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7/26/2013 8:06:19 PM EDT
While looking for scope mounts, I've come across the NcStar Optics brand.  They make scopes, RDS's and mount hardware.  I found a few reviews on some of their scopes and they seem positive with just a few cons But almost all of the sights are under $100.  Thinking "you get what you pay for", I'm wondering about the products.

Anyone out there have any experience with this company????
7/26/2013 8:11:47 PM EDT
[#1]
Garbage. With the Primary Arms micro dot, Bushnell TRS25 etc in the sub $100 range and the Vortex Sparc and Strikefire, Lucid HD7 and M7  for $189 there is no reason to buy super cheap optics when for not much more you can get
one of those proven optics.
7/26/2013 8:41:42 PM EDT
[#2]
Waste of money. The lowest I would go is Primary Arms. They make solid stuff for a good price.
7/26/2013 9:07:01 PM EDT
[#3]
No.
7/26/2013 9:23:53 PM EDT
[#4]
Bells and whistles , barely airsoft grade.

If money is really tight buy a Leupold rifleman series or similar for a bit more than the Ncstarr.

Some folks try to justify them as a low cost choice but I tried cheaping out on optics years back when I was young and stupid and it never worked out well
7/26/2013 9:43:25 PM EDT
[#5]
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Bells and whistles , barely airsoft grade.

If money is really tight buy a Leupold rifleman series or similar for a bit more than the Ncstarr.

Some folks try to justify them as a low cost choice but I tried cheaping out on optics years back when I was young and stupid and it never worked out well
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Everyone has seen it, new guy comes asking about NcStar, Leapers, UTG, etc., everyone tells him its junk, he buys it anyway and tries to justify it:

'its not that bad, I didn't have to spend $500 like those suckers with Aimpoints'
'I'll upgrade later when I have more money'

Eventually they realize its shit and end up buying something decent, that $100 would have been a nice start towards decent optics.

OP: don't be that guy, save your heard earned money for something decent
7/27/2013 2:46:33 AM EDT
[#6]
You're better off mounting a pile of dog shit on you AR.
7/27/2013 2:51:00 AM EDT
[#7]
Not even once, not even as a joke, not even to "See if all the shit talking has merit".
It's a straight up waste of cash.   I bought one of their red dots to see if they are that bad, just as a joke.  They are.  





Save and buy better.





With the money you waste on ammo, chasing wandering zeros, you can buy a good optic.
7/27/2013 2:51:41 AM EDT
[#8]
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Everyone has seen it, new guy comes asking about NcStar, Leapers, UTG, etc., everyone tells him its junk, he buys it anyway and tries to justify it:

'its not that bad, I didn't have to spend $500 like those suckers with Aimpoints'
'I'll upgrade later when I have more money'

Eventually they realize its shit and end up buying something decent, that $100 would have been a nice start towards decent optics.

OP: don't be that guy, save your heard earned money for something decent
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Bells and whistles , barely airsoft grade.

If money is really tight buy a Leupold rifleman series or similar for a bit more than the Ncstarr.

Some folks try to justify them as a low cost choice but I tried cheaping out on optics years back when I was young and stupid and it never worked out well


Everyone has seen it, new guy comes asking about NcStar, Leapers, UTG, etc., everyone tells him its junk, he buys it anyway and tries to justify it:

'its not that bad, I didn't have to spend $500 like those suckers with Aimpoints'
'I'll upgrade later when I have more money'

Eventually they realize its shit and end up buying something decent, that $100 would have been a nice start towards decent optics.

OP: don't be that guy, save your heard earned money for something decent



But I didn't ask first. Got a 3x-9x scope... that won't hold a zero. At all.
7/27/2013 3:14:06 AM EDT
[#9]
NcStar options should be only considered for use as an ice cream scoop.
7/27/2013 3:47:08 AM EDT
[#10]
HOLY CRAP! To date, I don't think I've read so much consistently negative feedback on a product in the forums I've read.

I really appreciate it though.  That's a product I was seriously considering as they had a line of scope that were made with rails around the case.  So much for that idea.

I'll go back on the hunt.  Thanks for everyone's input.  You all just saved me $100!
7/27/2013 3:54:34 AM EDT
[#11]
You know, I considered & really like the Strikefire.  (The wife has one her DDF and loves it).  But I've already got a red dot that I really am happy with. So I was looking for a way to mount the RDS I already have on top of a scope.  NcStar has a line of scopes that have a rail at the 12, 3, 6, & 9 o'clock positions.  I thought: PERFECT!"  But after all the negative feedback here, I'm thinking that would ne a real mistake.

They also make a line of mounts to put on a scope that has a short rail on top.  I may try to just find one of those and buy the better scope everyone is suggesting.

THANKS!
7/27/2013 4:01:09 AM EDT
[#12]
You might as well strike a match and burn your money as buy NcStar.

100% complete chicom crap.
7/27/2013 6:56:01 AM EDT
[#13]
NCStar is junk.

Bought a Mark III to use as a cheap plinking solution - while zeroing, I fired the second shot and the optic basically fell apart, literally.  My wife busted out laughing, as did I.  It was almost like a prank.  Lesson learned.  Avoid at all costs.
7/27/2013 7:20:18 AM EDT
[#14]
i have to agree with everyone here. i bought a Sightmark Ultra Shot Z series which is Sightmarks top of the line holographic sight. MSRP is about $150 and i got mine from Cabela's for HALF price so i thought to myself "i can't pass that up!"

AND i told a friend about it and said you should jump on this so we both bought 1 each.

I am Very glad i did not pay full MSRP for it because Both of them were very difficult to Zero in because of TERRIBLE adjustment detents.  My friends detents were acting almost like they were just spinning around and not actually adjusting but eventually they seemed to suddenly click properly and accuratley.  But my detents on the other hand had a very small range of what i would say felt like a "normal" adjustment range but when you had to adjust out further they got very stiff and felt like i was at the limit of adjustment.  I just kept on adjusting and it did actually zero out,  And both optics are holding zero for now.

Long story short is that i would be very cautious of these "economy" optics, and take the advise of people on this forum.
7/27/2013 7:22:55 AM EDT
[#15]
Do not buy.



that crap is peddled at gun shows, along with beanie babies and 5$ a slice pizza
7/27/2013 10:31:36 AM EDT
[#16]
I was thinking about getting the NcStar Mark III for an MP5 .22, NcStar scopes won't even hold a zero on a 22?
7/27/2013 10:48:11 AM EDT
[#17]
Not even on a .22.



And add Barska brand to the same category.
7/27/2013 3:26:48 PM EDT
[#18]
NCstar is crap.
7/27/2013 5:14:49 PM EDT
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7/27/2013 9:06:48 PM EDT
[#20]
Not even on a pellet gun.

BIL put a 1-4x on a Gamo .22 and it would hold zero for about 5 shots then start drifting left and high. Re-zero, same thing.

Fucking .gov needs to ban those pieces of shit and allow Norinco back.
7/27/2013 9:45:22 PM EDT
[#21]
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i have to agree with everyone here. i bought a Sightmark Ultra Shot Z series which is Sightmarks top of the line holographic sight. MSRP is about $150 and i got mine from Cabela's for HALF price so i thought to myself "i can't pass that up!"

AND i told a friend about it and said you should jump on this so we both bought 1 each.

I am Very glad i did not pay full MSRP for it because Both of them were very difficult to Zero in because of TERRIBLE adjustment detents.  My friends detents were acting almost like they were just spinning around and not actually adjusting but eventually they seemed to suddenly click properly and accuratley.  But my detents on the other hand had a very small range of what i would say felt like a "normal" adjustment range but when you had to adjust out further they got very stiff and felt like i was at the limit of adjustment.  I just kept on adjusting and it did actually zero out,  And both optics are holding zero for now.

Long story short is that i would be very cautious of these "economy" optics, and take the advise of people on this forum.
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What you describe here is found on many scopes. The adjustment screws push on the reticle but you have to tap the scope lightly to get the reticle to move. It's almost like the screws are pushing on a rubber band, and the reticle is on a sticky rail. So when you make the adjustment, the reticle may or may not move; you'll fire one or two shots before the recoil makes the reticle move.
7/28/2013 2:04:39 AM EDT
[#22]
I guess I got lucky.  I put a 2X8 NC Star pistol scope on the scout mount on my M1 Garand several years ago.

Never any issues with it.

I was in a hurry to get to an out of state range for a shoot.  I didn't know if I'd even like the concept of a scope out on the barrel.  But it worked and I never changed it.

I don't plan on buying another one though.  Last couple of optics I've bought were a Nikon P223 and an AimPoint.
7/28/2013 7:47:03 AM EDT
[#23]
well i guess i must be lucky

I have 3 3x9 scopes and a 4x

2 are on two 870 20ga my neighbor used one of my 20 ga. last year and bagged a 7 point buck with it at 75 yards.

the other one is a 10/22 ruger no issues at all

and 4x is my sks.

They all work for me cheap they are better than tasco in my opinion.

But on my 270 wsm i have a Leupold but the cost between them is huge. It always boils down to u get what you pay for. The nstar is fine for some applications and others ill stick with better scopes.

7/28/2013 12:17:01 PM EDT
[#24]
Have had one on my 20" ar for about 6 years now, no issues with it.
7/28/2013 1:39:06 PM EDT
[#25]
Bought a 3x9 NC Star when I got my first AR about 10 years ago.  I was never able to sight it in as I could never group with it.  complete garbage.
7/28/2013 7:20:58 PM EDT
[#26]
dont waste your money. I purchased an 2-7 scope, the cross hair broke on me during the zeroing.
7/28/2013 7:33:11 PM EDT
[#27]
I put their 4x ACOG replica on a .22 AR and it works well enough for a practice rifle.  I'm not going to drop $1000 on an optic for something that I never envision seeing serious work. It seems to hold zero and has better battery life than my Eotech.  If that's your purpose, go for it.  That said, I wouldn't use one on anything more powerful or that I'm relying upon.
7/28/2013 8:24:38 PM EDT
[#28]
I used one on a .22 pistol in IHMSA....no issues.  Shot a lot of 40's.   That said....I would never put one on one of my AR's!

Bill in OR
7/28/2013 8:28:47 PM EDT
[#29]
Take AK out of garbage, replace with NcStar.
7/28/2013 11:19:01 PM EDT
[#30]
I once lit a cigar with a $100 dollar bill, that was a better use of my cash that buying NCstar.
7/29/2013 1:18:16 PM EDT
[#31]
Heh, from this short thread alone, only using replies from the Ncstar owners...13 total scopes.  5 failures, 8 say they work.  That is an over 38% failure rate!  Small sample size to be sure, but interesting nonetheless.  Also, it isn't like 5 were not satisfied for some reason or 5 had minor issues...5 complete failures rendering the scope completely useless and thus a 100% waste of money.  I would never buy a product knowing that there was a 38% chance it would be useless.

Buying a low cost item with low performance (poor optical quality etc.) that still serves its intended function is something else...this is "no" performance complete failure on over a third of them, yikes.  
7/29/2013 1:46:57 PM EDT
[#32]
no issues with mine at all. never.
7/30/2013 5:34:33 AM EDT
[#33]
I spent three range days and a couple hundred rounds trying to zero a NC-star.  Could not get it right.   Shelved it, bought a Nikon M-223 and zeroed in 5 rounds.    If you want one I'll sell you mine for $20.  Wish I had found this forum BEFORE I blew $100 on worthless junk.
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