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7/7/2025 1:42:41 AM EDT
[#1]
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Originally Posted By HD2006:
Where did everyone go

https://i.imgur.com/hLZYPVI.jpeg
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That is a great looking setup. Are you running the Badger 1.70 mount?
7/7/2025 8:27:08 AM EDT
[#2]
Do any of you know the subtensions for the EBR-7F reticle? I'm looking at replacing my nx8 with one, but wasn't sure what the BDC would be with 55gr or 77gr.
7/7/2025 9:20:55 AM EDT
[Last Edit: tacdog34][Edited] [#3]
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Originally Posted By Three0h8:
Do any of you know the subtensions for the EBR-7F reticle? I'm looking at replacing my nx8 with one, but wasn't sure what the BDC would be with 55gr or 77gr.
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Send me an email. I can send you some data and screen shots off what I have doped out to 700yds. I run the EBR-7F and EBR-7C on a couple of my 16" rifles and have dope on my 10.5" too withe the EBR-7F.

Revised:
I had dope for the EBR7F, but I replaced it with my EBR9 data for my 1-10x Razor. Sorry folks. Jumped the gun here so to speak.
7/7/2025 9:25:25 AM EDT
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Originally Posted By tacdog34:


Send me an email. I can send you some data and screen shots off what I have doped out to 700yds. I run the EBR-7F and EBR-7C on a couple of my 16" rifles and have dope on my 10.5" too withe the EBR-7F.
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Thank you! I sent you an IM with my email address.
7/7/2025 10:44:03 AM EDT
[#5]
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Originally Posted By jmh556:

That is a great looking setup. Are you running the Badger 1.70 mount?
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Originally Posted By jmh556:
Originally Posted By HD2006:
Where did everyone go

https://i.imgur.com/hLZYPVI.jpeg

That is a great looking setup. Are you running the Badger 1.70 mount?


Thanks, yeah it’s a 1.70 mount
7/7/2025 6:39:28 PM EDT
[#6]
In case anyone else is curious, here are the subtensions for the EBR-7F

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7/8/2025 12:25:15 PM EDT
[#7]
PA has blem DDC USASOC CH's back in stock.

Also an OD green model which I've never seen before. Maybe from a test batch for SOF?
7/8/2025 12:33:52 PM EDT
[#8]
Dang and I bought a new SCH on OD green for $64.99 on the sale.  I need to buy school uniforms for the kids they grew.  Why can they just stay circus midget size.
7/8/2025 12:36:31 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By aftac:
Dang and I bought a new SCH on OD green for $64.99 on the sale.  I need to buy school uniforms for the kids they grew.  Why can they just stay circus midget size.
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Hah, I did the same thing. Got the SCH and didnt notice this one until today.
7/8/2025 1:01:08 PM EDT
[#10]
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Originally Posted By the-answer-is-42:
PA has blem DDC USASOC CH's back in stock.

Also an OD green model which I've never seen before. Maybe from a test batch for SOF?
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G has sold the URGI rail and charging handle as a kit in ODG in the past.
Free men do not ask for permission.
7/9/2025 8:59:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: oldbrowndog][Edited] [#11]
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Originally Posted By -MainDisconnect-:



G has sold the URGI rail and charging handle as a kit in ODG in the past.
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I bought one in 2019 - they were really a neat combo/color. But not clone correct, so I moved them down the road. Kinda wish I hadn't.

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7/9/2025 9:13:40 AM EDT
[#12]
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Originally Posted By Three0h8:
In case anyone else is curious, here are the subtensions for the EBR-7F

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/468563/IMG_6957_png-3582197.JPG
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Awesome thanks! Just picked one of these up myself.
7/9/2025 9:55:27 AM EDT
[#13]
@Three0h8

I created a rough version of the reticle in Chairgun, this is using 2957 velocity m193 round.

7/13/2025 7:39:46 PM EDT
[#14]
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Free men do not ask for permission.
7/19/2025 7:13:20 PM EDT
[#15]
What do you call a clone correct Geissele upper on a Diemaco C8 lower?

Urg-eh?
7/19/2025 7:15:39 PM EDT
[#16]
How many photos are there of Geissele mk18 rails w/ out the steel qd inserts in the wild?

this one's not a joke
7/19/2025 9:01:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pezboytate][Edited] [#17]
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Originally Posted By Henchovinland:
How many photos are there of Geissele mk18 rails w/ out the steel qd inserts in the wild?

this one's not a joke
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Nevermind
7/20/2025 3:40:42 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WTFShane][Edited] [#18]
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Originally Posted By Henchovinland:
How many photos are there of Geissele mk18 rails w/ out the steel qd inserts in the wild?

this one's not a joke
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I know of at least one, it had a LPVO and 20 inch barrel.

7/24/2025 1:19:56 PM EDT
[#19]
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7/26/2025 5:39:29 PM EDT
[#20]
Range trip for a quick sight-in check, no POI shift

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“And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse, and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.” Revelations 19:11
7/29/2025 8:38:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 56xdx_Z][Edited] [#21]
This is my favorite urgi clone reference picture. It’s funny they upgraded from a PEQ to NGAL but still have a Weapon light from the era of Arnold Schwarzenegger movies

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I really want to clone this upper besides the vfg and weapon light though.

Also like the LT660 or adm and T2 optic setup (pic above this post is awesome). Does anyone know how well the badger C1 mounts return to zero if one wanted to keep two “clone correct” optics for the same upper?
8/24/2025 2:23:38 AM EDT
[#22]
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Originally Posted By AR-Ryan21:

Hah. Well, what have I been wrong about thus far? Mid gas? CHF? Polymer Magpul mags? Sig? EoTech? I mean, shit, there’s like hundreds (maybe even in excess of a thousand) of posts from me over the course of 5 or 6 years all over the clone threads. Feel free to go find and read them all again, if you’d like. I had referred to all of those things as the future, or the past (in EoTech’s case), and best options actually monetarily available to the military in mass. Again, did I not end up being correct 100 percent across the board? I had conversations with some of you a good five years plus ago minimum now saying that you could expect all that. The consensus from some, yourself included at times, was that I was blowing smoke. So, I must again ask, whom exactly was it that was blowing smoke? I happened to literally get everything right.

And, gotta love the Glock guys...still have their heads buried in the sand, and think the decision was solely about the bid lol. That it had nothing at all to do with the equipment itself. That one is rich, too. My stance for going on a decade now...there are two companies that I will never own a firearm from - Glock or Colt. Frankly, I at least somewhat respect Glock as a company, and know they make reliable pistols. They’re just like Colt in the sense that they seem to attract the most biased and ignorant customers, though. Neither of those companies have done anything special. Certainly not in the past half century, at least. They both have simply offered mid to above average tier reliable pistols and rifles. That’s it. Nothing special. Problem is, usually when you’re talking to a Colt or Glock guy, they’ll often be real quick to tell you that no one else does it better. That’s laughably untrue, and has long been. These threads sure needed their narrative, though. Got me thinking about some news organizations now...
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Still pushing sig??LOL
8/24/2025 8:39:45 AM EDT
[#23]
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Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z:
This is my favorite urgi clone reference picture. It’s funny they upgraded from a PEQ to NGAL but still have a Weapon light from the era of Arnold Schwarzenegger movies

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/586072/IMG_0125_jpeg-3596796.JPG

I really want to clone this upper besides the vfg and weapon light though.

Also like the LT660 or adm and T2 optic setup (pic above this post is awesome). Does anyone know how well the badger C1 mounts return to zero if one wanted to keep two “clone correct” optics for the same upper?
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C1 should have little to no shift when remounted. Mine have no movement in the pic slots when installing. Mark the nuts when torqued and then when reinstalling, tighten till the marks line up.
8/24/2025 9:25:02 PM EDT
[#24]
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Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z:
This is my favorite urgi clone reference picture. It’s funny they upgraded from a PEQ to NGAL but still have a Weapon light from the era of Arnold Schwarzenegger movies

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/586072/IMG_0125_jpeg-3596796.JPG

I really want to clone this upper besides the vfg and weapon light though.

Also like the LT660 or adm and T2 optic setup (pic above this post is awesome). Does anyone know how well the badger C1 mounts return to zero if one wanted to keep two “clone correct” optics for the same upper?
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I will never understand how often I see those lights. I saw a picture today of a guy who even had a Surefire mini light on his helmet but had one of those on his rifle.
8/25/2025 5:55:08 PM EDT
[#25]
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Originally Posted By Joedirt199:


C1 should have little to no shift when remounted. Mine have no movement in the pic slots when installing. Mark the nuts when torqued and then when reinstalling, tighten till the marks line up.
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Thanks, good to know, sounds like the geissele mounts
8/25/2025 5:58:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 56xdx_Z][Edited] [#26]
Magpul MBUS PRO 45 degree sights on the URGI may be clone correct

The Nightforce Brand Military Collectors Grade pack for the ATACR (the one with outside markings like they manufactured under contracts) actually include MBUS PRO 45 degree sights in their accessories pack. See: https://www.sportoptics.com/nightforce-mil-spec-atacr-1-8x24-s-vps-ussocom-kit-jq31-m630-1.html

pic spotted on 4chan, not sure if authentic
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8/25/2025 6:01:13 PM EDT
[#27]
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Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z:
Magpul MBUS PRO 45 degree sights on the URGI may be clone correct

The Nightforce Brand Military Collectors Grade pack for the ATACR (the one with outside markings like they manufactured under contracts) actually include MBUS PRO 45 degree sights in their accessories pack. See: https://www.sportoptics.com/nightforce-mil-spec-atacr-1-8x24-s-vps-ussocom-kit-jq31-m630-1.html

pic spotted on 4chan, not sure if authentic
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/586072/1755989270567753_jpg-3613812.JPG
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MBUS PRO 45 degree offset sights are an issued item.
8/25/2025 7:18:38 PM EDT
[#28]
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Originally Posted By LsuJon:
MBUS PRO 45 degree offset sights are an issued item.
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Originally Posted By LsuJon:
Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z:
Magpul MBUS PRO 45 degree sights on the URGI may be clone correct

The Nightforce Brand Military Collectors Grade pack for the ATACR (the one with outside markings like they manufactured under contracts) actually include MBUS PRO 45 degree sights in their accessories pack. See: https://www.sportoptics.com/nightforce-mil-spec-atacr-1-8x24-s-vps-ussocom-kit-jq31-m630-1.html

pic spotted on 4chan, not sure if authentic
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/586072/1755989270567753_jpg-3613812.JPG
MBUS PRO 45 degree offset sights are an issued item.


That Marine is rocking a Trijicon not NightForce.
8/25/2025 7:28:27 PM EDT
[#29]
Originally Posted By MALICIOUS2551:


That Marine is rocking a Trijicon not NightForce.
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Rotational wmx200, surefire mount, VCOG has no larue mount

Not USMC
8/26/2025 3:03:40 PM EDT
[#30]
Do we have a verified parts list for AFSPECWAR 10.3s with the MK16? I understand they may have retrofitted Block IIs and used various OSS suppressors. Any more info or recent pics?
8/26/2025 7:35:30 PM EDT
[#31]
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Originally Posted By MALICIOUS2551:


That Marine is rocking a Trijicon not NightForce.
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Originally Posted By MALICIOUS2551:
Originally Posted By LsuJon:
Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z:
Magpul MBUS PRO 45 degree sights on the URGI may be clone correct

The Nightforce Brand Military Collectors Grade pack for the ATACR (the one with outside markings like they manufactured under contracts) actually include MBUS PRO 45 degree sights in their accessories pack. See: https://www.sportoptics.com/nightforce-mil-spec-atacr-1-8x24-s-vps-ussocom-kit-jq31-m630-1.html

pic spotted on 4chan, not sure if authentic
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/586072/1755989270567753_jpg-3613812.JPG
MBUS PRO 45 degree offset sights are an issued item.


That Marine is rocking a Trijicon not NightForce.

yeah, only meant to say the magpul sights appeared in both places. But come to think of it, the VCOG 1-8x also seems to be missing from the clonerifles.com URGI parts list.

https://clonerifles.com/m4a1urgi/
8/26/2025 8:51:45 PM EDT
[#32]
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Originally Posted By WTFShane:


I know of at least one, it had a LPVO and 20 inch barrel.

https://i.redd.it/seywc5xd5qpc1.jpeg
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Any idea on the scope/mount?

This setup speaks to me and my currently unused Mk18...
8/27/2025 10:00:04 AM EDT
[#33]
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Originally Posted By Midazoslam:

Any idea on the scope/mount?

This setup speaks to me and my currently unused Mk18...
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Not sure. Hard to see.

Scope looks like something from Kahles. Mount could be Knight's.
8/28/2025 12:36:09 AM EDT
[#34]
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Originally Posted By 56xdx_Z:
Magpul MBUS PRO 45 degree sights on the URGI may be clone correct

The Nightforce Brand Military Collectors Grade pack for the ATACR (the one with outside markings like they manufactured under contracts) actually include MBUS PRO 45 degree sights in their accessories pack. See: https://www.sportoptics.com/nightforce-mil-spec-atacr-1-8x24-s-vps-ussocom-kit-jq31-m630-1.html

pic spotted on 4chan, not sure if authentic
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/586072/1755989270567753_jpg-3613812.JPG
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This is 1st SFG on a JCET in the Philippines last year
8/29/2025 1:22:09 AM EDT
[#35]
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Originally Posted By BlueDevilBrew:


This is 1st SFG on a JCET in the Philippines last year
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Originally Posted By BlueDevilBrew:


This is 1st SFG on a JCET in the Philippines last year


Originally Posted By LsuJon:
MBUS PRO 45 degree offset sights are an issued item.


Good info
8/29/2025 8:28:03 PM EDT
[#36]
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From a good friend who trained with an ODA group.
Dawgs!!!!
8/29/2025 8:33:09 PM EDT
[#37]
Originally Posted By medieval_flail:
Do we have a verified parts list for AFSPECWAR 10.3s with the MK16? I understand they may have retrofitted Block IIs and used various OSS suppressors. Any more info or recent pics?
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These guys? Most recent pics I came across of the 10.3’s used by AF, no idea about them being repurposed block II’s.  Would make sense though.
Dawgs!!!!
8/30/2025 8:58:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1Gunner][Edited] [#38]
What is the significance of the 10004xx engraving on the upper and which shop is doing a good job cloning this engraving?
8/30/2025 9:45:21 PM EDT
[#39]
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Originally Posted By 1Gunner:
What is the significance of the 10004xx engraving on the upper and which shop is doing a good job cloning this engraving?
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Arms room control for what upper belongs with which lower. You would be issued several uppers with one lower.

I think it started with the MK18s in use by the SEALs, but I could be wrong.
Why is the sky blue?
What makes the green grass grow?
8/31/2025 1:41:42 AM EDT
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De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
8/31/2025 1:42:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Combat_Diver][Edited] [#41]
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De Oppresso Liber
Iraq: 91,03,04,05,06,08,09,15,16,22,23,24&25'
Afghanistan: 09,10,11,14,17,18,19,20&21'
9/1/2025 1:42:23 PM EDT
[#42]
Went back to the T2 on my 11.5". Way lighter then the Razor 1-6. I'll stick to the LPVO (ATACR 1-8) on my 14.5.

Added the KAC 99051 front and used the built in rear sight on the Unity mount. I may pick up a magnifier but I never seem to keep those so we'll see if I do.



9/2/2025 2:41:54 PM EDT
[#43]
Can you guys tell me exactly which Vortex Razor is correct?
If you aren't representing Jesus in a way that makes people want to hang out with you, you're doing it wrong.
9/2/2025 3:11:24 PM EDT
[#44]
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Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Can you guys tell me exactly which Vortex Razor is correct?
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All of them.  

COTS and individual purchase pretty much all of the commercial variants.  

Rangers = EBR7f
9/2/2025 4:28:32 PM EDT
[#45]
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Originally Posted By india13c:


All of them.  

COTS and individual purchase pretty much all of the commercial variants.  

Rangers = EBR7f
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Originally Posted By india13c:
Originally Posted By Sputnik556:
Can you guys tell me exactly which Vortex Razor is correct?


All of them.  

COTS and individual purchase pretty much all of the commercial variants.  

Rangers = EBR7f

Thanks.
If you aren't representing Jesus in a way that makes people want to hang out with you, you're doing it wrong.
9/8/2025 9:17:45 PM EDT
[#46]
Those of you that have had both the 1-6 Razor and 1-8 ATACR, which do you prefer and why? I’ve had a 1-6 Razor in the past but have never seen the ATACR in person.
What we do in life echoes in eternity.
9/8/2025 10:01:18 PM EDT
[#47]
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Originally Posted By 03CR:
Those of you that have had both the 1-6 Razor and 1-8 ATACR, which do you prefer and why? I’ve had a 1-6 Razor in the past but have never seen the ATACR in person.
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ATACR, for me.

Better reticle, good 1x with more mag to use the better reticle, I prefer FFP, better illumination (even too bright sometimes). I've owned 1-6 Razors on 3 different occasions because I kept trying to like them. I still own both ATACR 1-8's I bought.
9/9/2025 1:29:43 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 71firebird400][Edited] [#48]
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Originally Posted By 03CR:
Those of you that have had both the 1-6 Razor and 1-8 ATACR, which do you prefer and why? I’ve had a 1-6 Razor in the past but have never seen the ATACR in person.
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The Razor was ahead of its time with its excellent  1x eye box and thin bezel. It performs especially well at low magnification but still offers 6x for PID and some extended capability. The ATACR, in my opinion, is almost the opposite. Its 1x performance is pretty mediocre, but the reticle is far superior for shooting at higher magnification, and FFP is ideal if that's how you intend to use the scope.

For that reason, I think the Razor is about perfect on a short-barrel setup—just like the Rangers use it. The ATACR, on the other hand, makes much more sense on a DMR, similar to how MARSOC runs them.

That said, the CQBSS is still king.
9/9/2025 7:42:21 AM EDT
[#49]
this thread look borked to anyone else
9/9/2025 10:23:26 AM EDT
[#50]
I forgot to mention that my URGI will likely just be used for coyote hunting. I feel it’s almost a toss up. The NF reticle is definitely nice but I feel the less cluttered Vortex mil reticle would work well also for this role. I like both reticles. I guess I’m more inclined to go after which ever one is more forgiving at high/max magnification.

Side note, we know the Rangers use the EBR-7F reticle, what about NSW?
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