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10/21/2014 12:45:36 PM EDT
I've let my Predatar get way too dirty, I broke it down last night and cleaned it with some clp but I dont have an AR specific cleaning kit so I was thinking about buying an OTIS kit....thoughts?

Second, carbeurator cleaner ok or not ok to use?
10/21/2014 3:26:49 PM EDT
[#1]
You are invested enough to own an Larue rifle but not enough to buy a $10 cleaning kit?
10/21/2014 5:35:54 PM EDT
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Very non technical post removed - Andrewphillipf
10/21/2014 5:55:15 PM EDT
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You are invested enough to own an Larue rifle but not enough to buy a $10 cleaning kit?
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I haven't clean my larue in about 1k rounds suppressed. Just wipe the bolt off.
10/21/2014 6:09:43 PM EDT
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Screw the Otis and buy a real one piece rod....
10/21/2014 7:19:30 PM EDT
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Ill explain further, I have cleaning supplies.  I have different solvents but have generally relied on CLP as both my oil and lubricant.  I have many different brushes, I have bore snakes, and I have straight rods.  I do not have a one piece rod however, that I could update.  I was more interested in a chamber brush and the otis cleaning "system" looked simple and convenient.  If anyone has a better idea, or a cheaper idea I am all ears.  I just want my gun cleaned and lubed in the best possible manner.  Best means the cleanest and also the most effectively lubricated.  I use the same tools to clean bolt guns, shotguns, and pistols.  Obviously not exactly the same, but I would like to get an AR specific cleaning kit, either self assemble one or purchase one.  Any suggestions are appreciated.
10/21/2014 7:35:35 PM EDT
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NON chlorinated brake cleaner works great for really caked on carbon and is cheap.  Carb cleaner can ruin plastics so stay away from it.  Penetrating oil is also a good option since it breaks up junk but doesn't strip your preservative oils.  I prefer tipton brand rods since they're nonmetallic and can flex quite a bit more without deforming.  Their AR chamber kit is great too and doubles as my pistol rod.  About the only thing special you need for an AR is a good chamber brush to clean the extension.  Everything else cleans just like any other rifle.

I don't like pull-through products because I've seen too many threads about "shit, my Boresnake/Otis is stuck in my barrel!"
10/22/2014 11:51:17 PM EDT
[#7]
There are two draw back with the otis:  

1) the cable could cause the patxh to loosen in the barrel therby getting a patch stuck in barrel. The only way to get it out is with a rod.

2) the cable requires these special patches with cut out on them. I buy them in 1k bulk.

If you do get a otis be sure to get the ar specific as it comes with a bone tool and chamber brush. It also comes with a picker and all that. Never had the patxh stuck in the bore myself but I did once had a heck of a time getting a patch to go through when I used it wrong.

Overall I love the otis but be sure to have a rod handy as well. Use all of them. I have been using Otis for a while now but only on rifles.
10/27/2014 4:22:03 PM EDT
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I love this place, ask a question get an answer....in fact, get many answers/opinions.  Always good to hear from people who actually have experience giving advice instead of just reading advertisements or listening to some random person at a gun store.   Now I may buy each part individually and make my own AR specific cleaning kit, or I might go with the AR specific otis kit.  I also have some new ideas about how to clean my carrier group.
11/2/2014 11:10:37 AM EDT
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There are two draw back with the otis:  

1) the cable could cause the patxh to loosen in the barrel therby getting a patch stuck in barrel. The only way to get it out is with a rod.

2) the cable requires these special patches with cut out on them. I buy them in 1k bulk.

If you do get a otis be sure to get the ar specific as it comes with a bone tool and chamber brush. It also comes with a picker and all that. Never had the patxh stuck in the bore myself but I did once had a heck of a time getting a patch to go through when I used it wrong.

Overall I love the otis but be sure to have a rod handy as well. Use all of them. I have been using Otis for a while now but only on rifles.
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That is not true what so ever. You can use any patch with an otis cable. I have been doing it since the 90's.
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