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Posted: 1/25/2023 8:52:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By S-1: LOL I'm surprised it wasn't some dude saying that the GBRS mount is only for airsofters and LARPing Well it is, sooooooo 
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:16:26 PM EDT
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Does anyone know if new production DDC MK16 rails are coming with the steel QD inserts?
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Posted: 1/25/2023 9:20:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalDentite: Does anyone know if new production DDC MK16 rails are coming with the steel QD inserts? It was mentioned that they stopped putting the inserts on the MK16 handguards. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 12:17:50 AM EDT
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Aside from the Kac 300m buis, are there any other “correct” buis that fit under the razor in the vortex Geissele mount? I know the Matech does not.
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Posted: 1/26/2023 12:29:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RichieRich562: Aside from the Kac 300m buis, are there any other "correct" buis that fit under the razor in the vortex Geissele mount? I know the Matech does not. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 12:33:32 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RichieRich562: Aside from the Kac 300m buis, are there any other “correct” buis that fit under the razor in the vortex Geissele mount? I know the Matech does not. You could also do the clone correct and budget friendly option of no buis.
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Posted: 1/26/2023 12:36:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TacticalDentite: Does anyone know if new production DDC MK16 rails are coming with the steel QD inserts? I just bought one and no inserts. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 12:39:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mmmboats: Well it is, sooooooo I've seen it on a few SOF guns. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 12:46:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: You could also do the clone correct and budget friendly option of no buis. Then I will have a lonely taupe Kac front sight... Been wanting to move the razor back to my Urgi, and move my exps to something else. The exps3-0 was nice because I have the matech buis to pair with it. But I think the razor just fits this upper more. I need to stop playing musical optics |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 1:16:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RichieRich562: Then I will have a lonely taupe Kac front sight... Been wanting to move the razor back to my Urgi, and move my exps to something else. The exps3-0 was nice because I have the matech buis to pair with it. But I think the razor just fits this upper more. I need to stop playing musical optics Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RichieRich562: Originally Posted By HD2006: You could also do the clone correct and budget friendly option of no buis. Then I will have a lonely taupe Kac front sight... Been wanting to move the razor back to my Urgi, and move my exps to something else. The exps3-0 was nice because I have the matech buis to pair with it. But I think the razor just fits this upper more. I need to stop playing musical optics The Razor does go nicely. I run a Razor in a C1 mount, started with 1.7 then swapped to 1.93, both of which clear a Matech. However I’ve decided I’m not a fan of 1.93 and want to go back to 1.7. The leftover taupe front is a perfect excuse to build a 10.3 or 11.5 and run a T2 on a Unity with its built in rear sight.  
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Posted: 1/26/2023 1:35:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: doolz]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: The Razor does go nicely. I run a Razor in a C1 mount, started with 1.7 then swapped to 1.93, both of which clear a Matech. However I’ve decided I’m not a fan of 1.93 and want to go back to 1.7. The leftover taupe front is a perfect excuse to build a 10.3 or 11.5 and run a T2 on a Unity with its built in rear sight. https://i.imgur.com/1vMGH13.jpg https://i.imgur.com/RuTkrXl.jpg Setups are very nice. ETA: What camera are you using for the photos? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/26/2023 10:08:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Boduke0220]
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Posted: 1/26/2023 10:42:19 AM EDT
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Does anyone know if guys are still using razors, or are they largely being replaced by atacrs? I know we are seeing a lot of atacrs being used lately.
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Posted: 1/26/2023 11:56:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doolz: Setups are very nice. ETA: What camera are you using for the photos? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doolz: Originally Posted By HD2006: The Razor does go nicely. I run a Razor in a C1 mount, started with 1.7 then swapped to 1.93, both of which clear a Matech. However I’ve decided I’m not a fan of 1.93 and want to go back to 1.7. The leftover taupe front is a perfect excuse to build a 10.3 or 11.5 and run a T2 on a Unity with its built in rear sight. https://i.imgur.com/1vMGH13.jpg https://i.imgur.com/RuTkrXl.jpg Setups are very nice. ETA: What camera are you using for the photos? iPhone 12 and good lighting for those
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Posted: 1/26/2023 1:51:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boduke0220: Seals using the URGI https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52650611188_7a1c610b6e_c.jpgUntitled by Trey Brown, on Flickr I saw that this morning and thought the same thing. First time I recall SEALs using them |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 2:18:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2: I saw that this morning and thought the same thing. First time I recall SEALs using them Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2: Originally Posted By Boduke0220: Seals using the URGI https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52650611188_7a1c610b6e_c.jpgUntitled by Trey Brown, on Flickr I saw that this morning and thought the same thing. First time I recall SEALs using them Looks like SOCOM has adopted the 14.5" RIS III URG-I. Guess I need to update the title and 1st post. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 2:21:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2: I saw that this morning and thought the same thing. First time I recall SEALs using them Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cjwwd2: Originally Posted By Boduke0220: Seals using the URGI https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52650611188_7a1c610b6e_c.jpgUntitled by Trey Brown, on Flickr I saw that this morning and thought the same thing. First time I recall SEALs using them There's pics of them with 11.5s. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 2:26:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Vapor-Trail]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: Looks like SOCOM has adopted the 14.5" RIS III URG-I. Guess I need to update the title and 1st post. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: Originally Posted By cjwwd2: Originally Posted By Boduke0220: Seals using the URGI https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/52650611188_7a1c610b6e_c.jpgUntitled by Trey Brown, on Flickr I saw that this morning and thought the same thing. First time I recall SEALs using them Looks like SOCOM has adopted the 14.5" RIS III URG-I. Guess I need to update the title and 1st post. Remember that photo of the URGI sitting on top of the pelican case in a classroom with the ATACR, Magpul buis, and PRS stock from a couple of years ago? I was told by somebody that that particular rifle was for the teams. ETA: This one  |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 2:31:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vapor-Trail: Remember that photo of the URGI sitting on top of the pelican case in a classroom with the ATACR, Magpul buis, and PRS stock from a couple of years ago? I was told by somebody that that particular rifle was for the teams. I need to look back through but there has been COTS uppers (full Geissele with their gas block) issued out over the past few years. It's hard to tell what is what. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 2:53:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/26/2023 2:55:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vapor-Trail: Remember that photo of the URGI sitting on top of the pelican case in a classroom with the ATACR, Magpul buis, and PRS stock from a couple of years ago? I was told by somebody that that particular rifle was for the teams. ETA: This one https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35055/urg-i_3_png-2059556-2686114.png You'd think that if they have them this whole time we would've have more photos then these from group 2. (Is that a training unit?) |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/26/2023 3:03:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Isnt this photo a few years old? I've always figured this was taken at CRANE hence the navy esq lower. You'd think that if they have them this whole time we would've have more photos then these from group 2. (Is that a training unit?) I think it was originally posted mid 2018? it was one of the first ITW urgi pics if i remember correctly |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 3:05:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Isnt this photo a few years old? I've always figured this was taken at CRANE hence the navy esq lower. You'd think that if they have them this whole time we would've have more photos then these from group 2. (Is that a training unit?) Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: Originally Posted By Vapor-Trail: Remember that photo of the URGI sitting on top of the pelican case in a classroom with the ATACR, Magpul buis, and PRS stock from a couple of years ago? I was told by somebody that that particular rifle was for the teams. ETA: This one https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35055/urg-i_3_png-2059556-2686114.png You'd think that if they have them this whole time we would've have more photos then these from group 2. (Is that a training unit?) I was told this one was heading to the teams way back when. But then we started seeing virtually the same setup (a recce/spr type rifle) except with the leupy and old RIS II. I just assumed they ended up sticking with the RIS II. Maybe they did, but then changed course? not sure. |
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Posted: 1/26/2023 3:05:56 PM EDT
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I think we may be seeing them testing the URG-I versus a full adoption by all of SOCOM.
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Posted: 1/26/2023 3:08:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vapor-Trail: I was told this one was heading to the teams way back when. But then we started seeing virtually the same setup (a recce/spr type rifle) except with the leupy and old RIS II. I just assumed they ended up sticking with the RIS II. Maybe they did, but then changed course? not sure. |
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USA
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Posted: 1/27/2023 1:27:58 PM EDT
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Dumb question. Why is it referred to as the RIS III? Are they not using the mk16 rail?
Atleast now I feel better about using my CQD and KAC 300m buis 
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Posted: 1/27/2023 1:58:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pezboytate]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RichieRich562: Dumb question. Why is it referred to as the RIS III? Are they not using the mk16 rail? Atleast now I feel better about using my CQD and KAC 300m buis https://i.imgur.com/Hjwz6P0.jpg RIS was made by Knight's Armament RIS II was made by Daniel Defense RIS III is apparently being made by Geissele (Geissele called it the MK16 years before the Navy called it the RIS III) |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 2:28:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LsuJon]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: RIS was made by Knight's Armament RIS II was made by Daniel Defense RIS III is apparently being made by Geissele (Geissele called it the MK16 years before the Navy called it the RIS III) looking up the URG-I kits nsn, they haven't been purchased in 5 years  Attached File |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/27/2023 3:52:18 PM EDT
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Why does the thread title have RIS-III in it now?
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Posted: 1/27/2023 4:54:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Boduke0220: Why does the thread title have RIS-III in it now? See the 2nd and 3rd post above yours. Also because pez's thread. |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 5:23:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LsuJon]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane: See the 2nd and 3rd post above yours. Also because pez's thread. |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 5:27:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WTFShane: See the 2nd and 3rd post above yours. Also because pez's thread. Looking through various NSN lookup websites and public contract listings it doesn't specifically mention "RIII", it just mentions the standard "URGI" verbiage. It's like calling the URGI, the "Block III" (I'm sure those that have been following since the beginning remember lol) Not being argumentative, just wanting clarification on where it's coming from. |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 5:43:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2Keylows: Sure. Looking through various NSN lookup websites and public contract listings it doesn't specifically mention "RIII", it just mentions the standard "URGI" verbiage. It's like calling the URGI, the "Block III" (I'm sure those that have been following since the beginning remember lol) Not being argumentative, just wanting clarification on where it's coming from. (kidding) |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 6:15:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2Keylows: Sure. Looking through various NSN lookup websites and public contract listings it doesn't specifically mention "RIII", it just mentions the standard "URGI" verbiage. It's like calling the URGI, the "Block III" (I'm sure those that have been following since the beginning remember lol) Not being argumentative, just wanting clarification on where it's coming from. Correct, Block III is not a thing. |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 7:25:35 PM EDT
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I just answered the simple question of why the title was changed.
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Posted: 1/27/2023 7:42:38 PM EDT
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I was under the impression that the hand guards names were given by the manufacturer, not military designations.
Daniel Defense recently released an mlok hand guard named the RIS III which uses the same barrel nut and bolt up plate as the RIS II. The rifle itself is named the RIII but the rail is in fact called the RIS III. I find it very unlikely that the Navy would give the Geissele rail the designation of RIS III. |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 8:04:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: I was under the impression that the hand guards names were given by the manufacturer, not military designations. Daniel Defense recently released an mlok hand guard named the RIS III which uses the same barrel nut and bolt up plate as the RIS II. The rifle itself is named the RIII but the rail is in fact called the RIS III. I find it very unlikely that the Navy would give the Geissele rail the designation of RIS III. And the Mk16 is a 5.56mm rifle made by FN. Interesting. |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 8:06:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate: And the Mk16 is a 5.56mm rifle made by FN. Interesting. |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 8:13:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: I was under the impression that the hand guards names were given by the manufacturer, not military designations. Daniel Defense recently released an mlok hand guard named the RIS III which uses the same barrel nut and bolt up plate as the RIS II. The rifle itself is named the RIII but the rail is in fact called the RIS III. I find it very unlikely that the Navy would give the Geissele rail the designation of RIS III. RIS II was called RIS II before DD was selected. The program managers gave it that name, which came from the original Knights RIS (RIS was the early RAS that did not have the clamp lock thingy) 
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Posted: 1/27/2023 8:23:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vapor-Trail: RIS II was called RIS II before DD was selected. The program managers gave it that name, which came from the original Knights RIS (RIS was the early RAS that did not have the clamp lock thingy) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35055/ris_ii_navsea-2687722.png Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Vapor-Trail: Originally Posted By HD2006: I was under the impression that the hand guards names were given by the manufacturer, not military designations. Daniel Defense recently released an mlok hand guard named the RIS III which uses the same barrel nut and bolt up plate as the RIS II. The rifle itself is named the RIII but the rail is in fact called the RIS III. I find it very unlikely that the Navy would give the Geissele rail the designation of RIS III. RIS II was called RIS II before DD was selected. The program managers gave it that name, which came from the original Knights RIS (RIS was the early RAS that did not have the clamp lock thingy) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35055/ris_ii_navsea-2687722.png Well I stand corrected |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 8:31:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Vapor-Trail]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: Well I stand corrected Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HD2006: Originally Posted By Vapor-Trail: Originally Posted By HD2006: I was under the impression that the hand guards names were given by the manufacturer, not military designations. Daniel Defense recently released an mlok hand guard named the RIS III which uses the same barrel nut and bolt up plate as the RIS II. The rifle itself is named the RIII but the rail is in fact called the RIS III. I find it very unlikely that the Navy would give the Geissele rail the designation of RIS III. RIS II was called RIS II before DD was selected. The program managers gave it that name, which came from the original Knights RIS (RIS was the early RAS that did not have the clamp lock thingy) https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/35055/ris_ii_navsea-2687722.png Well I stand corrected Keep in mind I'm not saying they have a new rail and are calling it the RIS III. Just saying the name is in line with Crane-speak. |
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Posted: 1/27/2023 8:51:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Vapor-Trail]
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Just found this story.
Crane awarded a $9.1 million contract for DD URGI barrels last year A lot of barrels Either they are cranking out new URG-I's or M855A1 is really that terrible to barrels
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Posted: 1/27/2023 9:26:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By UndrGrndPrdcts: Does anyone know if guys are still using razors, or are they largely being replaced by atacrs? I know we are seeing a lot of atacrs being used lately. I have a personal Razor on mine but we don't have anymore Razors or Atacrs in our armsroom, only Sig's now. I can't speak for others so take it for what it's worth. |
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Posted: 1/28/2023 3:53:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LsuJon: It's not in inventory anymore though. There's Mk17 with 5.56mm conversions in use. |
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Posted: 1/28/2023 6:31:25 PM EDT
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@combat_diver
Have you heard anything about further URG-I adoption? I remember a while back you mentioned the rails were noted as consumable and that the mk16 was to be thrown out and only used as supplies last. Is that still true? (I may be miss remembering cause this was awhile ago.) |
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Posted: 1/28/2023 9:16:07 PM EDT
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TX, USA
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Posted: 1/28/2023 10:07:25 PM EDT
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There is too much autism in here
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Posted: 1/28/2023 10:16:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TBone556: There is too much autism in here Details matter. Go create a block iii thread to get away from it. 
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Posted: 1/28/2023 11:42:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: doolz]
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The SureFire 4 prong isn't supposed to be aligned in any specific direction correct?
I had a Warcomp timed to 12 o'clock and got a hold of the 4 prong and it felt weird just threading it on without any need to actuate it. If this is a dumb post I apologize... legit question for the time being. ETA: Just watched a few videos.... I picked up the 4 prong from the EE but it didn't come with any shims or washer. Is the 4 prong supposed to be timed? |
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Posted: 1/29/2023 12:11:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Vapor-Trail]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By doolz: The SureFire 4 prong isn't supposed to be aligned in any specific direction correct? I had a Warcomp timed to 12 o'clock and got a hold of the 4 prong and it felt weird just threading it on without any need to actuate it. If this is a dumb post I apologize... legit question for the time being. ETA: Just watched a few videos.... I picked up the 4 prong from the EE but it didn't come with any shims or washer. Is the 4 prong supposed to be timed? Yes. Needs the same timing as other SF devices. The index tab should be bottom dead center. But in reality if you look at the thing, it doesn't really matter which way is up. Definitely need the chamfered spacer/shim at bare minimum. You can get the entire replacement shim and rocksett kits: Click Here Or Here |
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