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1/12/2009 3:00:06 AM EDT
So i took the new 16" carbine out saturday and it was all over the place.
Mostly shooting low and right.

I shot my handguns and shotgun first so by the time I got on the rifle range I didnt have as much time as I liked before I had to go.

I will admit I am not the best shot but it was damn frustrating.  About 100 rounds and I was on paper but couldnt get it zeroed.

Oh well that just means more practice, which isnt a bad thing.
How many rounds is the average for a new rifle.

If anyone lives in the area and uses Babcock/Webb, let me know I could use a little help.  Hell I will buy the lunch afterwards.

Natron
1/12/2009 3:07:46 AM EDT
[#1]
Quoted:
So i took the new 16" carbine out saturday and it was all over the place.
Mostly shooting low and right.

I shot my handguns and shotgun first so by the time I got on the rifle range I didnt have as much time as I liked before I had to go.

I will admit I am not the best shot but it was damn frustrating.  About 100 rounds and I was on paper but couldnt get it zeroed.

Oh well that just means more practice, which isnt a bad thing.
How many rounds is the average for a new rifle.

If anyone lives in the area and uses Babcock/Webb, let me know I could use a little help.  Hell I will buy the lunch afterwards.

Natron


Do lots and lots of this.
1/12/2009 3:29:11 AM EDT
[#2]
Is Babcock/Webb off Jones Loop?  I've never used that range but wondered how it is.  

As for your needs, I'm no expert and would be of little help but you could probably get some help in the Florida section of the Hometown Forum.

Out of curiosity, what make and model gun, which ammo, and at what range were you shooting?  Iron sights?

Chris
1/12/2009 4:32:29 AM EDT
[#3]
It might be as simple as you were tired after shooting the other firearms. Next time sight-in first while you're fresh/rested.
1/12/2009 8:25:09 AM EDT
[#4]
yes, off Jones Loop. It is a nice setup there.
I was shooting 50 yds with iron sites, PMC 55gr.
It is a DPMS lower and 16" bushy upper.


I will be going back to practice.

Natron
1/12/2009 9:16:38 AM EDT
[#5]
Good to know...I'll have to try that range out since it's pretty close.

I recently zero'd my AR at 50 yards with LC 193 and was impressed.  Moved to 100 yards and still did pretty good for BUIS.  Then I shot some PMC and was hitting paper but not as tight as the 'good stuff' (funny, I was high and left, the complete opposite as you).  I also shot some Federal red box 223 and it seemed as good as the Lake City stuff at 100 yds.
1/12/2009 9:43:53 AM EDT
[#6]
With your new rifle, did you use any specific break-in procedure for the barrel?  Clean after each shot for the first 10-25, then every 10 for the next 100?  Anything like that?
1/12/2009 11:16:38 AM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
With your new rifle, did you use any specific break-in procedure for the barrel?  Clean after each shot for the first 10-25, then every 10 for the next 100?  Anything like that?



No. nothing like that
1/12/2009 1:26:06 PM EDT
[#8]
You may want to buy a boresighter. I just picked one up and it fits down the barrel and works on all calibers plus pistols! They are cheap and even Ebay has some!!
1/12/2009 1:32:13 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
So i took the new 16" carbine out saturday and it was all over the place.
Mostly shooting low and right.

I shot my handguns and shotgun first so by the time I got on the rifle range I didnt have as much time as I liked before I had to go.

I will admit I am not the best shot but it was damn frustrating.  About 100 rounds and I was on paper but couldnt get it zeroed.

Oh well that just means more practice, which isnt a bad thing.
How many rounds is the average for a new rifle.

If anyone lives in the area and uses Babcock/Webb, let me know I could use a little help.  Hell I will buy the lunch afterwards.

Natron


Bench rest or off hand?  Do you know how to adjust the sights? (not meant as a insult just trying to help)

1/14/2009 8:35:54 AM EDT
[#10]
natron i am waiting for a few parts to finish my new build and will be glad to meet up at the range . i will pm you when i get the part .
1/14/2009 8:58:04 AM EDT
[#11]
Boresighter cured that for me, and then I got down to the business of dialing it in. Don't get discouraged like I did the first day.....you will get it.

Greg
1/14/2009 9:34:13 AM EDT
[#12]
sounds like you need to break that NEW rifle in. After a few hundred more rounds and multiple cleanings, see how zero's.
1/14/2009 10:03:29 AM EDT
[#13]
The carbine requires more attention to detail to get those groups down. Use the small aperture. Make sure the elevation knob is all the way down and set on 300/800 (A2 sight). Fire at the 25 yard target and take your time. Adjust elevation with the front sight (you need the tool) and windage with the rear sight to bring the point of impact to the point of aim. You should be shooting into a 2" circle at the most at 25 yards. Use the small aperture anytime you're target shooting. Once you're sighted in at 25, the elevation marks on the rear sight will be more or less correct for longer ranges than 300 meters. If you're like most of us, you will never move that elevation knob as long as you own the carbine. Shots of 400 meters or more (a quarter mile) are pretty rare, as very few ranges exist with that kind of distance.
1/14/2009 11:24:32 AM EDT
[#14]
Get a washer. big round one.  Then get a person to put the washer on the barrel in front of the sight while you are in the same position you will sight the weapon with at the range. With out any ammo pull the trigger and let the hammer fall. Do this till you can fire without the washer falling off the barrel.  You are now ready to zero your new rifle.

I KNOW I KNOW!  NEVER EVER DRY FIRE A AR-15.  

Oh grow up.  This is just to ensure you can pull the trigger with out jerking the rifle.  IMHO worse case it's worth a new firing pin.
1/14/2009 3:22:46 PM EDT
[#15]
Quoted:
Get a washer. big round one.  Then get a person to put the washer on the barrel in front of the sight while you are in the same position you will sight the weapon with at the range. With out any ammo pull the trigger and let the hammer fall. Do this till you can fire without the washer falling off the barrel.  You are now ready to zero your new rifle.

I KNOW I KNOW!  NEVER EVER DRY FIRE A AR-15.  

Oh grow up.  This is just to ensure you can pull the trigger with out jerking the rifle.  IMHO worse case it's worth a new firing pin.


Where did you hear that? Dry fireing is part of the fuction test.
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