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Posted: 11/4/2003 2:06:34 PM EDT
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You'll need a unZIP program to read this (MS word doc). Has a lot more specifics about performance required of the SCAR: www.eps.gov/EPSData/ODA/Synopses/27191/H92222%2D04%2DR%2D0001A/SynopsisofDraftspecification04%2DR%2D0001rev1%2Edoc%2Ezip |
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Actually the hhmming was the 90 degree from safe to FA - as the M4/M16 has 180... At least when Ilooked 10 secs ago. The 7.62 NATO with a suppressor is actually controllable in full auto. As well it will adopt to other rounds that are more manageable than the 7.62x51 |
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I think the uninterupted top rail disqualifies the XM-8 - as well the EGLM attachment. The SOPMODII and SCAR stuff has been furnished in TAUPE. My guess is easiest fix with the M16 platform is a redesigned selector Safe - Auto - Semi. IMHO/E the M16 selector is much better than the H&K types -and if it aint broke dont f*ck it up. |
| Also, note the overall length restriction on the SCAR-S. If this isn't aimed directly at favouring HK, I don't know what is. There's now way to get a convemntional M-16 derivative system with the normal buffer/tube assy to meet that OAL requirement. On the SCAR-CQB, yes -- on the SCAR - Standard (Carbine), no. |
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Quoted: Also, note the overall length restriction on the SCAR-S. If this isn't aimed directly at favouring HK, I don't know what is. There's now way to get a convemntional M-16 derivative system with the normal buffer/tube assy to meet that OAL requirement. On the SCAR-CQB, yes -- on the SCAR - Standard (Carbine), no. The document specifies 33" stock extended/29.9" closed for the SCAR-S.. and those are the dimensions of the current M4.. and the SCAR (CQB) specifies dimensions equal to that of a M4 with a 10.5" upper. The XM8 fits in those dimensions with a 12.5" or 9" barrel respectively... Combine that with the fact that muzzle velocities in the G36 series tend to run equal to a M16 series _minus_ one inch of barrel (i.e. the 12.5" G36K has the same velo as a 11.5" Colt Commando.. the 15.4" G36 has numbers like that of a M4) and the XM8 seems to be at a disadvantage. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Also, note the overall length restriction on the SCAR-S. If this isn't aimed directly at favouring HK, I don't know what is. There's now way to get a convemntional M-16 derivative system with the normal buffer/tube assy to meet that OAL requirement. On the SCAR-CQB, yes -- on the SCAR - Standard (Carbine), no. The document specifies 33" stock extended/29.9" closed for the SCAR-S.. and those are the dimensions of the current M4.. and the SCAR (CQB) specifies dimensions equal to that of a M4 with a 10.5" upper. The XM8 fits in those dimensions with a 12.5" or 9" barrel respectively... Combine that with the fact that muzzle velocities in the G36 series tend to run equal to a M16 series _minus_ one inch of barrel (i.e. the 12.5" G36K has the same velo as a 11.5" Colt Commando.. the 15.4" G36 has numbers like that of a M4) and the XM8 seems to be at a disadvantage. Good post! Also, Anyone notice this cartridge specified: 5.56mm. R2LP :for Mil. standard: HS/4083/CO1/1251A Never heard of that one! Any ideas? |
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I measured my 16" Midlength w/ Magpull M93 I am sure it was very close to the 33" length. The XM-8 does not have a full length M1913 rail - nor does the G36. This is still a draft is it not - with industry feedback and (hopefully) user feedback before a fixed spec is issued? |
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