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Posted: 1/28/2018 12:49:09 PM EST
[Last Edit: krdt]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smitty_007:
I have a DD MK18 Upper from Brownell’s with an inspection date of 3.24.17. Anyone know when they started doing the .070 port size on these? Am I good to go? ETA: Top o' the page. Came across these the other day that I took while painting the NQR Mod 0 (NQR as in Not Quite Right). All the supplies necessary for a proper rattle can job: parts, paint and single malt scotch. 
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Posted: 1/28/2018 1:19:28 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: All of the "SOCOM" labeled DD Mk18 uppers should be .070, but you could confirm that with DD. Popping the block to measure is the only way to be 100% sure without shooting it. If it's the old .080+ port, you should be able to tell pretty quickly just by how it behaves when shooting. |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 2:59:22 PM EST
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I spoke to DD last month. They said all 10.3 produced
After June or July are .070. |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 3:47:56 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ShortyB:
I spoke to DD last month. They said all 10.3 produced After June or July are .070. |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 3:52:24 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smitty_007:
A little frustrated my September purchased Upper has an inspection date of March...anyway, back to regularly scheduled programming. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smitty_007:
Originally Posted By ShortyB:
I spoke to DD last month. They said all 10.3 produced After June or July are .070. The .082 can be tamed tho. Back in the day dudes in this thread were taming them with Govnah adjustable blocks (no longer made) and H3 buffers. So you still got options regardless |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 3:53:58 PM EST
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smitty_007:
A little frustrated my September purchased Upper has an inspection date of March...anyway, back to regularly scheduled programming. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smitty_007:
Originally Posted By ShortyB:
I spoke to DD last month. They said all 10.3 produced After June or July are .070. |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 4:10:37 PM EST
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You could always test with a few different buffers to get an idea. I had a 10.5" a few years ago with a massive gas port that ran with a H3 unsuppressed.
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Posted: 1/28/2018 4:15:05 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
All of the "SOCOM" labeled DD Mk18 uppers should be .070, but you could confirm that with DD. Popping the block to measure is the only way to be 100% sure without shooting it. If it's the old .080+ port, you should be able to tell pretty quickly just by how it behaves when shooting. ETA: Top o' the page. Came across these the other day that I took while painting the NQR Mod 0 (NQR as in Not Quite Right). All the supplies necessary for a proper rattle can job: parts, paint and single malt scotch. http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-01.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-02.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-04.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-08.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-11.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-14.jpg And a little more current: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/Mk18.All.The.Paint.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By smitty_007:
I have a DD MK18 Upper from Brownell’s with an inspection date of 3.24.17. Anyone know when they started doing the .070 port size on these? Am I good to go? ETA: Top o' the page. Came across these the other day that I took while painting the NQR Mod 0 (NQR as in Not Quite Right). All the supplies necessary for a proper rattle can job: parts, paint and single malt scotch. http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-01.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-02.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-04.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-08.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-11.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-14.jpg And a little more current: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/Mk18.All.The.Paint.jpg  
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Posted: 1/28/2018 4:15:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: My Mk18 SOCOM URG was purchased in late April 2017 with an inspection date of 4/20/17 and it's .070. I know a few others ordered them around the same period and they were .070 as well. I think all SOCOM URGs are .070. And good point, MILSPEC 
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Posted: 1/28/2018 4:26:10 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
That current paint looks awesome. But your block2 told me to tell you she wants that paint job too. Said she feels left out. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By smitty_007:
I have a DD MK18 Upper from Brownell’s with an inspection date of 3.24.17. Anyone know when they started doing the .070 port size on these? Am I good to go? ETA: Top o' the page. Came across these the other day that I took while painting the NQR Mod 0 (NQR as in Not Quite Right). All the supplies necessary for a proper rattle can job: parts, paint and single malt scotch. http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-01.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-02.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-04.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-08.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-11.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-14.jpg And a little more current: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/Mk18.All.The.Paint.jpg I did get her a new black SBM4 brace, though. Thing is awesome; it's like the SOPMOD of braces. Unfortunately the APF tube I ordered for it won't be here until tomorrow or Tuesday, so I haven't had a chance to shoot with it. With the talk going around about individual wait times going back up and forms disappearing into FBI background check limbo for months, it gave me a good excuse to get a more comfy brace until the F1 comes in. Plus, now I can run a TD stubby without worrying about whether 26" OAL is measured via brace or buffer tube; the APF tube should put me well over 26" OAL :D. |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 4:48:47 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
My CQBR is still calling you late at night behind my back? SHE PROMISED! Now definitely no paint for that two timer :\. I did get her a new black SBM4 brace, though. Thing is awesome; it's like the SOPMOD of braces. Unfortunately the APF tube I ordered for it won't be here until tomorrow or Tuesday, so I haven't had a chance to shoot with it. With the talk going around about individual wait times going back up and forms disappearing into FBI background check limbo for months, it gave me a good excuse to get a more comfy brace until the F1 comes in. Plus, now I can run a TD stubby without worrying about whether 26" OAL is measured via brace or buffer tube; the APF tube should put me well over 26" OAL :D. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By smitty_007:
I have a DD MK18 Upper from Brownell’s with an inspection date of 3.24.17. Anyone know when they started doing the .070 port size on these? Am I good to go? ETA: Top o' the page. Came across these the other day that I took while painting the NQR Mod 0 (NQR as in Not Quite Right). All the supplies necessary for a proper rattle can job: parts, paint and single malt scotch. http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-01.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-02.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-04.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-08.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-11.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-14.jpg And a little more current: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/Mk18.All.The.Paint.jpg I did get her a new black SBM4 brace, though. Thing is awesome; it's like the SOPMOD of braces. Unfortunately the APF tube I ordered for it won't be here until tomorrow or Tuesday, so I haven't had a chance to shoot with it. With the talk going around about individual wait times going back up and forms disappearing into FBI background check limbo for months, it gave me a good excuse to get a more comfy brace until the F1 comes in. Plus, now I can run a TD stubby without worrying about whether 26" OAL is measured via brace or buffer tube; the APF tube should put me well over 26" OAL :D. 
Speaking of SOPMOD of pistols, I have this cheek saddle I've been considering throwing on my shockwave. Literally the exact setup (Bottom gun shows it best) That my friend, is SOPMOD of pistols.  
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Posted: 1/28/2018 4:56:48 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
We only had 153 1 night stands......don't punish her too much.
Speaking of SOPMOD of pistols, I have this cheek saddle I've been considering throwing on my shockwave. Literally the exact setup (Bottom gun shows it best) That my friend, is SOPMOD of pistols. https://i.imgur.com/eCiFXmd.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By smitty_007:
I have a DD MK18 Upper from Brownell’s with an inspection date of 3.24.17. Anyone know when they started doing the .070 port size on these? Am I good to go? ETA: Top o' the page. Came across these the other day that I took while painting the NQR Mod 0 (NQR as in Not Quite Right). All the supplies necessary for a proper rattle can job: parts, paint and single malt scotch. http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-01.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-02.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-04.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-08.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-11.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-14.jpg And a little more current: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/Mk18.All.The.Paint.jpg I did get her a new black SBM4 brace, though. Thing is awesome; it's like the SOPMOD of braces. Unfortunately the APF tube I ordered for it won't be here until tomorrow or Tuesday, so I haven't had a chance to shoot with it. With the talk going around about individual wait times going back up and forms disappearing into FBI background check limbo for months, it gave me a good excuse to get a more comfy brace until the F1 comes in. Plus, now I can run a TD stubby without worrying about whether 26" OAL is measured via brace or buffer tube; the APF tube should put me well over 26" OAL :D.
Speaking of SOPMOD of pistols, I have this cheek saddle I've been considering throwing on my shockwave. Literally the exact setup (Bottom gun shows it best) That my friend, is SOPMOD of pistols. https://i.imgur.com/eCiFXmd.jpg |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 4:59:00 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Not half bad. I'd say do it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SecretSquirell:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By smitty_007:
I have a DD MK18 Upper from Brownell’s with an inspection date of 3.24.17. Anyone know when they started doing the .070 port size on these? Am I good to go? ETA: Top o' the page. Came across these the other day that I took while painting the NQR Mod 0 (NQR as in Not Quite Right). All the supplies necessary for a proper rattle can job: parts, paint and single malt scotch. http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-01.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-02.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-04.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-08.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-11.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-14.jpg And a little more current: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/Mk18.All.The.Paint.jpg I did get her a new black SBM4 brace, though. Thing is awesome; it's like the SOPMOD of braces. Unfortunately the APF tube I ordered for it won't be here until tomorrow or Tuesday, so I haven't had a chance to shoot with it. With the talk going around about individual wait times going back up and forms disappearing into FBI background check limbo for months, it gave me a good excuse to get a more comfy brace until the F1 comes in. Plus, now I can run a TD stubby without worrying about whether 26" OAL is measured via brace or buffer tube; the APF tube should put me well over 26" OAL :D.
Speaking of SOPMOD of pistols, I have this cheek saddle I've been considering throwing on my shockwave. Literally the exact setup (Bottom gun shows it best) That my friend, is SOPMOD of pistols. https://i.imgur.com/eCiFXmd.jpg
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Posted: 1/28/2018 5:09:19 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
We only had 153 1 night stands......don't punish her too much.
Speaking of SOPMOD of pistols, I have this cheek saddle I've been considering throwing on my shockwave. Literally the exact setup (Bottom gun shows it best) That my friend, is SOPMOD of pistols. https://i.imgur.com/eCiFXmd.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By smitty_007:
I have a DD MK18 Upper from Brownell’s with an inspection date of 3.24.17. Anyone know when they started doing the .070 port size on these? Am I good to go? ETA: Top o' the page. Came across these the other day that I took while painting the NQR Mod 0 (NQR as in Not Quite Right). All the supplies necessary for a proper rattle can job: parts, paint and single malt scotch. http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-01.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-02.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-04.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-08.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-11.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-14.jpg And a little more current: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/Mk18.All.The.Paint.jpg I did get her a new black SBM4 brace, though. Thing is awesome; it's like the SOPMOD of braces. Unfortunately the APF tube I ordered for it won't be here until tomorrow or Tuesday, so I haven't had a chance to shoot with it. With the talk going around about individual wait times going back up and forms disappearing into FBI background check limbo for months, it gave me a good excuse to get a more comfy brace until the F1 comes in. Plus, now I can run a TD stubby without worrying about whether 26" OAL is measured via brace or buffer tube; the APF tube should put me well over 26" OAL :D.
Speaking of SOPMOD of pistols, I have this cheek saddle I've been considering throwing on my shockwave. Literally the exact setup (Bottom gun shows it best) That my friend, is SOPMOD of pistols. https://i.imgur.com/eCiFXmd.jpg I was mostly referring to the comfort and cheek weld of the SBM4 rather than it remotely looking like a SOPMOD. Although, if you look at an SBM4 from the top, it does have a profile that is similar. I wasn't really expecting that and was pleasantly surprised how nice the cheek weld is. And now you're just spreading malicious rumors and sordid gossip about a good, upright and moral CQBR. I won't have it :\. |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 5:13:06 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: All of the "SOCOM" labeled DD Mk18 uppers should be .070, but you could confirm that with DD. Popping the block to measure is the only way to be 100% sure without shooting it. If it's the old .080+ port, you should be able to tell pretty quickly just by how it behaves when shooting. ETA: Top o' the page. Came across these the other day that I took while painting the NQR Mod 0 (NQR as in Not Quite Right). All the supplies necessary for a proper rattle can job: parts, paint and single malt scotch. http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-01.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-02.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-04.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-08.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-11.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-14.jpg And a little more current: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/Mk18.All.The.Paint.jpg 
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Posted: 1/28/2018 5:21:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
That's true, the saddle/Blade definitely accomplishes the look the best, but you're still stuck with the little thin Blade jamming into areas that it might "incidentally" touch. If that sucker catches you in the collarbone it can smart. It tends to slip out of position for me as well, especially with a PC. I'm also not sure if that falls into the realm of "modifying", but it admittedly does look pretty spiffy. I was mostly referring to the comfort and cheek weld of the SBM4 rather than it remotely looking like a SOPMOD. Although, if you look at an SBM4 from the top, it does have a profile that is similar. I wasn't really expecting that and was pleasantly surprised how nice the cheek weld is. And now you're just spreading malicious rumors and sordid gossip about a good, upright and moral CQBR. I won't have it :\. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Originally Posted By smitty_007:
I have a DD MK18 Upper from Brownell’s with an inspection date of 3.24.17. Anyone know when they started doing the .070 port size on these? Am I good to go? ETA: Top o' the page. Came across these the other day that I took while painting the NQR Mod 0 (NQR as in Not Quite Right). All the supplies necessary for a proper rattle can job: parts, paint and single malt scotch. http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-01.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-02.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-04.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-08.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-11.jpg http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/paint/mod0.paint-14.jpg And a little more current: http://wkd.site.nfoservers.com/CQBR/Mk18.All.The.Paint.jpg I did get her a new black SBM4 brace, though. Thing is awesome; it's like the SOPMOD of braces. Unfortunately the APF tube I ordered for it won't be here until tomorrow or Tuesday, so I haven't had a chance to shoot with it. With the talk going around about individual wait times going back up and forms disappearing into FBI background check limbo for months, it gave me a good excuse to get a more comfy brace until the F1 comes in. Plus, now I can run a TD stubby without worrying about whether 26" OAL is measured via brace or buffer tube; the APF tube should put me well over 26" OAL :D.
Speaking of SOPMOD of pistols, I have this cheek saddle I've been considering throwing on my shockwave. Literally the exact setup (Bottom gun shows it best) That my friend, is SOPMOD of pistols. https://i.imgur.com/eCiFXmd.jpg I was mostly referring to the comfort and cheek weld of the SBM4 rather than it remotely looking like a SOPMOD. Although, if you look at an SBM4 from the top, it does have a profile that is similar. I wasn't really expecting that and was pleasantly surprised how nice the cheek weld is. And now you're just spreading malicious rumors and sordid gossip about a good, upright and moral CQBR. I won't have it :\. At least she's not a cheap whore tho, she's pretty expensive. As for the braces, this is the CQBR thread. We are supposed to make our guns look pretty, they don't have to actually work good, remember?
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Posted: 1/28/2018 5:39:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JohnnySasaki20: Lookin' good. Lookin' sweet. https://media.giphy.com/media/3o85xp8I8f2cyWJ2gw/giphy.gif What tan is that? Might have to scoop some. It's Rustoleum Camo x2 Sand base and Earth Brown highlights. Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: I know you're upset I rammed my shockwave in your CQBR's cheeks piece, which is understandable. But to pretend she's not the dirty little slut that she is, is straight up asinine. Do you have any idea how many different loads have been shot in that thing? I mean come on lol. At least she's not a cheap whore tho, she's pretty expensive. As for the braces, this is the CQBR thread. We are supposed to make our guns look pretty, they don't have to actually work good, remember? Speaking of looking good, wonder what would happen if I tried to paint this SBM4 :\. I'm kinda tempted to find out. |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 6:33:16 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2:
I guess mine is more of a CQBR 1.5 but it looks awesome. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/272939/27021819_10105928452071480_258316071021587907_o-430100.JPG The plan is to use it to clone this rifle, just need to find a good deal on a FDE Elcan https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/272939/12357454-416920115184439-1121300769-n-132497-430098.JPG |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 7:21:32 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: My CQBR is still calling you late at night behind my back? SHE PROMISED! Now definitely no paint for that two timer :\. I did get her a new black SBM4 brace, though. Thing is awesome; it's like the SOPMOD of braces. Unfortunately the APF tube I ordered for it won't be here until tomorrow or Tuesday, so I haven't had a chance to shoot with it. With the talk going around about individual wait times going back up and forms disappearing into FBI background check limbo for months, it gave me a good excuse to get a more comfy brace until the F1 comes in. Plus, now I can run a TD stubby without worrying about whether 26" OAL is measured via brace or buffer tube; the APF tube should put me well over 26" OAL :D. And you are correct on the length...not even close to 26" to make you worry about being in any sort of gray area depending on who is operating the tape measure. |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 8:10:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6: If only the rest of the guys in this thread knew that the only clone correct paint is Skilcraft. LOL! |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 8:22:26 PM EST
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By IceAuger:
You will like the SBM4 and APF pistol tube combo. I went that route on my clone-ish build and it is a nice setup that fits tight. No wiggle or need for tape to prevent the brace from moving. Push it on and you're done. And you are correct on the length...not even close to 26" to make you worry about being in any sort of gray area depending on who is operating the tape measure. |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 8:31:58 PM EST
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By smitty_007: Got the Phase5 Hex-2 for my SBM4...now you got me wondering if I should have gone APF... |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 8:39:50 PM EST
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Originally Posted By IceAuger:
You will like the SBM4 and APF pistol tube combo. I went that route on my clone-ish build and it is a nice setup that fits tight. No wiggle or need for tape to prevent the brace from moving. Push it on and you're done. And you are correct on the length...not even close to 26" to make you worry about being in any sort of gray area depending on who is operating the tape measure. Originally Posted By eMc9001: Any idea on the main difference on the APF versus a KAK? Running KAK/SBM4 currently. |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 8:59:14 PM EST
[#24]
How do you differentiate the SOCOM labeled uppers? Mine has an inspection date of August but I don’t see SOCOM on the packaging. Hoping it’s a .70 port....
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Posted: 1/28/2018 9:36:12 PM EST
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NoahFN:
How do you differentiate the SOCOM labeled uppers? Mine has an inspection date of August but I don’t see SOCOM on the packaging. Hoping it’s a .70 port.... |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 9:50:29 PM EST
[Last Edit: JuanPing]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eMc9001: Any idea on the main difference on the APF versus a KAK? Running KAK/SBM4 currently. APF/SBM4 |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 10:00:13 PM EST
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Not sure if anyone even gives a shit but here's a weight comparison between the non rotational wmx, rotational, and clamp-on rotational.
Non rotational being the lightest. All have batteries  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 10:12:11 PM EST
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8:
Not sure if anyone even gives a shit but here's a weight comparison between the non rotational wmx, rotational, and clamp-on rotational. Non rotational being the lightest. All have batteries https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/27537216_1582028471845008_44437620_o-434608.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/27604629_1582047578509764_2061964887_o-434616.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/27479808_1582028505178338_15533033_o-434610.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/27479891_1582028511845004_272624726_o-434612.JPG Okay, that is undeniably awesome, lol. Can I have one? |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 10:16:21 PM EST
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: Just a humble weight comparison, folks. Not showing off or anything ;p. Okay, that is undeniably awesome, lol. Can I have one? What is boils down to is non-rotational is obviously the lightest, and would prob be what I chose to run since I don't even use the rotational bodies features, I just leave it closed. |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 10:30:17 PM EST
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver]
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8:
Not sure if anyone even gives a shit but here's a weight comparison between the non rotational wmx, rotational, and clamp-on rotational. Non rotational being the lightest. All have batteries https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/27537216_1582028471845008_44437620_o-434608.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/27604629_1582047578509764_2061964887_o-434616.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/27479808_1582028505178338_15533033_o-434610.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/27479891_1582028511845004_272624726_o-434612.JPG CD |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 10:45:26 PM EST
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 78Staff:
Obliterating Tan... best paint name ever lol Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 78Staff:
Originally Posted By KILLERB6: If only the rest of the guys in this thread knew that the only clone correct paint is Skilcraft. LOL!
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Posted: 1/28/2018 10:51:58 PM EST
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6:
Too bad they don't have a whole line of "Obliterating" colors. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KILLERB6:
Originally Posted By 78Staff:
Originally Posted By KILLERB6: If only the rest of the guys in this thread knew that the only clone correct paint is Skilcraft. LOL! |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 10:57:20 PM EST
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: We only had 153 1 night stands......don't punish her too much.
Speaking of SOPMOD of pistols, I have this cheek saddle I've been considering throwing on my shockwave. Literally the exact setup (Bottom gun shows it best) That my friend, is SOPMOD of pistols. https://i.imgur.com/eCiFXmd.jpg |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 10:59:34 PM EST
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8:
Not sure if anyone even gives a shit but here's a weight comparison between the non rotational wmx, rotational, and clamp-on rotational. Non rotational being the lightest. All have batteries https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/27537216_1582028471845008_44437620_o-434608.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/27604629_1582047578509764_2061964887_o-434616.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/27479808_1582028505178338_15533033_o-434610.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/27479891_1582028511845004_272624726_o-434612.JPG |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 10:59:49 PM EST
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Can you explain the bottom one to me? Pinned flash hider or longer than standard pistol tube? it's 26" or longer right? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: We only had 153 1 night stands......don't punish her too much.
Speaking of SOPMOD of pistols, I have this cheek saddle I've been considering throwing on my shockwave. Literally the exact setup (Bottom gun shows it best) That my friend, is SOPMOD of pistols. https://i.imgur.com/eCiFXmd.jpg
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Posted: 1/28/2018 11:20:49 PM EST
[Last Edit: brodband8]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: Humble brag or good reference info? Thanks for posting. Far from a humble brag, there's others *COUGH COUGH* JOHNNYSASAKI *COUGH* that would out do me in a heartbeat. |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 11:26:21 PM EST
[Last Edit: Roadblock]
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556: That dude posted that gun in here a few years back. We all told him his shit was illegal, he pretty much said "whatever" and bounced. Then he came back 1 more time and left again. He's probably reading this as we speak. I figured that his tube was not extended and was just a standard KAK setup. |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 11:28:41 PM EST
[Last Edit: krdt]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Can you explain the bottom one to me? Pinned flash hider or longer than standard pistol tube? it's 26" or longer right? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: We only had 153 1 night stands......don't punish her too much.
Speaking of SOPMOD of pistols, I have this cheek saddle I've been considering throwing on my shockwave. Literally the exact setup (Bottom gun shows it best) That my friend, is SOPMOD of pistols. https://i.imgur.com/eCiFXmd.jpg ETA: Granted, I'm reasonably sure if the original poster of that image did it several years ago, he certainly wasn't aware of any such potential interpretation as it's a relatively recent development. He would've been breaking the law as was generally understood at the time. Nonetheless, it looks like it could potentially be a legitimate opinion letter and braces may well count as part of OAL. It's unclear if it would be measured in "maximum possible extension" as with a stock, or simply in the configuration at the time of measurement. I would wager the latter. |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 11:32:12 PM EST
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Eeekkk. Yeah it looks JUST like my setup which uses a KAK tube and Shockwave. Flash hider off, Shockwave off which don't count towards OAL anyway I'm sitting at 24" 3/4... Personally I wanna stay under 26" OAL because in Michigan, this is a pistol so I can carry it loaded in the SUV if I so choose. Just makes it easier for transporting, Coyote hunting (not having to unload between field jumps), going into war zones like Detroit etc. I figured that was not extended. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556: That dude posted that gun in here a few years back. We all told him his shit was illegal, he pretty much said "whatever" and bounced. Then he came back 1 more time and left again. He's probably reading this as we speak. I figured that was not extended. I will give him this tho, that thing looks pretty fuckin cool regardless. |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 11:41:02 PM EST
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8:
Not sure if anyone even gives a shit but here's a weight comparison between the non rotational wmx, rotational, and clamp-on rotational. Non rotational being the lightest. All have batteries https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/27537216_1582028471845008_44437620_o-434608.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/27604629_1582047578509764_2061964887_o-434616.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/27479808_1582028505178338_15533033_o-434610.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/283538/27479891_1582028511845004_272624726_o-434612.JPG |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 11:49:47 PM EST
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt: There is a potentially legit ATF letter floating around in the form of an email screenshot that states you can measure OAL from the end of the brace to the end of the barrel (without a permanent muzzle device). It hasn't been confirmed through other sources, but if it turns out to be correct, that'd be perfectly legal. Lots of people are already utilizing that letter and including the brace in OAL to use a VFG. The basis for it is that ATF has already established you measure from the "extreme end" on rifles/SBRs, and those who trust the authenticity of the existing letter say it's just citing what is already established policy. Obviously rifles/SBRs aren't pistols, so I'm cautiously optimistic about it. Yeah I've heard that argument before but I'd be paranoid to run a vert grip. I run a B5 Gripstop because there is no question what it is. Here in Michigan, the MSP Firearms Division does NOT go by Federal for measurements. Yes they agree that a flash hider unless pinned and welded does NOT count towards OAL but they want the SHORTEST firing configuration to be taken into account, even if it can only fire one round. For example, an MK18 registered form 1 SBR with a standard buffer tube and Colt N1 Car stock would be 24 3/4 inches with the stock fully collapsed. They would consider this to be a pistol and do NOT care what the fully extended OAL is. You better register that shit as a pistol "or" have an out of state CPL/CCW also. Another one.... The Law Tactical folding buffer adapter. Lets say you have a 10.3" upper with one of those APF buffer tubes. It's clearly over 26" OAL, its a firearm, not a pistol... Toss a Law Tactical on it and now it folds. Folded can it fire at least one round? Yes... Here in Michigan, you would then after take your measurement folded which would be under 26" OAL so it's a pistol again but where is really gets confusing is that the Feds would still say firearm so you MIGHT be OK to put a vert grip on it as that is a Federal thing. Shit makes my brain hurt. |
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Posted: 1/28/2018 11:55:17 PM EST
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Yeah it was a long time ago but I think I recall him saying the flash hider was pinned, but nobody's gonna pin/weld a Colt 10.3. Especially when all he would have to do is remove the broom handle to make it legal. (Assuming that third pin isn't even a real third pin) dude was in CA and no F/A allowed there. So who knows what's going on with that thing. I will give him this tho, that thing looks pretty fuckin cool regardless. |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 12:01:40 AM EST
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
I suppose some people might but what a fucking waste. I know IF I pinned and welded a 10.3" with that setup I would expect people to give me shit so my second photo would be of the weld mark on flash hider just to shut people the fuck up so I didn't have to argue. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Yeah it was a long time ago but I think I recall him saying the flash hider was pinned, but nobody's gonna pin/weld a Colt 10.3. Especially when all he would have to do is remove the broom handle to make it legal. (Assuming that third pin isn't even a real third pin) dude was in CA and no F/A allowed there. So who knows what's going on with that thing. I will give him this tho, that thing looks pretty fuckin cool regardless. |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 12:06:46 AM EST
[Last Edit: krdt]
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
That sounds sketchy as fuck. Yeah I've heard that argument before but I'd be paranoid to run a vert grip. I run a B5 Gripstop because there is no question what it is. Here in Michigan, the MSP Firearms Division does NOT go by Federal for measurements. Yes they agree that a flash hider unless pinned and welded does NOT count towards OAL but they want the SHORTEST firing configuration to be taken into account, even if it can only fire one round. For example, an MK18 registered form 1 SBR with a standard buffer tube and Colt N1 Car stock would be 24 3/4 inches with the stock fully collapsed. They would consider this to be a pistol and do NOT care what the fully extended OAL is. You better register that shit as a pistol "or" have an out of state CPL/CCW also. Another one.... The Law Tactical folding buffer adapter. Lets say you have a 10.3" upper with one of those APF buffer tubes. It's clearly over 26" OAL, its a firearm, not a pistol... Toss a Law Tactical on it and now it folds. Folded can it fire at least one round? Yes... Here in Michigan, you would then after take your measurement folded which would be under 26" OAL so it's a pistol again but where is really gets confusing is that the Feds would still say firearm so you MIGHT be OK to put a vert grip on it as that is a Federal thing. Shit makes my brain hurt. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
Originally Posted By krdt: There is a potentially legit ATF letter floating around in the form of an email screenshot that states you can measure OAL from the end of the brace to the end of the barrel (without a permanent muzzle device). It hasn't been confirmed through other sources, but if it turns out to be correct, that'd be perfectly legal. Lots of people are already utilizing that letter and including the brace in OAL to use a VFG. The basis for it is that ATF has already established you measure from the "extreme end" on rifles/SBRs, and those who trust the authenticity of the existing letter say it's just citing what is already established policy. Obviously rifles/SBRs aren't pistols, so I'm cautiously optimistic about it. Yeah I've heard that argument before but I'd be paranoid to run a vert grip. I run a B5 Gripstop because there is no question what it is. Here in Michigan, the MSP Firearms Division does NOT go by Federal for measurements. Yes they agree that a flash hider unless pinned and welded does NOT count towards OAL but they want the SHORTEST firing configuration to be taken into account, even if it can only fire one round. For example, an MK18 registered form 1 SBR with a standard buffer tube and Colt N1 Car stock would be 24 3/4 inches with the stock fully collapsed. They would consider this to be a pistol and do NOT care what the fully extended OAL is. You better register that shit as a pistol "or" have an out of state CPL/CCW also. Another one.... The Law Tactical folding buffer adapter. Lets say you have a 10.3" upper with one of those APF buffer tubes. It's clearly over 26" OAL, its a firearm, not a pistol... Toss a Law Tactical on it and now it folds. Folded can it fire at least one round? Yes... Here in Michigan, you would then after take your measurement folded which would be under 26" OAL so it's a pistol again but where is really gets confusing is that the Feds would still say firearm so you MIGHT be OK to put a vert grip on it as that is a Federal thing. Shit makes my brain hurt. ETA: That being said, I'll be rolling with a TD Stubby as soon as Fedex hurries the fuck up and delivers my APF tube. Still waiting on my SF tan tail cap and SR07, too. Stupid slow mail :\. |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 1:32:09 AM EST
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By brodband8: It's whatever you want it to be lol. Far from a humble brag, there's others *COUGH COUGH* JOHNNYSASAKI *COUGH* that would out do me in a heartbeat. |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 2:01:36 AM EST
[Last Edit: brodband8]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnySasaki20: You got more shit than me, bitch. Lol 
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Posted: 1/29/2018 7:18:18 AM EST
[#47]
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Posted: 1/29/2018 9:23:01 AM EST
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Roadblock:
That sounds sketchy as fuck. Yeah I've heard that argument before but I'd be paranoid to run a vert grip. I run a B5 Gripstop because there is no question what it is. Here in Michigan, the MSP Firearms Division does NOT go by Federal for measurements. Yes they agree that a flash hider unless pinned and welded does NOT count towards OAL but they want the SHORTEST firing configuration to be taken into account, even if it can only fire one round. For example, an MK18 registered form 1 SBR with a standard buffer tube and Colt N1 Car stock would be 24 3/4 inches with the stock fully collapsed. They would consider this to be a pistol and do NOT care what the fully extended OAL is. You better register that shit as a pistol "or" have an out of state CPL/CCW also. Another one.... The Law Tactical folding buffer adapter. Lets say you have a 10.3" upper with one of those APF buffer tubes. It's clearly over 26" OAL, its a firearm, not a pistol... Toss a Law Tactical on it and now it folds. Folded can it fire at least one round? Yes... Here in Michigan, you would then after take your measurement folded which would be under 26" OAL so it's a pistol again but where is really gets confusing is that the Feds would still say firearm so you MIGHT be OK to put a vert grip on it as that is a Federal thing. Shit makes my brain hurt. |
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Posted: 1/29/2018 11:04:53 AM EST
[#49]
FYI - I just spoke to Daniel Defense and the guy there said, as far as he knows, all of the Socom barrels have a .071 gas port no matter when manufactured.
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Posted: 1/29/2018 11:22:22 AM EST
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MILSPEC556:
Im with you there man. Waste for sure. Which is why I also stick with the B5 grip stop and the AFG. Both of those give me a solid purchase on a Mk18 RIS II anyways so there's no need to bother with a 10.3 pin/weld. I just stick with vert grips on longer/heavier guns. |
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