additional 4% off bringing it down to $622. You can typically sell the pinned DD barrel for ~$200 and the DD upper for ~$90 netting you a new rail for $332 when all said and done. Even without the Active Junky rebate you are lookng at around $360 out of pocket in the end. I mean just ask @krdt about the above method, his Active Junky rebates have to be acting like a 2nd paycheck by now View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By JSchell1309:
Originally Posted By Akin: Beat me to it! Clickable link... https://danieldefense.com/rails/ris-ii-rail.html Should I just stick with FDE, or were black ones ever used? $440 is a tough pill to swallow, wonder if these will ever go on sale. You can get a rail cheaper from Brownells with a little work. They currently have the stripped Mk18 upper in stock for $720 here. They regularly run 10% off coupons, bringing it down to $648. You can use Active Junky for an additional 4% off bringing it down to $622. You can typically sell the pinned DD barrel for ~$200 and the DD upper for ~$90 netting you a new rail for $332 when all said and done. Even without the Active Junky rebate you are lookng at around $360 out of pocket in the end. I mean just ask @krdt about the above method, his Active Junky rebates have to be acting like a 2nd paycheck by now |
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Originally Posted By 762hunter2: Well black M4A1 RIS II’s were used but not mk18 if we want to get pedantic https://i.imgur.com/6VCmyXw.jpg View Quote |
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