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11/19/2016 8:37:28 PM EDT
Has this one been brought up yet?

digitrigger.com

11/19/2016 9:17:52 PM EDT
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Wonder how long before people are flashing the firmware on these things to replace the PR mode with full auto mode.
11/19/2016 9:22:51 PM EDT
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Well that's certainly interesting. I mean clearly a lot going on in there (i.e. more to go wrong). However from a geek and functionality point of view it looks pretty damn cool.

edit: saw the post above mine... I would wonder if they wouldn't put some kind of mechanical limit switch in there which prevents the hammer from staying back to allow full auto? That would seem to be the only way to prevent that.
11/19/2016 9:27:02 PM EDT
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That actually looks pretty cool to me.
11/19/2016 10:39:43 PM EDT
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Electronic triggers are used in .22 cal olympic target pistols.
11/19/2016 10:39:45 PM EDT
[#5]
Seems like a lot of stuff to go wrong.


EDIT: Any idea on release date or pricing?


11/19/2016 10:46:31 PM EDT
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It does appear to keep it fully mechanical when on safe or "regular" fire mode.
11/19/2016 11:00:30 PM EDT
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Link is dead and site can't be reached?
11/19/2016 11:03:01 PM EDT
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well that's pretty interesting but atm I think its BS. More detailed info needs to be presented.
11/19/2016 11:03:37 PM EDT
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\https://digitrigger.com/
11/19/2016 11:58:27 PM EDT
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Fixed.
11/20/2016 12:17:15 AM EDT
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So whats the price?
11/20/2016 12:21:46 AM EDT
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comments from the video shows the price will be $499.
11/20/2016 12:31:52 AM EDT
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11/20/2016 12:42:43 AM EDT
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Looks somewhat cool. I didn't like that you could outrun the carrier on the mechanical binary triggers.  I like that this one prevents that. May pick one up for fun.
11/20/2016 12:48:03 AM EDT
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Looks somewhat cool. I didn't like that you could outrun the carrier on the mechanical binary triggers.  I like that this one prevents that. May pick one up for fun.
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The echo also prevents outrunning the carrier. I've only been waiting for it to ship since March.

 
11/20/2016 12:58:50 AM EDT
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Siiiiick!
11/20/2016 12:59:31 AM EDT
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Smart gun tech. Bad.
11/20/2016 10:18:38 AM EDT
[#18]
I think it's cool. Not sure if I would buy one though.
11/20/2016 11:05:49 AM EDT
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It would only be bad if the trigger became self aware.
11/20/2016 11:15:11 AM EDT
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Cool for a range toy. I'd consider one to blast with.
11/20/2016 11:39:49 AM EDT
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50,000 hour battery life? Does it recharge using the electric current in the human grip? What if the battery starts dying and guns just start randomly shooting people like the democrates say?! Does it add a lb. to your rifle? What if China hacks them and they invade? Is it Eric Holder approved? What if an explosive knocked you back and nearly unconcious and Degan is walking towards you with Lucile but you can't quite grip the rifle with a missing thumb? Can you override the grip safety? Is the grip body heat activated so zombies with an IQ over 50 can't use it? In low light conditions does it put on a multi color LED light show in position "3"? Does the cold reduce battery life and does it generate heat so a slung rifle will keep your junk warm? Will it melt snow into water then heat it up to prepare MRE's? Is it made in China? Until these basic features and a few more concerns are addressed I'll have to hold off on buying. Maybe they can hire Desert Tech to help them get a gen 2 to market on time... Besides,  it's not a Magpul MOE+ in FDE.
11/20/2016 12:20:27 PM EDT
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50,000 hour battery life? Does it recharge using the electric current in the human grip? What if the battery starts dying and guns just start randomly shooting people like the democrates say?! Does it add a lb. to your rifle? What if China hacks them and they invade? Is it Eric Holder approved? What if an explosive knocked you back and nearly unconcious and Degan is walking towards you with Lucile but you can't quite grip the rifle with a missing thumb? Can you override the grip safety? Is the grip body heat activated so zombies with an IQ over 50 can't use it? In low light conditions does it put on a multi color LED light show? Does the cold reduce battery life and does it generate heat so a slung rifle will keep your junk warm? Will be melt snow into water then heat it up to prepare MRE's? Is it made in China? Until these basic features and a few more concerns are addressed I'll have to hold off on buying. Maybe they can hire Desert Tech to help them get a gen 2 to market on time... Besides,  it's not a Magpul MOE+ in FDE.
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how low do you sling your rifle?
11/20/2016 12:31:46 PM EDT
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This. Way too easy to do this...
11/20/2016 12:52:50 PM EDT
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50,000 hour battery life? Does it recharge using the electric current in the human grip? What if the battery starts dying and guns just start randomly shooting people like the democrates say?! Does it add a lb. to your rifle? What if China hacks them and they invade? Is it Eric Holder approved? What if an explosive knocked you back and nearly unconcious and Degan is walking towards you with Lucile but you can't quite grip the rifle with a missing thumb? Can you override the grip safety? Is the grip body heat activated so zombies with an IQ over 50 can't use it? In low light conditions does it put on a multi color LED light show? Does the cold reduce battery life and does it generate heat so a slung rifle will keep your junk warm? Will be melt snow into water then heat it up to prepare MRE's? Is it made in China? Until these basic features and a few more concerns are addressed I'll have to hold off on buying. Maybe they can hire Desert Tech to help them get a gen 2 to market on time... Besides,  it's not a Magpul MOE+ in FDE.

how low do you sling your rifle?


Better question is if I walk around with a chubby...
11/20/2016 2:55:02 PM EDT
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50,000 hour battery life? Does it recharge using the electric current in the human grip? What if the battery starts dying and guns just start randomly shooting people like the democrates say?! Does it add a lb. to your rifle? What if China hacks them and they invade? Is it Eric Holder approved? What if an explosive knocked you back and nearly unconcious and Degan is walking towards you with Lucile but you can't quite grip the rifle with a missing thumb? Can you override the grip safety? Is the grip body heat activated so zombies with an IQ over 50 can't use it? In low light conditions does it put on a multi color LED light show? Does the cold reduce battery life and does it generate heat so a slung rifle will keep your junk warm? Will be melt snow into water then heat it up to prepare MRE's? Is it made in China? Until these basic features and a few more concerns are addressed I'll have to hold off on buying. Maybe they can hire Desert Tech to help them get a gen 2 to market on time... Besides,  it's not a Magpul MOE+ in FDE.

how low do you sling your rifle?


Better question is if I walk around with a chubby...



You know, I think you might be a positive and refreshing addition to the site. Thanks for the chuckle.
11/20/2016 3:32:50 PM EDT
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Welcome to paintball tech from a decade ago.
11/20/2016 3:44:48 PM EDT
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Wonder how long before people are flashing the firmware on these things to replace the PR mode with full auto mode.


This. Way too easy to do this...

Would also be pretty easy to hide...simple push of a button and it's no longer full auto...hmm....
11/20/2016 3:54:13 PM EDT
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Ouch.
Its nice to see firearms tech catch up to paintball tech from 10 years ago. You can get an electronic grip and complete PB gun for $200.


edit: Guess I wasn't the only one who noticed that
11/20/2016 4:18:18 PM EDT
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I'm wondering if they are still waiting for word from ATF on it.  Seems like a lot of things for them to be able to question.


11/20/2016 7:33:42 PM EDT
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After being into paintball as a kid, I'm honestly amazed it took it this long...

I'm just waiting for the talks of trigger denounce, ramping modes, and special modes activated by leaf springs and magnets

11/20/2016 7:34:54 PM EDT
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Seems like a lot of stuff to go wrong.





EDIT: Any idea on release date or pricing?





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I get what you're saying however electro-pneumatic triggers have been used in paintball for decades now. When I used to play tournaments they were EXTREMELY reliable using either a microswitch or infrared beam controlled solenoid. A problem with the trigger or trigger related electronics was very rare, and even though this is quite a bit diffrrent, the idea is the same and I would put money on this being pretty reliable.
11/22/2016 2:21:25 AM EDT
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Why? As long as the first 2 positions are totally mechanical then you can always fall back to that if the electronics fail.

There seems to be a prevailing myth that mechanical systems are more reliable then electronic. It's actually the complete opposite. One example is cars no longer use points for ignition triggering, they use magnetic or optical sensors and have been since the 1970s. Another example is industrial tank level meters which now use ultrasonic or radar based sensors and not mechanical float sensors

Mechanical parts wear out every time there is motion, even if the surfaces are lubricated. The mechanical parts in the trigger group will probably give out long before the electronic components.
11/22/2016 2:32:44 AM EDT
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Looks like a fun range toy at the least.
11/22/2016 2:48:45 AM EDT
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When electric primers came out, ATF opined that they could not be used in self loading rifles.  It would seem that they quickly realized that it would be possible to make a machine gun with covert abilities to fire in an automatic mode.

I suspect if they ask the ATF, they'll get a similar answer.
11/22/2016 2:51:32 AM EDT
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When electric primers came out, ATF opined that they could not be used in self loading rifles.  It would seem that they quickly realized that it would be possible to make a machine gun with covert abilities to fire in an automatic mode.

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Cite please.

There are a number of electronic triggers on the market.  This isn't the first one anybody ever dreamed up.
11/22/2016 4:05:58 AM EDT
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Would also be pretty easy to hide...simple push of a button and it's no longer full auto...hmm....
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Wonder how long before people are flashing the firmware on these things to replace the PR mode with full auto mode.


This. Way too easy to do this...

Would also be pretty easy to hide...simple push of a button and it's no longer full auto...hmm....


Or using smartgun technology if you're not wearing the ring/watch/whatever it won't do it.
11/22/2016 8:20:53 AM EDT
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meh not for me.

But I'm in to see the video when someone hacks the board and installs a ramping mode......
11/22/2016 8:35:33 AM EDT
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So, one pull to fire one bullet, or two it seems with some of these triggers. What about pulling it 30 times in an unloaded gun, loading the gun, then activate said pulls with the next one?
11/22/2016 9:35:57 AM EDT
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So, one pull to fire one bullet, or two it seems with some of these triggers. What about pulling it 30 times in an unloaded gun, loading the gun, then activate said pulls with the next one?
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That's already been shot down by the ATF. Scroll down to question 22: http://imgur.com/a/vt2Qz
11/23/2016 6:36:09 AM EDT
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Wonder how long before people are flashing the firmware on these things to replace the PR mode with full auto mode.


This. Way too easy to do this...

So what? Plenty of guns are relatively easy to convert to automatic.

If someone wants to mess with the firmware on this thing, then that's their business.
11/23/2016 6:45:49 AM EDT
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Right? All those electrons moving around in there are scary.

It's inevitable that software will make its way into firearms. Who knows what they'll come up with a hundred years from now.
11/23/2016 6:46:59 AM EDT
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Don't think I'd like it not having a "break" in it.
11/23/2016 10:01:16 AM EDT
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What if an explosive knocked you back and nearly unconcious and Degan is walking towards you with Lucile but you can't quite grip the rifle with a missing thumb?.
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Dude, do you even Walking Dead?  Who the heck is Degan?
11/23/2016 12:28:37 PM EDT
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Dude, do you even Walking Dead?  Who the heck is Degan?
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What if an explosive knocked you back and nearly unconcious and Degan is walking towards you with Lucile but you can't quite grip the rifle with a missing thumb?.


Dude, do you even Walking Dead?  Who the heck is Degan?

I hope it was just a typo
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