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Posted: 3/3/2020 12:41:45 PM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DanWessonValor:
Thank you Thanos for the replies and for killing off half of the population. 
Now, based on looking at pictures in this thread, I see mostly SF RC2s here. Not sure what the other can is with the hole punch all over it. But damn it, it's about $1200 with the damn tax stamp!!!!!!!!!!!!  |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 12:55:58 PM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DanWessonValor:
I don't expect ANY cans to prevent some hearing damage when shooting a 556 with a SBR. That being said, I'd like to be in the safe(?) zone with my COMTAC III on. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DanWessonValor:
Originally Posted By Thanos7856:
The RC2 is an excellent can. They sound great, but no 5.56 can is going to be "hearing safe" especially on a 10in SBR. Basically, you can't really go wrong with an RC as long as you get one for a reasonable price - that's especially true if you shoot a lot and you want a can that will stand up to it. I'd think the same holds true for the RC2, but no direct experience on my part. |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 12:57:55 PM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-:
So my Scar 17 killed my ATPIAL C this weekend.... will I be kicked off the island if I replaced it with a MAWL C1+?  |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 12:59:27 PM EDT
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DanWessonValor:
Thank you Thanos for the replies and for killing off half of the population.
Now, based on looking at pictures in this thread, I see mostly SF RC2s here. Not sure what the other can is with the hole punch all over it. But damn it, it's about $1200 with the damn tax stamp!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 1:18:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -KentuckyWindage-]
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: You should be alright with mawl. Have had one on my 17 for right over 10k rounds no issues so far 
Yeah I guess the only IR laser / illuminators that are scar rated are the harden NAV units, LA5’s and mawl’s Iam guessing? |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 1:25:07 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-:
Jan 19 Killed everything deader than a door nail. I thought I had a battery issue, but batteries were good from multiple lots. I contacted L3 this morning to see about sending it in for repair. The minute one of mine craps out, I'll be making the switch to a Mawl as well. They really are visually stunning compared to a Peq. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2020 1:58:53 PM EDT
[#7]
Well, I just ordered a RC2. Here's to waiting for some 300 days until I receive the can.
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Posted: 3/3/2020 2:22:09 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-:
Yeah I guess the only IR laser / illuminators that are scar rated are the hardened NAV units (If real and not pieced together ones), |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2020 2:25:49 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-:
Yeah I guess the only IR laser / illuminators that are scar rated are the harden NAV units, LA5’s and mawl’s Iam guessing? |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 2:26:02 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DanWessonValor:
Well, I just ordered a RC2. Here's to waiting for some 300 days until I receive the can. |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 2:26:07 PM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 2:41:16 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNW: I don’t buy into the NAVSEA logo meaning anything is hardened. The Eotechs, LA5’s, WMX’s and SF cans with the NAVSEA logo don’t seem any different than ones without. |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 3:06:21 PM EDT
[#13]
What is the difference in endcaps for the MAWL? They offer 2 versions (EC1 and EC2) but I don’t see the difference.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2020 4:03:39 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By swOHmatt:
What is the difference in endcaps for the MAWL? They offer 2 versions (EC1 and EC2) but I don’t see the difference. EC1 
EC2 
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Posted: 3/3/2020 4:37:06 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DanWessonValor:
Well, I just ordered a RC2. Here's to waiting for some 300 days until I receive the can. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2020 5:01:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: It is true, only with the NAVSEA la5d's though. Other navsea marked units such as wmx/eotech etc are not hardened, they are just marked as such due to being a crane item. Per the manual of an LA5D the navsea marked ones are the only scar hardened ones. I have seen the innerds of a real navsea unit, the bottom half has a cast endoskeleton. |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 5:04:01 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNW:
Interesting thanks. I hate Scars so I never use one, but good to know. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNW:
Originally Posted By brodband8: It is true, only with the NAVSEA la5d's though. Other navsea marked units such as wmx/eotech etc are not hardened, they are just marked as such due to being a crane item. Per the manual of an LA5D the navsea marked ones are the only scar hardened ones. I have seen the innerds of a real navsea unit, the bottom half has a cast endoskeleton. 
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MO, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2020 5:45:25 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNW: I’ve seen PJ’s with MAWLS. Fuck SCAR’s. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 3/3/2020 9:22:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Thanos7856]
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DanWessonValor:
Thank you Thanos for the replies and for killing off half of the population.
Now, based on looking at pictures in this thread, I see mostly SF RC2s here. Not sure what the other can is with the hole punch all over it. But damn it, it's about $1200 with the damn tax stamp!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 11:05:27 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Crogers23:
I’ll get some better pics when I get a chance. USPS finally delivered my barrel yesterday, and so I got to finish my MK18 inspired build. This thing feels great in the hands. Perfect weight and balance. I’m considering SBRing, but if I don’t, I’ll probably get an SBPDW brace for it. Build list: Upper - *11.5” Remington Socom barrel cut to 10.3” w/ .070 gas port (version with barre markings under handguards) SureFire Socom 4 prong (got an amazing deal on it or I wouldn’t have bought it) *Colt keyhole C stamped upper *LBE gas tube *PRI Gas Buster charging handle *Microbest Chrome BCG *KAC RAS rail system *CQD rail sling mount *SureFire 600df (going to get something else for it since this came off another one of my rifles) *GripPod steel reinforced(have a KAC broom handle on the way for it) *Colt carry handle that I cut down *Eotech EXPS2-0 Lower - *Centurion Arms CM4 stripped lower *SOLGW LPK *SOLGW receiver extension *SOLGW H2 buffer *BCM buffer spring (had a spare) *SBA3 brace *CQD sling mount end plate Also have a Vickers NSN sling for it https://i.imgur.com/c5lTAQi.jpg |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 11:13:45 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tejas1836:
Um, that VFG you have there on that pistol. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tejas1836:
Originally Posted By Crogers23:
I’ll get some better pics when I get a chance. USPS finally delivered my barrel yesterday, and so I got to finish my MK18 inspired build. This thing feels great in the hands. Perfect weight and balance. I’m considering SBRing, but if I don’t, I’ll probably get an SBPDW brace for it. Build list: Upper - *11.5” Remington Socom barrel cut to 10.3” w/ .070 gas port (version with barre markings under handguards) SureFire Socom 4 prong (got an amazing deal on it or I wouldn’t have bought it) *Colt keyhole C stamped upper *LBE gas tube *PRI Gas Buster charging handle *Microbest Chrome BCG *KAC RAS rail system *CQD rail sling mount *SureFire 600df (going to get something else for it since this came off another one of my rifles) *GripPod steel reinforced(have a KAC broom handle on the way for it) *Colt carry handle that I cut down *Eotech EXPS2-0 Lower - *Centurion Arms CM4 stripped lower *SOLGW LPK *SOLGW receiver extension *SOLGW H2 buffer *BCM buffer spring (had a spare) *SBA3 brace *CQD sling mount end plate Also have a Vickers NSN sling for it https://i.imgur.com/c5lTAQi.jpg |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 11:20:38 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Over 26" OAL (10.3 barreled AR just squeaks past this length), a VFG on a "pistol" makes it a "firearm". |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 11:29:43 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tejas1836:
Oh good, that looks close, thanks! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tejas1836:
Originally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Over 26" OAL (10.3 barreled AR just squeaks past this length), a VFG on a "pistol" makes it a "firearm". |
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Posted: 3/3/2020 11:30:32 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-: I like SCARs
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Posted: 3/4/2020 12:38:18 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8:
That makes two of us Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8:
Originally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-: I like SCARs 
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MO, USA
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Posted: 3/4/2020 4:54:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By karmapolice: EC1 requires a tool to remove/replace the battery and if not torqued back to the same tightness could cause zerio shift (key word could). The EC2 is a tool less change and will not effect zero due to design. Get the EC2 EC1 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p720x720/67537195_661306354375018_7228164968275771392_o.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_sid=2d5d41&_nc_ohc=kYdw5f721gMAX8Q8pjf&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&_nc_tp=6&oh=b9c5ac224dcc5adf5f4f2a1d0bb4e3c0&oe=5E863E96 EC2 https://scontent-atl3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/p960x960/83199888_801519160353736_4874042072773951488_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_sid=9e2e56&_nc_ohc=vu0vjFMGDMgAX-R8f7D&_nc_ht=scontent-atl3-1.xx&_nc_tp=6&oh=bbe5de99c2c1d445d7977eb81c34a1c0&oe=5E9423D1 |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2020 12:45:10 AM EDT
[#27]
One of you fine gents wouldn't happen to have a spare Colt Trigger Guard would you?
I just claimed a Colt lower from the EE and it is lacking one. Thanks |
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AR, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2020 1:02:37 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 762hunter2]
[#28]
Since we’re talking MAWL’s
TACP with a MAWL on a BCM upper 
AFSOC 416 
Army testing 
And to keep it all on topic, the SEALQBR 
Side note. Seal MCX. Not saying that DeadAir is clone correct af but 
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Posted: 3/5/2020 8:28:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: brodband8]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 762hunter2:
Since we’re talking MAWL’s TACP with a MAWL on a BCM upper https://i.imgur.com/7V4yx7d.jpg AFSOC 416 https://i.imgur.com/ldI8Qh1.jpg Army testing https://i.imgur.com/ItJ0G37.jpg And to keep it all on topic, the SEALQBR https://i.imgur.com/zC7c1Lz.jpg Side note. Seal MCX. Not saying that DeadAir is clone correct af but https://i.imgur.com/UL60KPq.jpg 
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AR, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2020 8:49:34 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 762hunter2]
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: i thought we already went over that MCX likely not being a seal gun. Seals run dead air suppressors? Also no third pin. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2020 11:23:28 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 762hunter2:
Since we’re talking MAWL’s TACP with a MAWL on a BCM upper https://i.imgur.com/7V4yx7d.jpg AFSOC 416 https://i.imgur.com/ldI8Qh1.jpg Army testing https://i.imgur.com/ItJ0G37.jpg And to keep it all on topic, the SEALQBR https://i.imgur.com/zC7c1Lz.jpg Side note. Seal MCX. Not saying that DeadAir is clone correct af but https://i.imgur.com/UL60KPq.jpg |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2020 11:32:38 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By imjustaphone: Man TACPs get such nice gear |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2020 11:39:15 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNW: Lol that’s AF for you. I’ve seen AF gate guards in JPC’s. 
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Posted: 3/5/2020 12:23:37 PM EDT
[#34]
Elcan SpecterDRs on sale again from DVOR (they're GTG), $1629. I'm foing this time and moving my T2 over to my SP5.
https://www.dvor.com/elcan-specter-dual-role-1x-4x-optical-sight-cx5396-illuminated-crosshair-reticle-7-62mm-flat-dark-ea.html?promotion=18-deals-on-riflescopes-66-2020-02-27 Make sure you click on the 5.56 reticle and FDE options. |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 12:33:53 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: i thought we already went over that MCX likely not being a seal gun. Seals run dead air suppressors? Also no third pin. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2020 12:45:35 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyPilot12:
Elcan SpecterDRs on sale again from DVOR (they're GTG), $1629. I'm foing this time and moving my T2 over to my SP5. https://www.dvor.com/elcan-specter-dual-role-1x-4x-optical-sight-cx5396-illuminated-crosshair-reticle-7-62mm-flat-dark-ea.html?promotion=18-deals-on-riflescopes-66-2020-02-27 Make sure you click on the 5.56 reticle and FDE options. |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 1:06:38 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ForestRegion: If you're patient and don't mind buying used, you can find better deals in the EE. |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 1:13:54 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ECPrevatte: Some are. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2020 1:22:52 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyPilot12:
Somethings I'll buy used, optics isn't one of them unless it is a "no longer manufactured" item like MK4 3.5-10s. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyPilot12:
Originally Posted By ForestRegion: If you're patient and don't mind buying used, you can find better deals in the EE. Does Raytheon or Elcan offer any kind of warranty on the SpecterDRs? |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 1:49:15 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ForestRegion: I can respect that. Does Raytheon or Elcan offer any kind of warranty on the SpecterDRs? |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 4:45:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: -KentuckyWindage-]
[#41]
Reptillia mount
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Posted: 3/5/2020 4:53:07 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-:
Reptillia mount
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200304/52b3fc36c3531fdffad928289803eb4d.jpg |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 5:38:35 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -KentuckyWindage-:
Reptillia mount
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200304/52b3fc36c3531fdffad928289803eb4d.jpg Looks like a urgi in the background too. |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 5:55:40 PM EDT
[#44]
Looking for a KAC buttstock QD sling mount. Are these guys GTG? Only place I've found in stock with a quick search.
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AR, USA
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Posted: 3/5/2020 6:24:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 762hunter2]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AstraPat:
Looking for a KAC buttstock QD sling mount. Are these guys GTG? Only place I've found in stock with a quick search. https://www.ar15.com/forums/general/Larry-Knesek-Guns---WATCH-OUT-FOR-THIS-HORRIBLE-POS-BUSINESS/5-1989291/&page=2 They don’t seem too promising I would just get on the operationparts back-in-stock notification list https://www.operationparts.com/kac-knights-armament-m4-sliding-buttstock-sling-mount-adapter-push-button/ |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 8:15:31 PM EDT
[#46]
@Combat_Diver
Working on some tools for you boys! 
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Posted: 3/5/2020 8:45:16 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyPilot12:
I can't find any official written warranty info, some have said it's 5 years. There are lots of posts of people sending in old (10 years old+) sights to be fixed or replaced and getting them fixed at no cost. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ArmyPilot12:
Originally Posted By ForestRegion: I can respect that. Does Raytheon or Elcan offer any kind of warranty on the SpecterDRs? |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 9:37:27 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JonnyMoses:
I believe the official warranty is dependent on where you purchased the optic, some retailers have warranties for 3 years from date of purchase, some for 1 year. As far as repairs go I've dealt with this on numerous occasions especially with multiple SU-230 military variants I've had in my possession over the years. Raytheon/Elcan do not repair optics at all, commercial or military. The only repair I'm aware they will actually do is upgrading or replacing the illumination module and that is actually contracted out to an Armament Technology subcontractor Safeware. From what I was told these units are not meant to be reopened to ever be reworked on, so those under warranty, commercial or military, I believe are just replaced and the old units trashed. If someone wants to correct me, by all means please do, but this was the word directly from Raytheon Elcan when I wanted to see if they could replace an ocular lens on one of my units a few years back. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JonnyMoses:
Originally Posted By ArmyPilot12:
Originally Posted By ForestRegion: I can respect that. Does Raytheon or Elcan offer any kind of warranty on the SpecterDRs? |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 9:50:55 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JonnyMoses: I believe the official warranty is dependent on where you purchased the optic, some retailers have warranties for 3 years from date of purchase, some for 1 year. As far as repairs go I've dealt with this on numerous occasions especially with multiple SU-230 military variants I've had in my possession over the years. Raytheon/Elcan do not repair optics at all, commercial or military. The only repair I'm aware they will actually do is upgrading or replacing the illumination module and that is actually contracted out to an Armament Technology subcontractor Safeware. From what I was told these units are not meant to be reopened to ever be reworked on, so those under warranty, commercial or military, I believe are just replaced and the old units trashed. If someone wants to correct me, by all means please do, but this was the word directly from Raytheon Elcan when I wanted to see if they could replace an ocular lens on one of my units a few years back. Almost everyone that posted had nothing but great stuff to say about warranty service/replacement from Raytheon/Armament Tech. It basically sounded like a life time warranty from the people that have had to deal with them and some of the time frames they posted. |
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Posted: 3/5/2020 10:13:46 PM EDT
[#50]
Having a brain fart...I thought I remembered reading that the Elcan on the Mk18s used the 762 reticle/markings? Pretty sure I'm going to snag one of those from DVOR, but want to make sure I grab the right one.
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