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12/2/2006 8:31:14 PM EDT
Well guys it's already been a year since I purchase my AR15, ever since I got it I spent more time admiring it and taking it to the shooting range than continuing to visit the website and forums here. Well I'm back.

Moving on.

I would like to purchase handguards as well as a set of fold up BUIS for my rifle. The reason I created this thread is to make sure what I purchase is the right stuff that will fit my AR15. I would greatly appreciate any information or, even better, some links to exactly what I can purchase. I would appreciate all help. :)

My AR15 was purchased at a local dealer here in Miami, Florida and is manufactured by Armalite therefore I have a direct link to my rifle right here to help you guys help me. Oh and by the way, I'll have an updated pic of my AR15 with the Aimpoint red dot sight I purchased for it a while ago up soon.
12/2/2006 8:43:30 PM EDT
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Any of the available flip up rail mount front/rear BUIS will fit your rifle.  Most companies that make BUIS make both front and rear sights.

If you want to purchase the best all in one go, I'd recommend the Troy set.  It will run you right near $250.

You don't have to spend that much though.  You could get a YHM set that would work just fine for around $140.  You should also watch the Equipment Exchange for deals.

Edited for horrendous spelling and typos.
12/2/2006 9:08:34 PM EDT
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Any of the available flip up rail mount front/rear BUIS will fit your rifle.  Most companies taht make BUIS make both front and rear sites.

If you want to purchase the best all in one go, I'd recommend the Troy set.  It will run you right near $250.

You don't have to spend that much though.  You could get a YHM set that would work just fine for around $140.  You should also watch the Equipment Exchange for deals.


Ok I saw the handguards on the Troy website already and I have a quick question, do the handguards they have on there fit for my gun? As in, do they basically "snap on" like the handguards that came with my gun currently do after you put down the big ring where the upper and lower meet and then the handguards open up.
12/2/2006 9:15:48 PM EDT
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Any of the available flip up rail mount front/rear BUIS will fit your rifle.  Most companies taht make BUIS make both front and rear sites.

If you want to purchase the best all in one go, I'd recommend the Troy set.  It will run you right near $250.

You don't have to spend that much though.  You could get a YHM set that would work just fine for around $140.  You should also watch the Equipment Exchange for deals.


Ok I saw the handguards on the Troy website already and I have a quick question, do the handguards they have on there fit for my gun? As in, do they basically "snap on" like the handguards that came with my gun currently do after you put down the big ring where the upper and lower meet and then the handguards open up.


The Troy handguards are a two-piece free-float unit.  The require removal of the delta ring (the "big ring").  You can either dremel it off or remove the front sight and barrel to take it off (dremel is much easier).  

If you want something rail-wise that installs like regular handguards, look at YHM, Midwest Industries, KAC, and Surefire.
12/2/2006 9:20:22 PM EDT
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Any of the available flip up rail mount front/rear BUIS will fit your rifle.  Most companies taht make BUIS make both front and rear sites.

If you want to purchase the best all in one go, I'd recommend the Troy set.  It will run you right near $250.

You don't have to spend that much though.  You could get a YHM set that would work just fine for around $140.  You should also watch the Equipment Exchange for deals.


Ok I saw the handguards on the Troy website already and I have a quick question, do the handguards they have on there fit for my gun? As in, do they basically "snap on" like the handguards that came with my gun currently do after you put down the big ring where the upper and lower meet and then the handguards open up.


The Troy handguards are a two-piece free-float unit.  The require removal of the delta ring (the "big ring").  You can either dremel it off or remove the front sight and barrel to take it off (dremel is much easier).  

If you want something rail-wise that installs like regular handguards, look at YHM, Midwest Industries, KAC, and Surefire.


Oh ok understand now. If I recall from the time when I first registered on here and asked about it, regular install handguards are favored/recommended over free float correct?
12/2/2006 9:23:50 PM EDT
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Any of the available flip up rail mount front/rear BUIS will fit your rifle.  Most companies taht make BUIS make both front and rear sites.

If you want to purchase the best all in one go, I'd recommend the Troy set.  It will run you right near $250.

You don't have to spend that much though.  You could get a YHM set that would work just fine for around $140.  You should also watch the Equipment Exchange for deals.


Ok I saw the handguards on the Troy website already and I have a quick question, do the handguards they have on there fit for my gun? As in, do they basically "snap on" like the handguards that came with my gun currently do after you put down the big ring where the upper and lower meet and then the handguards open up.


The Troy handguards are a two-piece free-float unit.  The require removal of the delta ring (the "big ring").  You can either dremel it off or remove the front sight and barrel to take it off (dremel is much easier).  

If you want something rail-wise that installs like regular handguards, look at YHM, Midwest Industries, KAC, and Surefire.


Oh ok understand now. If I recall from the time when I first registered on here and asked about it, regular install handguards are favored/recommended over free float correct?


The opposite.

Theres a thread floating around where someone took 2 identical uppers, one with FF and one not and the FF had much better grouping.  Of course, YMMV on that as no gun is going to perform exactly teh same but the differentiation between teh groups does lead to believe that FF performs a tad better.
12/2/2006 9:26:05 PM EDT
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Any of the available flip up rail mount front/rear BUIS will fit your rifle.  Most companies taht make BUIS make both front and rear sites.

If you want to purchase the best all in one go, I'd recommend the Troy set.  It will run you right near $250.

You don't have to spend that much though.  You could get a YHM set that would work just fine for around $140.  You should also watch the Equipment Exchange for deals.


Ok I saw the handguards on the Troy website already and I have a quick question, do the handguards they have on there fit for my gun? As in, do they basically "snap on" like the handguards that came with my gun currently do after you put down the big ring where the upper and lower meet and then the handguards open up.


The Troy handguards are a two-piece free-float unit.  The require removal of the delta ring (the "big ring").  You can either dremel it off or remove the front sight and barrel to take it off (dremel is much easier).  

If you want something rail-wise that installs like regular handguards, look at YHM, Midwest Industries, KAC, and Surefire.


Oh ok understand now. If I recall from the time when I first registered on here and asked about it, regular install handguards are favored/recommended over free float correct?


That depends.  Non-FF rails are easier to install, but much less solid.  Also, any tension on a non-FF handguard (such as from accessories, a bipod, a sling) will have a nominal negative effect on accuracy (how much and whether it is noticable depends on shooting conditions, what is pulling on it, and your own skill).  Non-FF handguards are fine for mounting things like flashlights and vertical foregrips.

FF handguards are more work to install (although ones like the Troy have made it much easier than it used to be), but they provide a stable platform to mount movement-sensitive things like sights, optics, and lasers (and of course VFGs, flashlights, etc), and they prevent those things from negatively impacting accuracy.

It all depends on what your needs and intended uses are.
12/2/2006 9:26:37 PM EDT
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Any of the available flip up rail mount front/rear BUIS will fit your rifle.  Most companies taht make BUIS make both front and rear sites.

If you want to purchase the best all in one go, I'd recommend the Troy set.  It will run you right near $250.

You don't have to spend that much though.  You could get a YHM set that would work just fine for around $140.  You should also watch the Equipment Exchange for deals.


Ok I saw the handguards on the Troy website already and I have a quick question, do the handguards they have on there fit for my gun? As in, do they basically "snap on" like the handguards that came with my gun currently do after you put down the big ring where the upper and lower meet and then the handguards open up.


The Troy handguards are a two-piece free-float unit.  The require removal of the delta ring (the "big ring").  You can either dremel it off or remove the front sight and barrel to take it off (dremel is much easier).  

If you want something rail-wise that installs like regular handguards, look at YHM, Midwest Industries, KAC, and Surefire.


Oh ok understand now. If I recall from the time when I first registered on here and asked about it, regular install handguards are favored/recommended over free float correct?


The opposite.

Theres a thread floating around where someone took 2 identical uppers, one with FF and one not and the FF had much better grouping.  Of course, YMMV on that as no gun is going to perform exactly teh same but the differentiation between teh groups does lead to believe that FF performs a tad better.


It's not necessarily the opposite.  It depends on what your intended use is.
12/2/2006 9:30:04 PM EDT
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Any of the available flip up rail mount front/rear BUIS will fit your rifle.  Most companies taht make BUIS make both front and rear sites.

If you want to purchase the best all in one go, I'd recommend the Troy set.  It will run you right near $250.

You don't have to spend that much though.  You could get a YHM set that would work just fine for around $140.  You should also watch the Equipment Exchange for deals.


Ok I saw the handguards on the Troy website already and I have a quick question, do the handguards they have on there fit for my gun? As in, do they basically "snap on" like the handguards that came with my gun currently do after you put down the big ring where the upper and lower meet and then the handguards open up.


The Troy handguards are a two-piece free-float unit.  The require removal of the delta ring (the "big ring").  You can either dremel it off or remove the front sight and barrel to take it off (dremel is much easier).  

If you want something rail-wise that installs like regular handguards, look at YHM, Midwest Industries, KAC, and Surefire.


Oh ok understand now. If I recall from the time when I first registered on here and asked about it, regular install handguards are favored/recommended over free float correct?


The opposite.

Theres a thread floating around where someone took 2 identical uppers, one with FF and one not and the FF had much better grouping.  Of course, YMMV on that as no gun is going to perform exactly teh same but the differentiation between teh groups does lead to believe that FF performs a tad better.


It's not necessarily the opposite.  It depends on what your intended use is.


I suppose if you were just going to get the stock handguards on and just use it for general purpose, yeah.
But I was thinking more along the lines of using a grip and/or flashlight or whatever....actually using the quad-rail.  Shoulda specified more.
12/2/2006 9:31:32 PM EDT
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Ahhh very well, thanks for all the quick help I knew I'd get some quick reliable help on here, that's why I'm a member. hen,
Oh, one last thing, in case I do decide to go with FF handguards is there any little guide around for removing the delta ring off my kind of gun?
12/2/2006 9:34:31 PM EDT
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Any of the available flip up rail mount front/rear BUIS will fit your rifle.  Most companies taht make BUIS make both front and rear sites.

If you want to purchase the best all in one go, I'd recommend the Troy set.  It will run you right near $250.

You don't have to spend that much though.  You could get a YHM set that would work just fine for around $140.  You should also watch the Equipment Exchange for deals.


Ok I saw the handguards on the Troy website already and I have a quick question, do the handguards they have on there fit for my gun? As in, do they basically "snap on" like the handguards that came with my gun currently do after you put down the big ring where the upper and lower meet and then the handguards open up.


The Troy handguards are a two-piece free-float unit.  The require removal of the delta ring (the "big ring").  You can either dremel it off or remove the front sight and barrel to take it off (dremel is much easier).  

If you want something rail-wise that installs like regular handguards, look at YHM, Midwest Industries, KAC, and Surefire.


Oh ok understand now. If I recall from the time when I first registered on here and asked about it, regular install handguards are favored/recommended over free float correct?


The opposite.

Theres a thread floating around where someone took 2 identical uppers, one with FF and one not and the FF had much better grouping.  Of course, YMMV on that as no gun is going to perform exactly teh same but the differentiation between teh groups does lead to believe that FF performs a tad better.


It's not necessarily the opposite.  It depends on what your intended use is.


I suppose if you were just going to get the stock handguards on and just use it for general purpose, yeah.
But I was thinking more along the lines of using a grip and/or flashlight or whatever....actually using the quad-rail.  Shoulda specified more.


A grip and a flashlight are fine on a non-FF.  Soldiers like me use them in Iraq every day....

...so take your sarcasm elsewhere.

12/2/2006 10:05:35 PM EDT
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Any of the available flip up rail mount front/rear BUIS will fit your rifle.  Most companies taht make BUIS make both front and rear sites.

If you want to purchase the best all in one go, I'd recommend the Troy set.  It will run you right near $250.

You don't have to spend that much though.  You could get a YHM set that would work just fine for around $140.  You should also watch the Equipment Exchange for deals.


Ok I saw the handguards on the Troy website already and I have a quick question, do the handguards they have on there fit for my gun? As in, do they basically "snap on" like the handguards that came with my gun currently do after you put down the big ring where the upper and lower meet and then the handguards open up.


The Troy handguards are a two-piece free-float unit.  The require removal of the delta ring (the "big ring").  You can either dremel it off or remove the front sight and barrel to take it off (dremel is much easier).  

If you want something rail-wise that installs like regular handguards, look at YHM, Midwest Industries, KAC, and Surefire.


Oh ok understand now. If I recall from the time when I first registered on here and asked about it, regular install handguards are favored/recommended over free float correct?


The opposite.

Theres a thread floating around where someone took 2 identical uppers, one with FF and one not and the FF had much better grouping.  Of course, YMMV on that as no gun is going to perform exactly teh same but the differentiation between teh groups does lead to believe that FF performs a tad better.


It's not necessarily the opposite.  It depends on what your intended use is.


I suppose if you were just going to get the stock handguards on and just use it for general purpose, yeah.
But I was thinking more along the lines of using a grip and/or flashlight or whatever....actually using the quad-rail.  Shoulda specified more.


A grip and a flashlight are fine on a non-FF.  Soldiers like me use them in Iraq every day....

...so take your sarcasm elsewhere.



We had them as well.  We had PAQ4s and some guys had PEQ2's.

The general consensus on Arfcom seems to be that anything mounted on a non-FF quad-rail will result in barrel torque.  I was making fun of their opinions.
12/2/2006 10:08:04 PM EDT
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Ah, ok, I misunderstood.  Lo siento.
12/2/2006 10:09:23 PM EDT
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Ah, ok, I misunderstood.  Lo siento.


No problems.  

I just think its funny when all the armchair commandos are like, "omgz, a flashlight will torque the barrel!"

It doesnt matter to me either way so I got non-FF quadrail on my new CMMG....
12/2/2006 10:10:37 PM EDT
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Ahhh very well, thanks for all the quick help I knew I'd get some quick reliable help on here, that's why I'm a member.

Now then, I'll get to making my wishlist for Christmas...

Oh, one last thing, in case I do decide to go with FF handguards is there any little guide around for removing the delta ring off my kind of gun?


There's a tacked thread in the Build It Yourself forum with info on all sorts of FF installs.
12/3/2006 6:39:26 AM EDT
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Ahhh very well, thanks for all the quick help I knew I'd get some quick reliable help on here, that's why I'm a member. hen,
Oh, one last thing, in case I do decide to go with FF handguards is there any little guide around for removing the delta ring off my kind of gun?


There's a tacked thread in the Build It Yourself forum with info on all sorts of FF installs.


Alright then sounds good. Again, plenty thanks for all the help, really appreciate it.
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