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6/8/2008 7:00:33 PM EDT
Deciding on whether or not to buy a Noveske N4 for a SHTF/TEOTWAWKI Rifle. How is the reliability of these rifles? Will they shoot various ammo types well (if I had to). Does the precise manufacturing of these allow them to function dirty or are they finicky about needing to be cleaned often to function reliably? How do they copare to the reliability of the Colt's?Thanks for the help.
6/8/2008 7:14:38 PM EDT
[#1]
Lol....A Noveske will eat anything a colt or LMT will, and vice versa. Once they are broken in, any AR in my experience will eat the same stuff so long as it has a 5.56 chamber.

-Ryan
6/8/2008 8:24:24 PM EDT
[#2]
Took my 14.5 Afghan out today. Put about 500 rounds through it, one malfunction.

The malfunction was catastrophic though if it happened during a fire fight. The shell failed to eject but the BCG slammed back and tried to feed another round while the shell casing was still stuck in the chamber.

It wasnt the guns fault....I was shooting steel cased Wolf and the gun is still very new. The chamber is kinda tight I guess and when the casing expanded, it jammed in the chamber and the extractor just slipped off the lip as the BCG went back.

It took taking my Bore Tech cleaning rod and putting it down the muzzle and gently tapping the shell casing out to free it up. In a fire fight I woulda been toast.

However....in a firefight, I wouldnt have been using steel cased ammo. I have no doubt that if I was shooting factory brass cased ammo, i could have put 1000 rounds without cleaning or lubing and not have a malfunction.
6/8/2008 8:30:55 PM EDT
[#3]
I have about 3000 rounds through my N4 now. Zero malfunctions. In that 3000 rounds I've shot mostly my reloads, but also put Wolf, PMC, AE, Rem UMC, and various other brands of ammo through it. That was also with Pmags and USGI mags of various manufacturers. I couldn't be happier with it.
6/8/2008 9:23:26 PM EDT
[#4]
Bout 500 rounds through my N4 low pro 14.5. No issues at all except my giant sense of conceit at the range these days. I have shot mostly Remington UMC but also some 5.56 XM.

Not brave enough to try wolf until maybe another 200 rounds or so. Break in period. Nothing worse than click but no bang on a new gun; especially a $$$ one. I must say I love that rifle worth every penny I'd sell all my worldly posessions before I have to give up my N4
6/9/2008 1:02:23 AM EDT
[#5]
I see that Noveske barrels have Wylde chambers? Can someone explain? What does this means. I though Wylde chambers were for heavy bullets only? I'm about an inch from pulling the trigger on a Diplomat upper and want to make sure it'll shoot anything I give it. I see some folks are putting Wolf though theirs, which is good because I don't have much of a stock pile of brass cased ammo, but I have a few thousand rounds of steel cased(polymer type). And this will be a semi auto only gun--incase that matters. Thanks!
6/9/2008 5:33:16 AM EDT
[#6]
I've had my n4 light for a while now and have put maybe 8k rounds through it. all Wolf and Silver bear with a little georgia arms canned heat mixed in. Not one hiccup yet. I oil the gun often but have probably only cleaned it 3 times total.
6/9/2008 5:43:34 AM EDT
[#7]
I just ended an experiment to see what it would take to start getting problems with my Afgan.  600 rounds, no cleaning or lube.  I had two very minor misfires where the gun clicked, but no primer strike.  After reloading both rounds fired, and I lubed again.
6/9/2008 6:56:18 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
I see that Noveske barrels have Wylde chambers? Can someone explain? What does this means. I though Wylde chambers were for heavy bullets only? I'm about an inch from pulling the trigger on a Diplomat upper and want to make sure it'll shoot anything I give it. I see some folks are putting Wolf though theirs, which is good because I don't have much of a stock pile of brass cased ammo, but I have a few thousand rounds of steel cased(polymer type). And this will be a semi auto only gun--incase that matters. Thanks!


The Wylde chamber is basically a happy medium between 556 and .223 chambers.  It allows you to shoot 223 with greater accuarcy yet you still can shoot 556.  
6/9/2008 7:14:55 AM EDT
[#9]

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How is the reliability of these rifles?
 About as good as it's going to get.  
6/9/2008 11:37:02 AM EDT
[#10]
If memory serves, Noveske doesn't use Wylde, but their own size chamber which is between Wylde and 5.56.
6/9/2008 11:42:50 AM EDT
[#11]

Quoted:

Quoted:
How is the reliability of these rifles?
 About as good as it's going to get.  


+1, I shoot a 6.8 and they are awesome systems to say the least!

Vic
6/10/2008 5:34:06 PM EDT
[#12]
Sounds like Noveske is about as good as it gets!!!he That,s alot of hot air!!!
6/10/2008 5:49:58 PM EDT
[#13]

Quoted:

It wasnt the guns fault....I was shooting steel cased Wolf.....



A standard barrel with good ammo, will outshoot a Noveske barrel with Wolf everytime.

Take the extra money for the fancy barrel and buy good ammo



6/10/2008 6:52:55 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:

It wasnt the guns fault....I was shooting steel cased Wolf.....



A standard barrel with good ammo, will outshoot a Noveske barrel with Wolf everytime.

Take the extra money for the fancy barrel and buy good ammo





For training, Wolf is fine. I keep the gun stoked with 75 grain TAP if I need it and I have 2000 rounds of XM193 and a 1000 of SS109 for TEOTWAWKI scenarios.
6/11/2008 12:18:49 AM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:

Quoted:

It wasnt the guns fault....I was shooting steel cased Wolf.....



A standard barrel with good ammo, will outshoot a Noveske barrel with Wolf everytime.

Take the extra money for the fancy barrel and buy good ammo


I think some of us were thinking of all cases...including worse case. My stock pile has three times the amount of steel cased than brass. I just want to make sure before I buy a 1,500 upper that it's shoot whatever I feed it.
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