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Posted: 11/30/2014 11:56:33 PM EDT
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Is there mounts that hold zero so you can switch between scopes?
I reload my own ammo. I have cheap stuff to shoot and hunting ammo. Both hit in different spots. Is there a mounting system that will help me with this ? |
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Is there mounts that hold zero so you can switch between scopes? I reload my own ammo. I have cheap stuff to shoot and hunting ammo. Both hit in different spots. Is there a mounting system that will help me with this ? Yes I'm running an American Defense quick release mount but there are others out there too Mine has always returned to zero. |
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Yes I'm running an American Defense quick release mount but there are others out there too Mine has always returned to zero. Quoted:
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Is there mounts that hold zero so you can switch between scopes? I reload my own ammo. I have cheap stuff to shoot and hunting ammo. Both hit in different spots. Is there a mounting system that will help me with this ? Yes I'm running an American Defense quick release mount but there are others out there too Mine has always returned to zero. Can you run more than one scope ? |
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Is there mounts that hold zero so you can switch between scopes? I reload my own ammo. I have cheap stuff to shoot and hunting ammo. Both hit in different spots. Is there a mounting system that will help me with this ? Yes I'm running an American Defense quick release mount but there are others out there too Mine has always returned to zero. Can you run more than one scope ? The mounts that I have seen all attach to the scope so, if you want to swap between scopes and maintain zero, you'll probably need 2 quick detach mounts, one for each scope. |
| LaRue, ADM and Bobro are the most well known true return to zero AR mounts. I have the first two. Yes, you mount and zero each optic separately. Each scope has its own exclusive mount. I have a scope in a LaRue SPR QD mount and a red dot in an ADM QD. I regularly swap between them and each returns to less than one MOA of its previous POI. You do have to use the same rail slot number for each mount, as rail slot dimensions can vary slightly and rails may not be exactly parallel with your barrel. Each scope will have its own slot location for your eye relief. It might be a different slot on the other scope, but always return scope "A" to the same slot, and scope "B" to its own slot. I scratch the slot number on the bottom of each mount. |
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LaRue, ADM and Bobro are the most well known true return to zero AR mounts. I have the first two. Yes, you mount and zero each optic separately. Each scope has its own exclusive mount. I have a scope in a LaRue SPR QD mount and a red dot in an ADM QD. I regularly swap between them and each returns to less than one MOA of its previous POI. You do have to use the same rail slot number for each mount, as rail slot dimensions can vary slightly and rails may not be exactly parallel with your barrel. Each scope will have its own slot location for your eye relief. It might be a different slot on the other scope, but always return scope "A" to the same slot, and scope "B" to its own slot. I scratch the slot number on the bottom of each mount. ok i was looking at some of them last night, i iguess you get what you pay for .... |
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Quoted: yes that is right, well that is what i am wainting to do Quoted: Quoted: So you want to use two scopes because you use two rounds with different poi? yes that is right, well that is what i am wainting to do Bobro and Larue are what I would recommend. ADM will work, but tests have shown it to not be as precise. If 1MOA shift is ok, it won't make a difference. |
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LaRue, ADM and Bobro are the most well known true return to zero AR mounts. I have the first two. Yes, you mount and zero each optic separately. Each scope has its own exclusive mount. I have a scope in a LaRue SPR QD mount and a red dot in an ADM QD. I regularly swap between them and each returns to less than one MOA of its previous POI. You do have to use the same rail slot number for each mount, as rail slot dimensions can vary slightly and rails may not be exactly parallel with your barrel. Each scope will have its own slot location for your eye relief. It might be a different slot on the other scope, but always return scope "A" to the same slot, and scope "B" to its own slot. I scratch the slot number on the bottom of each mount. ok i was looking at some of them last night, i iguess you get what you pay for .... Yeah, I know they are steep. But the precision required for true return to zero is why they cost so much. The Burris PEPR has mixed reviews here. I don't own one, and hate to just regurgitate what others have said. I think you will find that some seem to be satisfied with the return to zero capability, while others are not. I suspect (speculation) that those who only swap out optics infrequently, are having better results with it than those who regularly move back and forth between optics. If cost is a factor, ADM is usually a bit less than LaRue and LaRue is usually just under Bobro. All work will, For relatively heavy optics, I prefer LaRue, due to the super rugged construction. For lighter optics, the single lever ADM works well for me. When you think that evey a few thousandths of an inch change in how the optic mounts to the rifle can translate into many inches in point of impact shift down range, the precision from the higher cost mounts begins to make sense, especially if removal and swapping of optics is going to be a regular part of how you use the rifle. |
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Personally I would zero with one and record the change needed to reach zero on the second. Print up dope cards with the change factored in. Bobro and Larue are what I would recommend. ADM will work, but tests have shown it to not be as precise. If 1MOA shift is ok, it won't make a difference. Quoted:
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So you want to use two scopes because you use two rounds with different poi? yes that is right, well that is what i am wainting to do Bobro and Larue are what I would recommend. ADM will work, but tests have shown it to not be as precise. If 1MOA shift is ok, it won't make a difference. I think this suggestion works only when moving one return to zero scope between two different rifles. It would not work for two different scopes in separate mounts being swapped back and forth on the same rifle. |
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I think this suggestion works only when moving one return to zero scope between two different rifles. It would not work for two different scopes in separate mounts being swapped back and forth on the same rifle. Quoted:
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So you want to use two scopes because you use two rounds with different poi? yes that is right, well that is what i am wainting to do Bobro and Larue are what I would recommend. ADM will work, but tests have shown it to not be as precise. If 1MOA shift is ok, it won't make a difference. I think this suggestion works only when moving one return to zero scope between two different rifles. It would not work for two different scopes in separate mounts being swapped back and forth on the same rifle. Why could i not have 2 scopes in 2 mounts and swap them, on the same rifle ? |
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Yes I'm running an American Defense quick release mount but there are others out there too Mine has always returned to zero. Quoted:
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Is there mounts that hold zero so you can switch between scopes? I reload my own ammo. I have cheap stuff to shoot and hunting ammo. Both hit in different spots. Is there a mounting system that will help me with this ? Yes I'm running an American Defense quick release mount but there are others out there too Mine has always returned to zero. When ya'll say rtz, are we talking 100% to zero or close enough? |
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Quoted: I think this suggestion works only when moving one return to zero scope between two different rifles. It would not work for two different scopes in separate mounts being swapped back and forth on the same rifle. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: So you want to use two scopes because you use two rounds with different poi? yes that is right, well that is what i am wainting to do Bobro and Larue are what I would recommend. ADM will work, but tests have shown it to not be as precise. If 1MOA shift is ok, it won't make a difference. I think this suggestion works only when moving one return to zero scope between two different rifles. It would not work for two different scopes in separate mounts being swapped back and forth on the same rifle. Your first load would always be what your scope is zeroed too, but you would have dope for the second load recorded as well so you could swap loads and dial in the correct windage and elevation to make good hits. |
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Quoted: Why could i not have 2 scopes in 2 mounts and swap them, on the same rifle ? Quoted: SNIP Why could i not have 2 scopes in 2 mounts and swap them, on the same rifle ? |
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I think you misunderstood. My primary suggestion was to use one scope, zeroed to the first load, print a corresponding dope card. Then shoot the second load and record changes that need to be made to reach zero. Print a corresponding dope card for the second load. Your first load would always be what your scope is zeroed too, but you would have dope for the second load recorded as well so you could swap loads and dial in the correct windage and elevation to make good hits. Quoted:
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So you want to use two scopes because you use two rounds with different poi? yes that is right, well that is what i am wainting to do Bobro and Larue are what I would recommend. ADM will work, but tests have shown it to not be as precise. If 1MOA shift is ok, it won't make a difference. I think this suggestion works only when moving one return to zero scope between two different rifles. It would not work for two different scopes in separate mounts being swapped back and forth on the same rifle. Your first load would always be what your scope is zeroed too, but you would have dope for the second load recorded as well so you could swap loads and dial in the correct windage and elevation to make good hits. Yes, you can do this. I've done it with a colliminator inserted in the barrel of bolt action guns to verify the adjustment movements. The problem is that the clicks on the turrets often are not consistently what the manufacturer says they are, and do not faithfully track back to where they came from after making adjustments. For different loads on the same rifle and same scope, this will work if the adjustments are accurate and repeatable. If not, you need something like a colliminator for AR height optics to look at the grid squares and replicate the movement each time you change. If he has a high quality scope with accurate turrets and is only rezeroing to change loads, yes. But, maybe I musunderstood OP. I thought he needed different scopes with different properties, like totally different magnification ranges. On re-reading the OP, then yes, if it is only a load change, and if the turrets track faithfully, he can use your method. It's worth a try to see if it tracks well enough. Many of my scopes do not track that well. A small number, surprisingly small number, track well enough and they tend to be pretty pricey. |
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