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9/14/2008 7:25:27 AM EDT
I want the LowPro but I don't really want to shell out the cash for it right now. I guess my question is besides the quad-rail and sights what are the differences between the two? Would it be hard to slowly upgrade the basic to end with the low profile?  I was also thinking about the VIS but I don't think that I need that, that do you think of the VIS system?  I hear that Noveske has very good QC and fit and finish.. has anyone had any problems with this? I am very particular about the fit and finish of my guns and this is why I am looking into Noveske. THANKS.
9/14/2008 7:32:06 AM EDT
[#1]
The rail, front sight, and gas block are what separates the two.

You could upgrade the Basic to the low profile style... it'd take a some work though.

If you're on a budget, don't even consider the VIS upper. I've built several, they are really nice, but not worth the extra money unless you have it to spend in spades.

I would recommend the Basic type upper, spend the extra money on ammo and training/practice. If you want a rail, you can upgrade later.

BTW, I'd recommend the Recce Basic over the Carbine, though both should be perfectly reliable.
9/14/2008 7:40:27 AM EDT
[#2]

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The rail, front sight, and gas block are what separates the two.

You could upgrade the Basic to the low profile style... it'd take a some work though.

If you're on a budget, don't even consider the VIS upper. I've built several, they are really nice, but not worth the extra money unless you have it to spend in spades.

I would recommend the Basic type upper, spend the extra money on ammo and training/practice. If you want a rail, you can upgrade later.

BTW, I'd recommend the Recce Basic over the Carbine, though both should be perfectly reliable.


Thanks for the info man, I would be getting the Recce in the end. Also the money is there but I would like to, as you said spend more on ammo and optics then on the vis. I guess if I want the lowpro it would be worth the cash to just buy it built from Noveske. Thanks again.

One other thing, I would like a good pinking/long range ar..  does anyone have any experience with the SS over the normal Noveske bbl's?
9/14/2008 9:30:51 AM EDT
[#3]

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The rail, front sight, and gas block are what separates the two.

You could upgrade the Basic to the low profile style... it'd take a some work though.

If you're on a budget, don't even consider the VIS upper. I've built several, they are really nice, but not worth the extra money unless you have it to spend in spades.

I would recommend the Basic type upper, spend the extra money on ammo and training/practice. If you want a rail, you can upgrade later.

BTW, I'd recommend the Recce Basic over the Carbine, though both should be perfectly reliable.


Thanks for the info man, I would be getting the Recce in the end. Also the money is there but I would like to, as you said spend more on ammo and optics then on the vis. I guess if I want the lowpro it would be worth the cash to just buy it built from Noveske. Thanks again.

One other thing, I would like a good pinking/long range ar..  does anyone have any experience with the SS over the normal Noveske bbl's?


I am with 87GN on this one.  Get the lopro !6" Chrome lined N4 and never look back.  The barrel is better than most shooters and will last for a long time.  I am approaching the 4k round mark through my N4 16" barrel. She eats anything that I feed her, so ammo choice will never be an issue.  Have fun and shoot lots....
9/14/2008 9:38:43 AM EDT
[#4]

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The rail, front sight, and gas block are what separates the two.

You could upgrade the Basic to the low profile style... it'd take a some work though.

If you're on a budget, don't even consider the VIS upper. I've built several, they are really nice, but not worth the extra money unless you have it to spend in spades.

I would recommend the Basic type upper, spend the extra money on ammo and training/practice. If you want a rail, you can upgrade later.

BTW, I'd recommend the Recce Basic over the Carbine, though both should be perfectly reliable.


Thanks for the info man, I would be getting the Recce in the end. Also the money is there but I would like to, as you said spend more on ammo and optics then on the vis. I guess if I want the lowpro it would be worth the cash to just buy it built from Noveske. Thanks again.

One other thing, I would like a good pinking/long range ar..  does anyone have any experience with the SS over the normal Noveske bbl's?


I've built several uppers with SS Noveske barrels and purchased one or two whole. They shoot very well but all reports of the N4 barrels say that they are exceptional as well. I would pick the N4 as it is offered in a lighter profile. What do you consider long range? That N4 would be excellent to 600yds.
9/14/2008 11:34:17 AM EDT
[#5]
I am following this thread with interest as I am considering the Noveske for basically the same reasons. I know full well that reliability is more important than fit and finish, but that is also very important to me as well. I too am looking for a longer range gun, maybe out to 500-600  yards. So, all you guys with knowledge and experience with Noveske, please chime in and help with your knowlege and experience.  
9/14/2008 6:20:16 PM EDT
[#6]
well here's the deal my boss (girlfriend) said that I have picked up enough guns for the year and kinda cut me off so I am thinking of selling my LMT MRP so I can put it at the Noveske's price. I am thinking I might be kicking my self later for it. What do ya think? The thing is I hear the noveskes are better for the long range stuff. Hard choice!!
9/14/2008 6:30:20 PM EDT
[#7]
You can always pick up another girlfriend.  But getting rid of an LMT MRP.... that's kind of extreme.
9/14/2008 7:05:08 PM EDT
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You can always pick up another girlfriend.  But getting rid of an LMT MRP.... that's kind of extreme.


Ha, I like your way of thinking.
9/14/2008 7:16:16 PM EDT
[#9]
If you're short on funds just start with the basic.  Down the road you could easily add a DD Omega rail, or change to a VIS upper or any number of different options.
9/14/2008 7:33:40 PM EDT
[#10]

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If you're short on funds just start with the basic.  Down the road you could easily add a DD Omega rail, or change to a VIS upper or any number of different options.


That's kind of what I'm thinking at this point. One question, if I was to ad a rail later is it a big deal to have it butt up to the upper? How do you go about that with the ring in the way? I have yet to do somthing like that. Thanks.
9/14/2008 7:40:35 PM EDT
[#11]
You just got the MRP like three weeks ago and you are already trying to sell it? What can the Noveske do that you want it to, that the LMT can't? I am not trying to compare the two besides what you personally want from them.
9/15/2008 4:25:41 AM EDT
[#12]

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You just got the MRP like three weeks ago and you are already trying to sell it? What can the Noveske do that you want it to, that the LMT can't? I am not trying to compare the two besides what you personally want from them.


Ha, I wondered if anyone was going to call me out on that one. Since I got this MRP I picked up a 2nd lmt, it's not an mrp but it was cheaper and I figure I don't Need two. I hear all this good stuff about the Noveske it makes me want to check. Them out.
9/15/2008 11:05:28 AM EDT
[#13]

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If you're short on funds just start with the basic.  Down the road you could easily add a DD Omega rail, or change to a VIS upper or any number of different options.


That's kind of what I'm thinking at this point. One question, if I was to ad a rail later is it a big deal to have it butt up to the upper? How do you go about that with the ring in the way? I have yet to do somthing like that. Thanks.


Bump. I'm curious too.
9/15/2008 11:20:13 AM EDT
[#14]

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If you're short on funds just start with the basic.  Down the road you could easily add a DD Omega rail, or change to a VIS upper or any number of different options.


That's kind of what I'm thinking at this point. One question, if I was to ad a rail later is it a big deal to have it butt up to the upper? How do you go about that with the ring in the way? I have yet to do somthing like that. Thanks.


Bump. I'm curious too.


The DD Omega is a free float rail that attaches to an upper that still has a delta ring.

Or you could put a non-free float rail on, that would work too (oh, the horror! not free floating!)
9/15/2008 12:53:14 PM EDT
[#15]

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If you're short on funds just start with the basic.  Down the road you could easily add a DD Omega rail, or change to a VIS upper or any number of different options.


That's kind of what I'm thinking at this point. One question, if I was to ad a rail later is it a big deal to have it butt up to the upper? How do you go about that with the ring in the way? I have yet to do somthing like that. Thanks.


Bump. I'm curious too.


The DD Omega is a free float rail that attaches to an upper that still has a delta ring.

Or you could put a non-free float rail on, that would work too (oh, the horror! not free floating!)

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=124&t=343398



They have carbine and rifle lengths out now that I know of, midlength probably isn't too far out if not already available.  That would be the easiest retrofit down the road.
9/15/2008 1:02:48 PM EDT
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stickman.rainierarms.com/galleries/Projects/DD%20Rail/IMG_4456%20%20WEVO%20Stick.jpg

They have carbine and rifle lengths out now that I know of, midlength probably isn't too far out if not already available.  That would be the easiest retrofit down the road.


Midlength is out, $275.
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