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5/6/2008 7:20:46 PM EDT
How valuable are real Roll Pin Punches over standard pin punches fo assembling my AR?  I was able to get pin starters, but not the actual punches.
5/6/2008 7:24:13 PM EDT
[#1]
They're helpful, but you can get by without them.

In a pinch, you can always turn a brass punch around and drill a hole in the back to use for starting the pins.
5/6/2008 7:24:35 PM EDT
[#2]
I thought they really helped a lot during my first build. Mainly they give you a way to set the roll pins in place without damaging the lower receiver finish.
5/6/2008 7:48:47 PM EDT
[#3]
I've been using parallel jaw pliers to set roll pins. No smashing the receiver with a hammer again!

BSW
5/6/2008 7:58:07 PM EDT
[#4]
I think your talking about the punches with the little tit on the end that keeps the roll pin from de-forming.  Seems like there is some confusion between those and starter pins.  If you are, I think it is the professional way to build ar's.  You will, at the least, mar the finish with a normal punch.  Normally, you start to roll the inside of the roll pins inwards when using a standard punch.  The roll pin punches will not mar or deform the roll pins.  Once you use them you will never go back.  I would get two sets just in case.  Use the right tool for the job.  
5/7/2008 1:47:49 AM EDT
[#5]
I believe roll pin punches are the only way to go if you really care about not slipping off of the pin and screwing up your firearm.
I bought a set thru Brownell's a few years ago. They are great!
5/7/2008 2:24:22 AM EDT
[#6]
I do have the Roll Pin starters from Schuster on order.  It sounds like if I want a good finish vs. a shiny spot on every roll pin, I ought to get the roll pin punches too.  

I do have brass punches.  Will they eliminate the marred finish on roll pins?
5/7/2008 2:25:01 AM EDT
[#7]
What sizes do I need?
5/7/2008 6:05:09 AM EDT
[#8]
I just did a build and I thought they were helpful.  Although I did my first build without them.  This one seemed easier with them.
5/7/2008 9:41:39 AM EDT
[#9]
Sears has roll pin punches in stock at most of there locations.

BJ
5/7/2008 11:09:44 AM EDT
[#10]
Lyman makes a nice set that has the correct size roll pin punches for your AR build. A lot of sites were out of stock a couple of weeks ago. I did find them at lock, stock & barrel for a good price.

Glen
5/7/2008 2:31:26 PM EDT
[#11]
I recommend them, you will have a much easier time installing or removing than with straight pin punches. As much as people complain about roll pins, when installed properly, they never walk out.
5/7/2008 6:13:27 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
I believe roll pin punches are the only way to go if you really care about not slipping off of the pin and screwing up your firearm.
I bought a set thru Brownell's a few years ago. They are great!


Me too. Its the only way to do it right.
5/7/2008 6:55:30 PM EDT
[#13]
If you're only going to build one lower, then you probably don't need them. If, however, you think you might be doing a few, then they're not a bad investment.

I got a set of Mayhew punches online (can't remember where, but I imagine you can google it), and I'm very happy with them.
5/8/2008 4:25:30 PM EDT
[#14]
Well, I just bought 1/16", 3/32", 1/8", and 5/32".  These are the needed sizes, the best I can tell.
5/8/2008 4:31:47 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
How valuable are real Roll Pin Punches over standard pin punches fo assembling my AR?  I was able to get pin starters, but not the actual punches.


I'd say depends upon your aptitude. For a ham fisted person like myself, they come in handy. The other criteria I'd use to justify purchasing them would be how many AR's do you think youll be doing? If more than 1 or 2, I'd say the expense is justified. I'm a tool whore. Some might say just a tool Still, I tend to buy alot of stuff even if I'm only gonna use it a few times.
5/8/2008 7:57:44 PM EDT
[#16]

Quoted:
Sears has roll pin punches in stock at most of there locations.

BJ

That's where I got mine-think I paid $20 for a 5 piece set. I like to do my own repairs on all my firearms when needed and possible, and I run into roll pins more and more. Even a Blackthorne kit build(cheapest I've found) can top $550, why skip a few dollars for the right tool? Do it right, the rifle will likely look better and you'll be happier with the money you spend on it.
5/9/2008 5:50:15 AM EDT
[#17]
+1   on the roll pin punches. It's the only way to go. My .02
5/9/2008 10:38:29 AM EDT
[#18]

Quoted:
I've been using parallel jaw pliers to set roll pins. No smashing the receiver with a hammer again!

BSW


+1
Just put together a lower the other night, using electrical tape wrapped on the jaws of a pair of Robopliers.  Worked perfectly for all of the roll pins, no effort, no scratches.
5/9/2008 5:18:48 PM EDT
[#19]
I bought a set from Bushmaster some time ago and have been very happy.
5/9/2008 5:33:46 PM EDT
[#20]
Just got mine from Brownells.  Don't know how I went all those years without them.  Now I need to stop using that Crescent wrench for a hammer...
5/9/2008 5:46:40 PM EDT
[#21]

Quoted:
I do have the Roll Pin starters from Schuster on order.  It sounds like if I want a good finish vs. a shiny spot on every roll pin, I ought to get the roll pin punches too.  

I do have brass punches.  Will they eliminate the marred finish on roll pins?

I used brass punches for my first build, no problems.
Later, I was able to afford buying a set of roll pin punches and did. But if I hadn't, I'd have still been comfortable using the brass punches.

I highly recommend roll pin punches, and absent that, brass.
5/9/2008 5:48:54 PM EDT
[#22]

Quoted:
What sizes do I need?

IIRC Brownells had a set specifically for AR-15 builds, when I bought my set, but they also had a set that came with one more punch, that was the one I bough, "Just in Case." and, it wasn't that much more expensive, I think it cost less than the cost of buying the extra punch.
5/9/2008 7:19:04 PM EDT
[#23]
The right Tool for the Job.
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