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Ok for Mk18 Mod 0 optics. The Wilcox with Aimpoint, the Larue Lt150 with aimpoint. What are my other options to try and source as try to find some optics as I gather parts. That are considered clone correct.
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I'm pretty sure the M68 (Army Comp M2) is kosher for MK18 builds.
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Originally Posted By dmtsc: Ok for Mk18 Mod 0 optics. The Wilcox with Aimpoint, the Larue Lt150 with aimpoint. What are my other options to try and source as try to find some optics as I gather parts. That are considered clone correct. View Quote Eotech 553 and 552, TA01NSN ACOG w/ or w/o MRDS |
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I'm doing a clone of the 1000 series mk18 upper from crane, im going to get the engraving done on the side, did crane use colt cage code uppers on those, or were they all 'c' marked?
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I’ve only seen them with Colt C stamped Keyhole or FN Square forge uppers.
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Originally Posted By steven-223: I'm doing a clone of the 1000 series mk18 upper from crane, im going to get the engraving done on the side, did crane use colt cage code uppers on those, or were they all 'c' marked? View Quote Any USGI uppers in the system at the time. Most of those 1000 series were built before the Cage Code were a thing. Now I do have FN and Colt cage code uppers to rebuild but they lack the 1000 series. |
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Ok , thanks CD! Now off to find two new Uppers lol. As far as FN i've seen some what claimed surplus 1000 uppers that were FN floating around online does anyone know if the current FN uppers you can buy new from like Primary Arms have the correct markings the stock photos wasn't that great and I don't know much about FN uppers.
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Is 20208 the correct p/n for the mk18.0 knights FF ras? If not what is?
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20011
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Originally Posted By StealthGuy: 20011 View Quote Respectfully you sure on that, I had the 20208 saved in my phone but not sure where I saved it from. I googled the 20011 and it list as the carbine too long and may need a low pro gas block. The 20208 listed on operation parts says for mk18 ff ras. I know part descriptions can be wrong and I just want to make sure I grab the right one since they are so hard to come by. Thanks for the help. |
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Originally Posted By bimmertech87: Respectfully you sure on that, I had the 20208 saved in my phone but not sure where I saved it from. I googled the 20011 and it list as the carbine too long and may need a low pro gas block. The 20208 listed on operation parts says for mk18 ff ras. I know part descriptions can be wrong and I just want to make sure I grab the right one since they are so hard to come by. Thanks for the help. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bimmertech87: Originally Posted By StealthGuy: 20011 Respectfully you sure on that, I had the 20208 saved in my phone but not sure where I saved it from. I googled the 20011 and it list as the carbine too long and may need a low pro gas block. The 20208 listed on operation parts says for mk18 ff ras. I know part descriptions can be wrong and I just want to make sure I grab the right one since they are so hard to come by. Thanks for the help. 20208 is standard carbine length |
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WTB : KAC FF M4 RAS P/N 20208
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So for the mentally impaired I need a 20??? For a 18.0?
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Originally Posted By bimmertech87: So for the mentally impaired I need a 20??? For a 18.0? View Quote If your cloning a Mk18 Mod 0 and have your heart set on the FF RAS instead of the drop in RAS, the P/N - 20208 is the one you'll want because it's standard carbine length and won't have clearance issues with your FSB. |
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WTB : KAC FF M4 RAS P/N 20208
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Mk 18 Mod 0 with KAC RIS and RAS handguards also NT4 FHs. Inspected 5 all with M4A1 lowers. No Crane logos
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22’&23' Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21' |
Nice! Im assuming those were made later? Did any of the original Crane engraved Mod 0's come with RAS rails or just RIS
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Originally Posted By steven-223: Nice! Im assuming those were made later? Did any of the original Crane engraved Mod 0's come with RAS rails or just RIS View Quote Either as Mk18 came out after RAS was adopted I believe. RIS came out with Block I in 95' and only used for a few years before being replaced by the RAS. |
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Regarding the KAC 300m rear sight on a Block II - big knob or small knob?
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: BlockII could be either. Majority were KAC 600m or MaTech BUIS View Quote 600m meaning the 200-600m micro? I was going off of the chart in the first post that said: "MATECH, KAC 300m, & others". Obviously the 200-600m would fall under "others" but I figured it would have been mentioned specifically. |
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"We don't live in a third world country, we can oil our fucking rifle." -John Noveske quoting a friend
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Just curious if the PRI aimpoint mount was ever used on Mod0?
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Strike Eagle 1-6 or 1-8
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Originally Posted By Hpsnowburn: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/442973/20230312_213326_Original-2919139.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/442973/20230312_213335_Original-2919138.jpg This is a carbine length View Quote Thanks for sharing that’s a great looking upper, I have a 20208 on the way so we’ll see how it turns out. Unfortunately it’s not a vero though. My next question is using a tear drop f/a cringe and overplayed or kosher? |
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Originally Posted By bimmertech87: Thanks for sharing that’s a great looking upper, I have a 20208 on the way so we’ll see how it turns out. Unfortunately it’s not a vero though. My next question is using a tear drop f/a cringe and overplayed or kosher? View Quote Tear drop FA are acceptable. Not something you see everyday but once a year. Some were still on M16A1 lowers on first batch of Crane Mk18 Mod 0 and I've seen a few on URGs/Mk18 Mod 1s down range. Still have one in my spare parts bin in Iraq. |
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22’&23' Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21' |
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that strike eagle in larue mount is the mk18 ive been cloning this week and last. its been on my want to build list for about 4 or 5 years now and building 2 of them all at once first time out.
i ran into a problem this evening trying to mount a surefire blast warden on the end of one. came in mail today and ive never actually owned one until now. its extremely crooked when tightened down. anyone know why that might be? should i wait for the older 3 prong socom hider or return the warden maybe? heres some more info from the trouble shooting thread i just posted that may help identify the problem. begin copy paste... found one of the new surefire socom series brakes thats patterned off of the a2 brake called an sfa2. its listed as socom series which is required to mount the blast warden. upon taking both items out of package today and mounting in lathe to check if alligned i found that the colt mk18 barrel is good, the sfa2 is good and warden is a no go. ive tried to mount it straight and its a very sloppy fit and when tightened down sits so off center that you can see its crooked from afar off and it appears that rounds may impact the middle front hole on the blast warden. any advice here how to properly mount this? although the brake is spinning concentric in lathe it could be undersized on external dimensions so brake shaft size is .905 and inside shaft size of warden that it mates to is a much bigger .915 in case that helps. thanks. |
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I'm going to assume you have the notch lined up, correct? Is the collar screwed all the way open before installation?
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Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: I'm going to assume you have the notch lined up, correct? Is the collar screwed all the way open before installation? View Quote yes i lined the notch up and opened the ratchett mech wide open then closed back and forth alot. read the instructions in the box on warden but not the brake. my guess is maybe the size i got is completely off some how. im kinda into surefire lights collecting and have had a couple bad products lately so im not sure if quality of certain items they sell has gone way down or what the deal is. i think its maybe the fitment size on either the brake or warden is way off but i have little info to go on without asking you guys what it might be. |
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Originally Posted By AK47_COMMBLOC: yes i lined the notch up and opened the ratchett mech wide open then closed back and forth alot. read the instructions in the box on warden but not the brake. my guess is maybe the size i got is completely off some how. im kinda into surefire lights collecting and have had a couple bad products lately so im not sure if quality of certain items they sell has gone way down or what the deal is. i think its maybe the fitment size on either the brake or warden is way off but i have little info to go on without asking you guys what it might be. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By AK47_COMMBLOC: Originally Posted By SecretSquirell: I'm going to assume you have the notch lined up, correct? Is the collar screwed all the way open before installation? yes i lined the notch up and opened the ratchett mech wide open then closed back and forth alot. read the instructions in the box on warden but not the brake. my guess is maybe the size i got is completely off some how. im kinda into surefire lights collecting and have had a couple bad products lately so im not sure if quality of certain items they sell has gone way down or what the deal is. i think its maybe the fitment size on either the brake or warden is way off but i have little info to go on without asking you guys what it might be. How about a picture? Being worth 1000 words and all that might help someone nail the issue.... |
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WTB : KAC FF M4 RAS P/N 20208
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Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22’&23' Afghanistan: 09,10,11',14',17',18',19',20'&21' |
With the updates over the years, what is the current round count based service life of the MK 18?
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Originally Posted By Combat_Diver: Mk 18 Mod 0 with KAC RIS and RAS handguards also NT4 FHs. Inspected 5 all with M4A1 lowers. No Crane logos https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/B66C690E-4D66-4255-8F79-8B68107B6DAA_jpe-2916825.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/32677/74DDCA43-0DDA-4C5E-BE6E-1F9A441C4D8F_jpe-2916826.JPG View Quote CD, are these mod 0s still being used by the US mil currently? |
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Originally Posted By HipSh0T: How about a picture? Being worth 1000 words and all that might help someone nail the issue.... View Quote pics are not easy to load on this site not sure why so different. unless things have changed. the off center cant is substantial. which pics did you need? i was really hoping it was something obvious someone else has ran into. |
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Originally Posted By AK47_COMMBLOC: pics are not easy to load on this site not sure why so different. unless things have changed. the off center cant is substantial. which pics did you need? i was really hoping it was something obvious someone else has ran into. View Quote You're a Team Member. Pics should be easy to load. Profile>My Media>Upload Files. |
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i have some surplus surefire hiders marked fh556 -212a but they have knicks and burrs and paint on them. if i clean them up will those measure same as socom series and tell me if socom hider or warden is likely wrong size?
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No. Those won't interchange with the SOCOM series.
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn: Can anyone ID the optic? https://i.imgur.com/9NIwkwc.jpg Also, can anyone tell what riser on the xps? https://i.imgur.com/0miq2xO.jpg View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Eyekahn: Can anyone ID the optic? https://i.imgur.com/9NIwkwc.jpg Also, can anyone tell what riser on the xps? https://i.imgur.com/0miq2xO.jpg Edit- it's not the Larue lt110. I'm so used to seeing that one used that I assumed before zooming in. No idea what's under that optic. Originally Posted By JohnnyUtah427: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53121883217_c8537fa20d_b.jpg |
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Originally Posted By Eyekahn: Can anyone ID the optic? https://i.imgur.com/9NIwkwc.jpg Also, can anyone tell what riser on the xps? https://i.imgur.com/0miq2xO.jpg View Quote I think it’s the riser that comes with the SU-233 light kit. I think it’s just oriented opposite of this one: I think that rifle might belong to @lsujon |
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Originally Posted By AK47_COMMBLOC: pics are not easy to load on this site not sure why so different. unless things have changed. the off center cant is substantial. which pics did you need? i was really hoping it was something obvious someone else has ran into. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Subpar: I think it's the riser that comes with the SU-233 light kit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/FDF1DB30-5C6C-4F69-8351-70286C5A75FC-2929472.jpg I think it's just oriented opposite of this one: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/00A14D23-B71E-48DD-949B-9537C18237FD-2929473.jpg I think that rifle might belong to @lsujon View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Subpar: Originally Posted By Eyekahn: Can anyone ID the optic? https://i.imgur.com/9NIwkwc.jpg Also, can anyone tell what riser on the xps? https://i.imgur.com/0miq2xO.jpg I think it's the riser that comes with the SU-233 light kit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/FDF1DB30-5C6C-4F69-8351-70286C5A75FC-2929472.jpg I think it's just oriented opposite of this one: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/00A14D23-B71E-48DD-949B-9537C18237FD-2929473.jpg I think that rifle might belong to @lsujon |
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Originally Posted By Subpar: I think it's the riser that comes with the SU-233 light kit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/FDF1DB30-5C6C-4F69-8351-70286C5A75FC-2929472.jpg I think it's just oriented opposite of this one: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/00A14D23-B71E-48DD-949B-9537C18237FD-2929473.jpg I think that rifle might belong to @lsujon View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Subpar: Originally Posted By Eyekahn: Can anyone ID the optic? https://i.imgur.com/9NIwkwc.jpg Also, can anyone tell what riser on the xps? https://i.imgur.com/0miq2xO.jpg I think it's the riser that comes with the SU-233 light kit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/FDF1DB30-5C6C-4F69-8351-70286C5A75FC-2929472.jpg I think it's just oriented opposite of this one: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/00A14D23-B71E-48DD-949B-9537C18237FD-2929473.jpg I think that rifle might belong to @lsujon Attached File |
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Originally Posted By LsuJon: Yeah I miss that rifle. You have to be careful mounting the EXPS3-0 onto those as the QD latch can get the optic stuck on the rail section. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/IMG_1564_jpeg-2929522.JPG View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LsuJon: Originally Posted By Subpar: Originally Posted By Eyekahn: Can anyone ID the optic? https://i.imgur.com/9NIwkwc.jpg Also, can anyone tell what riser on the xps? https://i.imgur.com/0miq2xO.jpg I think it's the riser that comes with the SU-233 light kit. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/FDF1DB30-5C6C-4F69-8351-70286C5A75FC-2929472.jpg I think it's just oriented opposite of this one: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/147863/00A14D23-B71E-48DD-949B-9537C18237FD-2929473.jpg I think that rifle might belong to @lsujon https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/316069/IMG_1564_jpeg-2929522.JPG Good info. Thanks guys. Kinda dig that with the xps. Though a micro makes it much lighter. |
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