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Posted: 3/14/2003 5:44:18 AM EDT
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What is the case head-stamp on this ammo? If it's DNL, it was made in the 1990s by the same parastatal company (Denel - formerly Armscor) that made the battle-pack ammo for the South African Defence Force in the 1980s (which have 85, 86, 87 etc. head-stamps). I'm using DNL head-stamp 5,56x45mm and it works great. (I'm not getting it so cheaply though - have to pay $6.75 for a box of 30 here in South Africa!) Cheers from Cape Town! |
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That stuff has been floating around for at least 5 years. Cole Distributing has had it for years, J&G Sales more recently, but they were out last time I checked. It's Denel, made in the late 90's, low flash, but not as hot as M193. It was popular here a few years ago before the battlepacks were more widely available. I've seen it sold as .223 and 5.56. I'm not sure which it is. I've used it in my Colt & DPMS and it's never failed. |
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As people have mentioned, this ammo should be much newer production (98 or later), and should be Boxer-primed (reloadable), but will be 150-200 fps slower than M193 specs. Some of the ammo also had excess sealant in the extractor groove, which bothered some folks visually, but IIRC, never caused a functional problem. -Troy |
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Quoted: Anyone had any experience with this stuff? South African M-193 5.56 made by Denel Group I have a chance to buy 2,880 rounds for $210 delivered. Yes that is less than .08 cents per round. I went to Cole's and searched "223"...... OK.....So what is the problem? The website clearly shows 990 rounds of this stuff for $149 plus shipping. Where did you ever get $210 for 2880 rounds???? Maybe someone needs to get some thick glasses.... |
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I just ordered 1000 rounds from AIM surplus. It's the PMP in the box with the gazelle on it. They have it listed today for $72 for 500 rounds, so about $145/ 1000. Hopefully it will be good.. I've had some of the SA surplus in the battle pack, that was excellent. Sure the PMP might be a little slower, but for my intended use (tactical matches, ranges less than 50, mostly less than 25 yards) I'll get a report up when I fire some! |
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Quoted: Quoted: Anyone had any experience with this stuff? South African M-193 5.56 made by Denel Group I have a chance to buy 2,880 rounds for $210 delivered. Yes that is less than .08 cents per round. I went to Cole's and searched "223"...... OK.....So what is the problem? The website clearly shows 990 rounds of this stuff for $149 plus shipping. Where did you ever get $210 for 2880 rounds???? Maybe someone needs to get some thick glasses.... Because they changed it after I complained. The $210 is the plus shipping. Think about it before you make smart A$$ comments. |
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