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Originally Posted By Thunder79:
I would strongly suggest reading the last version of this thread ( the one that got shut down) in its entirety. It will save you a ton of money, help you avoid mistakes, and give you ideas.Obviously, read this entire thread as well! I did a registered lower and SOCOM RC on a trust, both form 4s, and e-filed them (currently unavailable for form 4). Depending on your budget these can take a while. I make good money (not as much as some of the guys in here) and after reading both MK18 threads, now closed, I made my first purchases (noted above) in Oct 2013. I'm waiting on a couple of items, G33, QR sticker, and teardrop FA, and then it will be done. Some items can be harder to find than others (taupe front sight, FDE DD MK18 rail, etc...), you should snatch those up as soon as you see them. This is by far the most fun, rewarding, and expensive project I have done. feel free to email me if you have questions or need help. I don't post very often; however, I check this thread about 5 times per week. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Thunder79:
Originally Posted By SpaceRanger:
Hello all! I'm looking into starting a clone and was wondering if you guys could share some advice and let me know what parts and pieces to start getting first and will be the hardest to get? Any help would be much appreciated. I would strongly suggest reading the last version of this thread ( the one that got shut down) in its entirety. It will save you a ton of money, help you avoid mistakes, and give you ideas.Obviously, read this entire thread as well! I did a registered lower and SOCOM RC on a trust, both form 4s, and e-filed them (currently unavailable for form 4). Depending on your budget these can take a while. I make good money (not as much as some of the guys in here) and after reading both MK18 threads, now closed, I made my first purchases (noted above) in Oct 2013. I'm waiting on a couple of items, G33, QR sticker, and teardrop FA, and then it will be done. Some items can be harder to find than others (taupe front sight, FDE DD MK18 rail, etc...), you should snatch those up as soon as you see them. This is by far the most fun, rewarding, and expensive project I have done. feel free to email me if you have questions or need help. I don't post very often; however, I check this thread about 5 times per week. Thanks for the info!! I'm going to take your advice on the reading, I think it will only help. I got lucky and got a Taupe KAC sight. Still thinking and rethinking the can though. KAC vs SF SOCOM???? |
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Originally Posted By SpaceRanger:
Thanks for the info!! I'm going to take your advice on the reading, I think it will only help. I got lucky and got a Taupe KAC sight. Still thinking and rethinking the can though. KAC vs SF SOCOM???? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SpaceRanger:
Originally Posted By Thunder79:
Originally Posted By SpaceRanger:
Hello all! I'm looking into starting a clone and was wondering if you guys could share some advice and let me know what parts and pieces to start getting first and will be the hardest to get? Any help would be much appreciated. I would strongly suggest reading the last version of this thread ( the one that got shut down) in its entirety. It will save you a ton of money, help you avoid mistakes, and give you ideas.Obviously, read this entire thread as well! I did a registered lower and SOCOM RC on a trust, both form 4s, and e-filed them (currently unavailable for form 4). Depending on your budget these can take a while. I make good money (not as much as some of the guys in here) and after reading both MK18 threads, now closed, I made my first purchases (noted above) in Oct 2013. I'm waiting on a couple of items, G33, QR sticker, and teardrop FA, and then it will be done. Some items can be harder to find than others (taupe front sight, FDE DD MK18 rail, etc...), you should snatch those up as soon as you see them. This is by far the most fun, rewarding, and expensive project I have done. feel free to email me if you have questions or need help. I don't post very often; however, I check this thread about 5 times per week. Thanks for the info!! I'm going to take your advice on the reading, I think it will only help. I got lucky and got a Taupe KAC sight. Still thinking and rethinking the can though. KAC vs SF SOCOM???? If you're using the KAC front sight, you'll want to go with the SOCOM, the corn cob rocks, but it belongs on the MK18! |
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What Flash hider is that? Looks a little differant then I'm used to. Unless its the angle? |
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Originally Posted By SpaceRanger:
Thunder79 What Flash hider is that? Looks a little differant then I'm used to. Unless its the angle? View Quote Its the ELUSIVE 4 prong Surefire flash hider mount. Dont even bother But thunder...lookin badass! ETA: maybe Im mistaken, might just be the 3 prong. But my other statement stands....VERY difficult to find, only a very few guys have one. |
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Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Its the ELUSIVE 4 prong Surefire flash hider mount. Dont even bother But thunder...lookin badass! ETA: maybe Im mistaken, might just be the 3 prong. But my other statement stands....VERY difficult to find, only a very few guys have one. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Originally Posted By SpaceRanger:
Thunder79 What Flash hider is that? Looks a little differant then I'm used to. Unless its the angle? Its the ELUSIVE 4 prong Surefire flash hider mount. Dont even bother But thunder...lookin badass! ETA: maybe Im mistaken, might just be the 3 prong. But my other statement stands....VERY difficult to find, only a very few guys have one. It's the 3 prong. I thought about hunting down the 4 prong issued one, but it didn't seem worth it. Kudos to the guys who have 'em. FWIW, DD claims the 3 prong performs better and it's my understanding that the military made the contract before that was figured out. However, that's third hand information and I haven't verified it myself. |
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sf 4p on gb should i get it? |
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What pistol grips are kosher?
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Originally Posted By m4socom:
Elusive? Yes. Impossible? Nope http://parahue.smugmug.com/photos/i-v2S7xbH/0/M/i-v2S7xbH-M.jpg I have a serious problem when it comes to these clones I have not compared the flash side by side with a 3 prong so I cannot comment on that. Although one thing that I find interesting is it seems that the SOCOM cans were designed specifically for the 4 prongs as the gas is directed almost perfectly to the holes on the blast baffle. http://parahue.smugmug.com/photos/i-QcQwxgw/0/M/i-QcQwxgw-M.jpg Could someone take a photo of a can that has been run with a 3 prong for comparison? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By m4socom:
Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Originally Posted By SpaceRanger:
Thunder79 What Flash hider is that? Looks a little differant then I'm used to. Unless its the angle? Its the ELUSIVE 4 prong Surefire flash hider mount. Dont even bother But thunder...lookin badass! ETA: maybe Im mistaken, might just be the 3 prong. But my other statement stands....VERY difficult to find, only a very few guys have one. Elusive? Yes. Impossible? Nope http://parahue.smugmug.com/photos/i-v2S7xbH/0/M/i-v2S7xbH-M.jpg I have a serious problem when it comes to these clones I have not compared the flash side by side with a 3 prong so I cannot comment on that. Although one thing that I find interesting is it seems that the SOCOM cans were designed specifically for the 4 prongs as the gas is directed almost perfectly to the holes on the blast baffle. http://parahue.smugmug.com/photos/i-QcQwxgw/0/M/i-QcQwxgw-M.jpg Could someone take a photo of a can that has been run with a 3 prong for comparison? It looks like you're right. How much diid you pay for those 4 prongers? Just curious, not trying to buy your unobtainium. |
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All I can say is SHAA WING -A- DING!! Awesome rigs!! |
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Originally Posted By SpaceRanger:
sf 4p on gb should i get it? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes That buy it now Originally Posted By m4socom:
Could someone take a photo of a can that has been run with a 3 prong for comparison? I've used mine on both the 3 and 4 prong and so far the wear is in the 4 hole pattern only. |
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what light is that? looks sweet!! |
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Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
It looks like you're right. How much diid you pay for those 4 prongers? Just curious, not trying to buy your unobtainium. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By m4socom:
Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Originally Posted By SpaceRanger:
Thunder79 What Flash hider is that? Looks a little differant then I'm used to. Unless its the angle? Its the ELUSIVE 4 prong Surefire flash hider mount. Dont even bother But thunder...lookin badass! ETA: maybe Im mistaken, might just be the 3 prong. But my other statement stands....VERY difficult to find, only a very few guys have one. Elusive? Yes. Impossible? Nope http://parahue.smugmug.com/photos/i-v2S7xbH/0/M/i-v2S7xbH-M.jpg I have a serious problem when it comes to these clones I have not compared the flash side by side with a 3 prong so I cannot comment on that. Although one thing that I find interesting is it seems that the SOCOM cans were designed specifically for the 4 prongs as the gas is directed almost perfectly to the holes on the blast baffle. http://parahue.smugmug.com/photos/i-QcQwxgw/0/M/i-QcQwxgw-M.jpg Could someone take a photo of a can that has been run with a 3 prong for comparison? It looks like you're right. How much diid you pay for those 4 prongers? Just curious, not trying to buy your unobtainium. Well.....two of them were reasonable, just a little more than a 3 prong, the third not so much. Figured when you're in this far, what's it matter! |
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wow did not think MIAD was ok
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Originally Posted By m4socom:
Well.....two of them were reasonable, just a little more than a 3 prong, the third not so much. Figured when you're in this far, what's it matter! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By m4socom:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By m4socom:
Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Originally Posted By SpaceRanger:
Thunder79 What Flash hider is that? Looks a little differant then I'm used to. Unless its the angle? Its the ELUSIVE 4 prong Surefire flash hider mount. Dont even bother But thunder...lookin badass! ETA: maybe Im mistaken, might just be the 3 prong. But my other statement stands....VERY difficult to find, only a very few guys have one. Elusive? Yes. Impossible? Nope http://parahue.smugmug.com/photos/i-v2S7xbH/0/M/i-v2S7xbH-M.jpg I have a serious problem when it comes to these clones I have not compared the flash side by side with a 3 prong so I cannot comment on that. Although one thing that I find interesting is it seems that the SOCOM cans were designed specifically for the 4 prongs as the gas is directed almost perfectly to the holes on the blast baffle. http://parahue.smugmug.com/photos/i-QcQwxgw/0/M/i-QcQwxgw-M.jpg Could someone take a photo of a can that has been run with a 3 prong for comparison? It looks like you're right. How much diid you pay for those 4 prongers? Just curious, not trying to buy your unobtainium. Well.....two of them were reasonable, just a little more than a 3 prong, the third not so much. Figured when you're in this far, what's it matter! I hear you on that. Clones are god damn addictive. The hunt for parts....its like a gambling addiction, except we actually get to keep something. Lol |
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looking at some of your rigs makes me feel like I will never be able to be in this club because some of you boys are light years ahead of where I can hope to be.
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Originally Posted By SpaceRanger:
looking at some of your rigs makes me feel like I will never be able to be in this club because some of you boys are light years ahead of where I can hope to be. View Quote If it makes you feel better I can't legally put a mk 18 upper on a rifle lower right now, I have to put it on a sig braced pistol lower and pretend it's a mk 18 until I get out of this shit stain of a state |
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That sucks! But at least you have the baddest pistols I've seen.
My bad MILSPEC556 I got confused |
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Do not, I repeat DO NOT hang out in the Plate Carrier and Battle Belt threads. I somehow got linked to one of them while checking out the gear in one of the CQBR pics on this thread. Next thing I know, I have level 4 plates en-route and a Xmas card from SKD thanking me for my last four orders (OK, I'm kidding about the SKD Xmas card).
Btw... Kerif Night Vision has the FDE Elcan bikini covers in stock. I had been looking for one for at least a month when I ran across their site. Fast shipping too... |
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Originally Posted By m4socom:
Elusive? Yes. Impossible? Nope http://parahue.smugmug.com/photos/i-v2S7xbH/0/M/i-v2S7xbH-M.jpg I have a serious problem when it comes to these clones I have not compared the flash side by side with a 3 prong so I cannot comment on that. Although one thing that I find interesting is it seems that the SOCOM cans were designed specifically for the 4 prongs as the gas is directed almost perfectly to the holes on the blast baffle. http://parahue.smugmug.com/photos/i-QcQwxgw/0/M/i-QcQwxgw-M.jpg Could someone take a photo of a can that has been run with a 3 prong for comparison? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By m4socom:
Originally Posted By bending_rodriguez:
Originally Posted By SpaceRanger:
Thunder79 What Flash hider is that? Looks a little differant then I'm used to. Unless its the angle? Its the ELUSIVE 4 prong Surefire flash hider mount. Dont even bother But thunder...lookin badass! ETA: maybe Im mistaken, might just be the 3 prong. But my other statement stands....VERY difficult to find, only a very few guys have one. Elusive? Yes. Impossible? Nope http://parahue.smugmug.com/photos/i-v2S7xbH/0/M/i-v2S7xbH-M.jpg I have a serious problem when it comes to these clones I have not compared the flash side by side with a 3 prong so I cannot comment on that. Although one thing that I find interesting is it seems that the SOCOM cans were designed specifically for the 4 prongs as the gas is directed almost perfectly to the holes on the blast baffle. http://parahue.smugmug.com/photos/i-QcQwxgw/0/M/i-QcQwxgw-M.jpg Could someone take a photo of a can that has been run with a 3 prong for comparison? That photo was harder to take than you would think. This has about 3k rounds through it. It might be in my head, but my can seems to be getting louder. |
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that is another level of awesomeness |
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Originally Posted By PFran42:
If you like mine, you should check out Asmig's build... and pay close attention to his LA-5. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PFran42:
Originally Posted By SpaceRanger:
PFran42 that is another level of awesomeness If you like mine, you should check out Asmig's build... and pay close attention to his LA-5. I was refering to everything as a whole in your pic but, I sure will check out anything you guys suggest. Thank you This clone stuff is going to be a problem for my wallet I can tell already |
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Originally Posted By asmig:
Thanks man A few reposts, no new stuff right now https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3858/15159797208_a016ee3784_h.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3873/15159851317_bc32c254ad_h.jpg https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2944/15412451771_be61e57780_h.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By asmig:
Originally Posted By PFran42:
If you like mine, you should check out Asmig's build... and pay close attention to his LA-5. Thanks man A few reposts, no new stuff right now https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3858/15159797208_a016ee3784_h.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3873/15159851317_bc32c254ad_h.jpg https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2944/15412451771_be61e57780_h.jpg Still my favorite rifle in here! I love the sling, where can I get one? |
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Originally Posted By Thunder79: Still my favorite rifle in here! I love the sling, where can I get one? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Thunder79: Originally Posted By asmig: Originally Posted By PFran42: If you like mine, you should check out Asmig's build... and pay close attention to his LA-5. Thanks man A few reposts, no new stuff right now https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3858/15159797208_a016ee3784_h.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3873/15159851317_bc32c254ad_h.jpg https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2944/15412451771_be61e57780_h.jpg Still my favorite rifle in here! I love the sling, where can I get one? Keep an eye on eBay. They pop up from time to time, but prepare to pay $300+. Another option is a company that purchases VTAC padded slings in FDE and then switches out the fabric on the padded portion to AOR1. I'll update this post with a link when I find it... EDIT: This might be it but it looks like it is sold out: http://www.semapogear.com/index.php/etc-11/aor1-devgru-sling.html |
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That back drop is perfect because that pic just gave me wood!! |
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Originally Posted By PFran42:
Keep an eye on eBay. They pop up from time to time, but prepare to pay $300+. Another option is a company that purchases VTAC padded slings in FDE and then switches out the fabric on the padded portion to AOR1. I'll update this post with a link when I find it... View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By PFran42:
Originally Posted By Thunder79:
Originally Posted By asmig:
Originally Posted By PFran42:
If you like mine, you should check out Asmig's build... and pay close attention to his LA-5. Thanks man A few reposts, no new stuff right now https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3858/15159797208_a016ee3784_h.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3873/15159851317_bc32c254ad_h.jpg https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2944/15412451771_be61e57780_h.jpg Still my favorite rifle in here! I love the sling, where can I get one? Keep an eye on eBay. They pop up from time to time, but prepare to pay $300+. Another option is a company that purchases VTAC padded slings in FDE and then switches out the fabric on the padded portion to AOR1. I'll update this post with a link when I find it... Thats cool you guys help each other out. My kind of crew! |
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Originally Posted By SpaceRanger:
Thats cool you guys help each other out. My kind of crew! View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SpaceRanger:
Originally Posted By PFran42:
Originally Posted By Thunder79:
Originally Posted By asmig:
Originally Posted By PFran42:
If you like mine, you should check out Asmig's build... and pay close attention to his LA-5. Thanks man A few reposts, no new stuff right now https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3858/15159797208_a016ee3784_h.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3873/15159851317_bc32c254ad_h.jpg https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2944/15412451771_be61e57780_h.jpg Still my favorite rifle in here! I love the sling, where can I get one? Keep an eye on eBay. They pop up from time to time, but prepare to pay $300+. Another option is a company that purchases VTAC padded slings in FDE and then switches out the fabric on the padded portion to AOR1. I'll update this post with a link when I find it... Thats cool you guys help each other out. My kind of crew! Thanks you guys for help with the sling, I saw one on Ebay last year and knew I should kick myself for not getting it! You guys rock! |
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I just looked again and this was all I could find:
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Originally Posted By asmig:
Thanks man A few reposts, no new stuff right now https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3858/15159797208_a016ee3784_h.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3873/15159851317_bc32c254ad_h.jpg https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2944/15412451771_be61e57780_h.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By asmig:
Originally Posted By PFran42:
If you like mine, you should check out Asmig's build... and pay close attention to his LA-5. Thanks man A few reposts, no new stuff right now https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3858/15159797208_a016ee3784_h.jpg https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3873/15159851317_bc32c254ad_h.jpg https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2944/15412451771_be61e57780_h.jpg very nice |
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Originally Posted By PFran42:
Do not, I repeat DO NOT hang out in the Plate Carrier and Battle Belt threads. I somehow got linked to one of them while checking out the gear in one of the CQBR pics on this thread. Next thing I know, I have level 4 plates en-route and a Xmas card from SKD thanking me for my last four orders (OK, I'm kidding about the SKD Xmas card). https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/psvDrrjJbGb7BsPBM6p8HEvjBX3II1NvlD8yOB95dezu=w1716-h1385-no Btw... Kerif Night Vision has the FDE Elcan bikini covers in stock. I had been looking for one for at least a month when I ran across their site. Fast shipping too... View Quote GAHTF clone shoot anyone? |
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So since slings came up...
What are the 'proper' slings for a M4A1 CQBR Block I or Mk 18 Mod 0? I've seen references in this thread, and the previous two, to at least CQD slings, VTAC MK1 slings, and MP5 slings. However, I haven't seen anything definitive. Is this because other than perhaps a CQD sling issued on a Mk 18, the slings are more typically a unit or individual choice? |
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Originally Posted By asmig: That buy it now I've used mine on both the 3 and 4 prong and so far the wear is in the 4 hole pattern only. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By asmig: Originally Posted By SpaceRanger: sf 4p on gb should i get it? That buy it now Originally Posted By m4socom: Could someone take a photo of a can that has been run with a 3 prong for comparison? I've used mine on both the 3 and 4 prong and so far the wear is in the 4 hole pattern only. |
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Originally Posted By OStateFlyer:
So since slings came up... What are the 'proper' slings for a M4A1 CQBR Block I or Mk 18 Mod 0? I've seen references in this thread, and the previous two, to at least CQD slings, VTAC MK1 slings, and MP5 slings. However, I haven't seen anything definitive. Is this because other than perhaps a CQD sling issued on a Mk 18, the slings are more typically a unit or individual choice? View Quote Someone could correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe CQD mounts with the sling being user/operator choice. Most popular seem to be VTAC and Vickers. |
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Stay Back! I'm working a deal for it. and it's at 400 umm are you confused or is there another one? |
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You think the clips or QD sling attachment method is a better set up? I see you are running the clips in your pic but thought I'd ask. |
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Originally Posted By PFran42:
Do not, I repeat DO NOT hang out in the Plate Carrier and Battle Belt threads. I somehow got linked to one of them while checking out the gear in one of the CQBR pics on this thread. Next thing I know, I have level 4 plates en-route and a Xmas card from SKD thanking me for my last four orders (OK, I'm kidding about the SKD Xmas card). https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/psvDrrjJbGb7BsPBM6p8HEvjBX3II1NvlD8yOB95dezu=w1716-h1385-no Btw... Kerif Night Vision has the FDE Elcan bikini covers in stock. I had been looking for one for at least a month when I ran across their site. Fast shipping too... View Quote Diggin everything in that pic. What brand IFAK is that? I just picked up the Army issued IFAK from Augee ( disclaimer for Augee, it was NOT his issued IFAK) Still need to pick up quick clot and a nasopharyngeal airway tho. |
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The SF 4 pong current bid on GB is $550, and still havt met reserve price yet. That's fucking crazy people willing to spend that kinda money on a flash hider, and even more crazy, the seller wants more than that.
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Originally Posted By AR15USA:
The SF 4 pong current bid on GB is $550, and still havt met reserve price yet. That's fucking crazy to spend that kinda money on a flash hidder View Quote No kiddin. Especially considering the socom dude on the last page payed just over 3 prong MSRP for 2 of his 4 prongs. And 3 prong MSRP is $129... |
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That's a tough sell for me.
Maybe if I couldn't have a suppressor I would consider I guess for the sake of clone but I keep my can on almost exclusively. |
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I'd be cautious in bidding on that one due to the sellers location.
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"Patriotism is supporting your country all the time, and your government when it deserves it." - Mark Twain
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That seller must be on this board and read this thread. He just closed the auction
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