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Link Posted: 3/22/2016 7:06:35 AM EST
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Funny you mention that, I had the same discussion with a local dealer here over the weekend who said the same thing. You can see in my pics that I went with the standard birdcage and the KAC bipod stud. Still, a NT4 is on my short list of suppressors so I may use one on the SAM-R at some point but I'm leaving it as is for now.

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Originally Posted By schaz42:



No need for shims, the SAM-R uses a standard A2 flashhider. The whole suppressed SAM-R thing really has to stop, it was never used in that capacity. Wikipedia is often incorrect, and is so in this regard. Same with the ARMS #17 mount for the bipod, it used a KAC Bipod Stud. Anyway, good luck with your build,



William



William


Funny you mention that, I had the same discussion with a local dealer here over the weekend who said the same thing. You can see in my pics that I went with the standard birdcage and the KAC bipod stud. Still, a NT4 is on my short list of suppressors so I may use one on the SAM-R at some point but I'm leaving it as is for now.

He's talking about this one.







Took quite a bit of hand filing to get mine to fit properly.



 
Link Posted: 3/22/2016 7:49:29 AM EST
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
He's talking about this one.

http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-xock0/products/1472/images/447/20288-2__47034.1404844566.1280.1280.jpg?c=2

Took quite a bit of hand filing to get mine to fit properly.
 
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By mxdgood84:
Originally Posted By schaz42:

No need for shims, the SAM-R uses a standard A2 flashhider. The whole suppressed SAM-R thing really has to stop, it was never used in that capacity. Wikipedia is often incorrect, and is so in this regard. Same with the ARMS #17 mount for the bipod, it used a KAC Bipod Stud. Anyway, good luck with your build,

William

William

Funny you mention that, I had the same discussion with a local dealer here over the weekend who said the same thing. You can see in my pics that I went with the standard birdcage and the KAC bipod stud. Still, a NT4 is on my short list of suppressors so I may use one on the SAM-R at some point but I'm leaving it as is for now.
He's talking about this one.

http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-xock0/products/1472/images/447/20288-2__47034.1404844566.1280.1280.jpg?c=2

Took quite a bit of hand filing to get mine to fit properly.
 

Are there pictures with these being used instead of the adapter? Never really gave the difference between the two much thought I just don't remember seeing the low profile of the bipod on a stud nut before.
Link Posted: 3/22/2016 8:05:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By mxdgood84:





Are there pictures with these being used instead of the adapter? Never really gave the difference between the two much thought I just don't remember seeing the low profile of the bipod on a stud nut before.
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Originally Posted By mxdgood84:



Originally Posted By secretwheelman:


Originally Posted By mxdgood84:


Originally Posted By schaz42:



No need for shims, the SAM-R uses a standard A2 flashhider. The whole suppressed SAM-R thing really has to stop, it was never used in that capacity. Wikipedia is often incorrect, and is so in this regard. Same with the ARMS #17 mount for the bipod, it used a KAC Bipod Stud. Anyway, good luck with your build,



William



William


Funny you mention that, I had the same discussion with a local dealer here over the weekend who said the same thing. You can see in my pics that I went with the standard birdcage and the KAC bipod stud. Still, a NT4 is on my short list of suppressors so I may use one on the SAM-R at some point but I'm leaving it as is for now.

He's talking about this one.



http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-xock0/products/1472/images/447/20288-2__47034.1404844566.1280.1280.jpg?c=2



Took quite a bit of hand filing to get mine to fit properly.

 


Are there pictures with these being used instead of the adapter? Never really gave the difference between the two much thought I just don't remember seeing the low profile of the bipod on a stud nut before.


You'll have to zoom in on these, but all of the ones I've seen have the P/N:20288.



The bipods are mounted too close to the rail to be using a P/N:98060.

















 
Link Posted: 3/22/2016 8:17:26 AM EST
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:

You'll have to zoom in on these, but all of the ones I've seen have the P/N:20288.

The bipods are mounted too close to the rail to be using a P/N:98060.

http://cdn3.volusion.com/j4enh.r2en5/v/vspfiles/photos/BCM-URG-SAMR-11.jpg?1456827038


http://www.armymarket.cz/obrazky/detail/0365_03.jpg


https://kashiyuko.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/sam-r001.jpg  
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By mxdgood84:
Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By mxdgood84:
Originally Posted By schaz42:

No need for shims, the SAM-R uses a standard A2 flashhider. The whole suppressed SAM-R thing really has to stop, it was never used in that capacity. Wikipedia is often incorrect, and is so in this regard. Same with the ARMS #17 mount for the bipod, it used a KAC Bipod Stud. Anyway, good luck with your build,

William

William

Funny you mention that, I had the same discussion with a local dealer here over the weekend who said the same thing. You can see in my pics that I went with the standard birdcage and the KAC bipod stud. Still, a NT4 is on my short list of suppressors so I may use one on the SAM-R at some point but I'm leaving it as is for now.
He's talking about this one.

http://cdn3.bigcommerce.com/s-xock0/products/1472/images/447/20288-2__47034.1404844566.1280.1280.jpg?c=2

Took quite a bit of hand filing to get mine to fit properly.
 

Are there pictures with these being used instead of the adapter? Never really gave the difference between the two much thought I just don't remember seeing the low profile of the bipod on a stud nut before.

You'll have to zoom in on these, but all of the ones I've seen have the P/N:20288.

The bipods are mounted too close to the rail to be using a P/N:98060.

http://cdn3.volusion.com/j4enh.r2en5/v/vspfiles/photos/BCM-URG-SAMR-11.jpg?1456827038


http://www.armymarket.cz/obrazky/detail/0365_03.jpg


https://kashiyuko.files.wordpress.com/2011/09/sam-r001.jpg  

Yeah you're right, looks too close to be the adapter. I do like the clean look, might have to make the switch. Did you have to fit the stud or the nut to get it to work?

On another note it does look like most of the SDM-Rs pictured here had the arms 32.
Link Posted: 3/22/2016 9:31:06 AM EST
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Originally Posted By mxdgood84:



Yeah you're right, looks too close to be the adapter. I do like the clean look, might have to make the switch. Did you have to fit the stud or the nut to get it to work?



On another note it does look like most of the SDM-Rs pictured here had the arms 32.
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The square nut that goes inside the FF RAS. Without removing some metal, there was no way it was going in.



I'm used to Geissele SMR dogbones that will slide through on their own.



 
Link Posted: 3/22/2016 1:10:52 PM EST
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
The square nut that goes inside the FF RAS. Without removing some metal, there was no way it was going in.

I'm used to Geissele SMR dogbones that will slide through on their own.
 
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By mxdgood84:

Yeah you're right, looks too close to be the adapter. I do like the clean look, might have to make the switch. Did you have to fit the stud or the nut to get it to work?

On another note it does look like most of the SDM-Rs pictured here had the arms 32.
The square nut that goes inside the FF RAS. Without removing some metal, there was no way it was going in.

I'm used to Geissele SMR dogbones that will slide through on their own.
 


Yeak mine was an extremely tight fit, I clp'd it and used a drum stick (5A in case anyone wants to know) to push it into place.

William
Link Posted: 3/22/2016 7:47:18 PM EST
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Originally Posted By schaz42:
Yeak mine was an extremely tight fit, I clp'd it and used a drum stick (5A in case anyone wants to know) to push it into place.



William
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Originally Posted By schaz42:



Originally Posted By secretwheelman:


Originally Posted By mxdgood84:



Yeah you're right, looks too close to be the adapter. I do like the clean look, might have to make the switch. Did you have to fit the stud or the nut to get it to work?



On another note it does look like most of the SDM-Rs pictured here had the arms 32.
The square nut that goes inside the FF RAS. Without removing some metal, there was no way it was going in.



I'm used to Geissele SMR dogbones that will slide through on their own.

 




Yeak mine was an extremely tight fit, I clp'd it and used a drum stick (5A in case anyone wants to know) to push it into place.



William
I filed down opposing sides and then still had to tap it into place.



At least I don't have to worry about it falling out.



 
Link Posted: 3/23/2016 7:39:57 PM EST
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Made a couple minor changes today. Pulled the tas-1 front sling mount from my mk12 mod1 in progress and thanks to Milspec, I have 100% more Colt A2 grip.












Link Posted: 3/27/2016 10:54:19 AM EST
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Just found this thread. I'm starting my SAM-R build. I've got the KAC fsgb, the lower,upper , a2 stock, FF RAS , everything except the barrel and charging handle I think. I've already contacted compass lake. They say 4-weeks on the barrel. My question is what scope are you using? Do the leupold 3-9 scopes ever come up in the EE?
Link Posted: 3/27/2016 1:16:33 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Just found this thread. I'm starting my SAM-R build. I've got the KAC fsgb, the lower,upper , a2 stock, FF RAS , everything except the barrel and charging handle I think. I've already contacted compass lake. They say 4-weeks on the barrel. My question is what scope are you using? Do the leupold 3-9 scopes ever come up in the EE?
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If you don't want to wait, Fulton Armory can get you a Criterion or Krieger finished barrel in about a week, but I understand waiting for the CLE. The 3-9 show up every once in a while, but plenty of similar variants show up too.  I found an illuminated mil-dot M3 and jumped on it.  

Pic for pic thread: although I'm not sure if this will go on a 2nd SAM-R or a Recce with a medium FF RAS or something I haven't considered yet...
Link Posted: 3/27/2016 2:15:57 PM EST
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I'm actually doing a SAM-R,SDM-R and a west coast SAM-R at the same time. I've got everything except the Sam-r barrel and Sam-r barrel from WOA. So I don't mind waiting. monday I'll order both.
Link Posted: 3/27/2016 2:31:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
I'm actually doing a SAM-R,SDM-R and a west coast SAM-R at the same time. I've got everything except the Sam-r barrel and Sam-r barrel from WOA. So I don't mind waiting. monday I'll order both.
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Ought to be quite the trio. Looking forward to seeing them
Link Posted: 3/27/2016 2:40:56 PM EST
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If someone here happens to decide to get rid of an extra KAC fsgb let me know. I'm sure I can make it worth your while. This clone addiction has gotten out of hand. I'm doing all my lowers on a mini mill and 80%'s so I can get the markings as close as possible. I'll have pics soon.
Link Posted: 3/31/2016 9:43:22 PM EST
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Do arms 22 high rings come in stock in batches or are the discontinued completely? Trying to find out if I need to search for some or just be patient for another batch.
Link Posted: 3/31/2016 10:38:00 PM EST
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Link Posted: 3/31/2016 11:02:52 PM EST
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where can we get the Knights gas block ?
Link Posted: 4/1/2016 5:45:52 AM EST
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I contacted them. Their inventory is not live. They are out of stock. I don't mind waiting. I just wanted to know if they still make them or if they are discontinued so if I see a set I know if I should jump on them or if they will be back around.
Link Posted: 4/1/2016 5:47:41 AM EST
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where can we get the Knights gas block ?
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You'll have to find someone willing to sell one which is a long shot and then expect to pay in the 700.00 range.
Link Posted: 4/1/2016 9:07:45 PM EST
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Got the barrel from WOA today. Debating on having the barrel finished black like I've seen most SDM-R's or leaving it as is.

Link Posted: 4/1/2016 9:12:03 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GaTacoma:


Got the barrel from WOA today. Debating on having the barrel finished black like I've seen most SDM-R's or leaving it as is.



http://s10.postimg.org/t10lt7yft/IMG_1863_70224.jpg
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Damn that's good.



 
Link Posted: 4/1/2016 10:08:56 PM EST
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not worth it. does anyone make something similar ?

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You'll have to find someone willing to sell one which is a long shot and then expect to pay in the 700.00 range.
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Originally Posted By BSOG1:
where can we get the Knights gas block ?

You'll have to find someone willing to sell one which is a long shot and then expect to pay in the 700.00 range.

Link Posted: 4/1/2016 11:27:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Made a couple minor changes today. Pulled the tas-1 front sling mount from my mk12 mod1 in progress and thanks to Milspec, I have 100% more Colt A2 grip.

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/FbtcJW" target="_blank">https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1679/25716386430_6c149476c8_o.jpg</a>

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/FD2HET" target="_blank">https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1641/26016959595_6c752a7017_o.jpg</a>

<a href="https://flic.kr/p/FuD5JX" target="_blank">https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1468/25922010931_e96f90f721_o.jpg</a>
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Where is he?  I haven't seen him posting lately.

Super nice build!!!!
Link Posted: 4/2/2016 12:23:08 AM EST
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Where is he?  I haven't seen him posting lately.



Super nice build!!!!
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:

Made a couple minor changes today. Pulled the tas-1 front sling mount from my mk12 mod1 in progress and thanks to Milspec, I have 100% more Colt A2 grip.



<a href="https://flic.kr/p/FbtcJW" target="_blank">https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1679/25716386430_6c149476c8_o.jpg</a>



<a href="https://flic.kr/p/FD2HET" target="_blank">https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1641/26016959595_6c752a7017_o.jpg</a>



<a href="https://flic.kr/p/FuD5JX" target="_blank">https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1468/25922010931_e96f90f721_o.jpg</a>
Where is he?  I haven't seen him posting lately.



Super nice build!!!!
Thank you, sir.



And I haven't heard from him in a while. Might need to send up a flare.



       
Originally Posted By BSOG1:


not worth it. does anyone make something similar ?




Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:


Originally Posted By BSOG1:

where can we get the Knights gas block ?


You'll have to find someone willing to sell one which is a long shot and then expect to pay in the 700.00 range.


$700
is extreme. I paid $475 for NIB. Some pay a little less, some a little
more. But expect around $500. For a SAM-R, you're gonna be close to $1K
for just the barrel, FSGB, installation of the FSGB, gas tube
and FH.

Link Posted: 4/2/2016 8:22:12 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:

I contacted them. Their inventory is not live. They are out of stock. I don't mind waiting. I just wanted to know if they still make them or if they are discontinued so if I see a set I know if I should jump on them or if they will be back around.
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:

I contacted them. Their inventory is not live. They are out of stock. I don't mind waiting. I just wanted to know if they still make them or if they are discontinued so if I see a set I know if I should jump on them or if they will be back around.
                    http://ustacticalsupply.com/arms22throwleverrings30mm.aspx   I bought from them in late december.
Link Posted: 4/2/2016 10:12:58 AM EST
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Originally Posted By GaTacoma:
Got the barrel from WOA today. Debating on having the barrel finished black like I've seen most SDM-R's or leaving it as is.

http://s10.postimg.org/t10lt7yft/IMG_1863_70224.jpg
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What scope are you running on the SAM-R? Also would a mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm with m1 turrets and mildot reticle be a good SAM-R optic? Can you put M3 turrets on a mark 4 with M1's?
Link Posted: 4/2/2016 10:33:04 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:

What scope are you running on the SAM-R? Also would a mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm with m1 turrets and mildot reticle be a good SAM-R optic? Can you put M3 turrets on a mark 4 with M1's?
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Originally Posted By GaTacoma:
Got the barrel from WOA today. Debating on having the barrel finished black like I've seen most SDM-R's or leaving it as is.

http://s10.postimg.org/t10lt7yft/IMG_1863_70224.jpg

What scope are you running on the SAM-R? Also would a mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm with m1 turrets and mildot reticle be a good SAM-R optic? Can you put M3 turrets on a mark 4 with M1's?


Can you put a LR/T on a SAM-R? Of course, you can put whatever scope you want on it, is it correct me though? No, it uses the MR/T like the Mk12 does. Alao if yiu have a M1 turrets you cannot use M3 caps afaik.

William
Link Posted: 4/2/2016 11:07:16 AM EST
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Originally Posted By schaz42:
Can you put a LR/T on a SAM-R? Of course, you can put whatever scope you want on it, is it correct me though? No, it uses the MR/T like the Mk12 does. Alao if yiu have a M1 turrets you cannot use M3 caps afaik.



William
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Originally Posted By schaz42:



Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:


Originally Posted By GaTacoma:

Got the barrel from WOA today. Debating on having the barrel finished black like I've seen most SDM-R's or leaving it as is.



http://s10.postimg.org/t10lt7yft/IMG_1863_70224.jpg


What scope are you running on the SAM-R? Also would a mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm with m1 turrets and mildot reticle be a good SAM-R optic? Can you put M3 turrets on a mark 4 with M1's?




Can you put a LR/T on a SAM-R? Of course, you can put whatever scope you want on it, is it correct me though? No, it uses the MR/T like the Mk12 does. Alao if yiu have a M1 turrets you cannot use M3 caps afaik.



William
M1's can only be swapped to m5's.



Leupold can swap m3 to m2 or vice versa.



 
Link Posted: 4/2/2016 11:22:04 AM EST
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M1's can only be swapped to m5's.

Leupold can swap m3 to m2 or vice versa.
 
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By schaz42:
Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Originally Posted By GaTacoma:
Got the barrel from WOA today. Debating on having the barrel finished black like I've seen most SDM-R's or leaving it as is.

http://s10.postimg.org/t10lt7yft/IMG_1863_70224.jpg

What scope are you running on the SAM-R? Also would a mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm with m1 turrets and mildot reticle be a good SAM-R optic? Can you put M3 turrets on a mark 4 with M1's?


Can you put a LR/T on a SAM-R? Of course, you can put whatever scope you want on it, is it correct me though? No, it uses the MR/T like the Mk12 does. Alao if yiu have a M1 turrets you cannot use M3 caps afaik.

William
M1's can only be swapped to m5's.

Leupold can swap m3 to m2 or vice versa.
 

Yes I got confused between mr/t and LR/t. So that scope I was looking at is out. That brings me back to the mark 4 2.5-8x36. T's-30a2. Those are readily available and correct for the SAM-R and mk12 no?
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Yes I got confused between mr/t and LR/t. So that scope I was looking at is out. That brings me back to the mark 4 2.5-8x36. T's-30a2. Those are readily available and correct for the SAM-R and mk12 no?
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:


Originally Posted By schaz42:


Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:


Originally Posted By GaTacoma:

Got the barrel from WOA today. Debating on having the barrel finished black like I've seen most SDM-R's or leaving it as is.



http://s10.postimg.org/t10lt7yft/IMG_1863_70224.jpg


What scope are you running on the SAM-R? Also would a mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm with m1 turrets and mildot reticle be a good SAM-R optic? Can you put M3 turrets on a mark 4 with M1's?




Can you put a LR/T on a SAM-R? Of course, you can put whatever scope you want on it, is it correct me though? No, it uses the MR/T like the Mk12 does. Alao if yiu have a M1 turrets you cannot use M3 caps afaik.



William
M1's can only be swapped to m5's.



Leupold can swap m3 to m2 or vice versa.

 


Yes I got confused between mr/t and LR/t. So that scope I was looking at is out. That brings me back to the mark 4 2.5-8x36. T's-30a2. Those are readily available and correct for the SAM-R and mk12 no?
Yessir.



 
Link Posted: 4/2/2016 2:50:46 PM EST
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nice builds.
Link Posted: 4/2/2016 3:15:20 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:

Yes I got confused between mr/t and LR/t. So that scope I was looking at is out. That brings me back to the mark 4 2.5-8x36. T's-30a2. Those are readily available and correct for the SAM-R and mk12 no?
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
Originally Posted By schaz42:
Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
Originally Posted By GaTacoma:
Got the barrel from WOA today. Debating on having the barrel finished black like I've seen most SDM-R's or leaving it as is.

http://s10.postimg.org/t10lt7yft/IMG_1863_70224.jpg

What scope are you running on the SAM-R? Also would a mark 4 LR/T 3.5-10x40mm with m1 turrets and mildot reticle be a good SAM-R optic? Can you put M3 turrets on a mark 4 with M1's?


Can you put a LR/T on a SAM-R? Of course, you can put whatever scope you want on it, is it correct me though? No, it uses the MR/T like the Mk12 does. Alao if yiu have a M1 turrets you cannot use M3 caps afaik.

William
M1's can only be swapped to m5's.

Leupold can swap m3 to m2 or vice versa.
 

Yes I got confused between mr/t and LR/t. So that scope I was looking at is out. That brings me back to the mark 4 2.5-8x36. T's-30a2. Those are readily available and correct for the SAM-R and mk12 no?


There's this one ending on ebay tomorrow that's at 810 right now.  I'm not sure how high you're willing to go and I know ebay is hit or miss but it's a legit optic from a reputable seller with free shipping.  If I was buying glass right now I'd definitely make a run at it.  

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LEUPOLD-MARK-4-MR-T-2-5-8x36mm-M2-TS-30-A2-w-Illuminated-TMR-Reticle-112633-/172145919599?hash=item2814b2466f:g:wSEAAOSwGYVW9JU~

Pic thread:
Link Posted: 4/2/2016 7:17:08 PM EST
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There was a DD M4 on eBay. Went for $400.00.
Link Posted: 4/2/2016 7:52:49 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
There was a DD M4 on eBay. Went for $400.00.
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Yup saw that too. Was planning on bidding on it but damn that's high.
Link Posted: 4/2/2016 8:14:06 PM EST
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Originally Posted By GaTacoma:


Yup saw that too. Was planning on bidding on it but damn that's high.
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
There was a DD M4 on eBay. Went for $400.00.


Yup saw that too. Was planning on bidding on it but damn that's high.

I wouldn't really know. That's the only one I've ever seen for sale but I havnt been looking long either. A FF RAS long sold for 500.00 in the EE the other day. I thought that was high. I paid 350.00 each for mine.
Link Posted: 4/2/2016 8:22:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:

I wouldn't really know. That's the only one I've ever seen for sale but I havnt been looking long either. A FF RAS long sold for 500.00 in the EE the other day. I thought that was high. I paid 350.00 each for mine.
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Originally Posted By GaTacoma:
Originally Posted By Samson-Dogg:
There was a DD M4 on eBay. Went for $400.00.


Yup saw that too. Was planning on bidding on it but damn that's high.

I wouldn't really know. That's the only one I've ever seen for sale but I havnt been looking long either. A FF RAS long sold for 500.00 in the EE the other day. I thought that was high. I paid 350.00 each for mine.


Last one on eBay went for 250.00 I believe but I don't think it was as nice cosmetically.
Link Posted: 4/4/2016 11:57:31 PM EST
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Does anybody know if the rifle Travis Haley used at Najaf was a SDM-R with an A.R.M.S. sir rail or was it just a M-16A4 with  the sir rail?http:// https://youtu.be/BDoX8UnQ4D0
Link Posted: 4/5/2016 10:21:36 AM EST
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If I remember right it was a 20" bushmaster with an arms sir rail
Link Posted: 4/5/2016 11:22:28 AM EST
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Originally Posted By blkrmycs:
Does anybody know if the rifle Travis Haley used at Najaf was a SDM-R with an A.R.M.S. sir rail or was it just a M-16A4 with  the sir rail?http:// https://youtu.be/BDoX8UnQ4D0
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I looked it up cause I was interested too

Bushmaster rifle. 20" heavy profile, standard chrome lined 1/9
ARMS 59 SIR rail
ARMS 22 med rings
ARMS 40 buis
leupold mk4 3x9x40 mil dot
Harris bipod w/ arms 32
PAQ2

Source- Travis Haley himself.posted under user name SimplyDynamic on 11/26/2008. Found it in the archives via a google search
Link Posted: 4/5/2016 1:16:09 PM EST
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I looked it up cause I was interested too

Bushmaster rifle. 20" heavy profile, standard chrome lined 1/9
ARMS 59 SIR rail
ARMS 22 med rings
ARMS 40 buis
leupold mk4 3x9x40 mil dot
Harris bipod w/ arms 32
PAQ2

Source- Travis Haley himself.posted under user name SimplyDynamic on 11/26/2008. Found it in the archives via a google search
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Originally Posted By blkrmycs:
Does anybody know if the rifle Travis Haley used at Najaf was a SDM-R with an A.R.M.S. sir rail or was it just a M-16A4 with  the sir rail?http:// https://youtu.be/BDoX8UnQ4D0


I looked it up cause I was interested too

Bushmaster rifle. 20" heavy profile, standard chrome lined 1/9
ARMS 59 SIR rail
ARMS 22 med rings
ARMS 40 buis
leupold mk4 3x9x40 mil dot
Harris bipod w/ arms 32
PAQ2

Source- Travis Haley himself.posted under user name SimplyDynamic on 11/26/2008. Found it in the archives via a google search


For anyone looking to clone that rifle, Bushmaster has that exact bbl in their web store for $150, I just picked one up for my SAM-Rish build
Link Posted: 4/5/2016 1:59:30 PM EST
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For anyone looking to clone that rifle, Bushmaster has that exact bbl in their web store for $150, I just picked one up for my SAM-Rish build
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Originally Posted By mech4matsnova:



Originally Posted By MrMitch:


Originally Posted By blkrmycs:

Does anybody know if the rifle Travis Haley used at Najaf was a SDM-R with an A.R.M.S. sir rail or was it just a M-16A4 with  the sir rail?http:// https://youtu.be/BDoX8UnQ4D0




I looked it up cause I was interested too



Bushmaster rifle. 20" heavy profile, standard chrome lined 1/9

ARMS 59 SIR rail

ARMS 22 med rings

ARMS 40 buis

leupold mk4 3x9x40 mil dot

Harris bipod w/ arms 32

PAQ2



Source- Travis Haley himself.posted under user name SimplyDynamic on 11/26/2008. Found it in the archives via a google search




For anyone looking to clone that rifle, Bushmaster has that exact bbl in their web store for $150, I just picked one up for my SAM-Rish build
If that SIR rail wasn't so expensive, I would love to build one of those.



 
Link Posted: 4/5/2016 2:52:39 PM EST
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
If that SIR rail wasn't so expensive, I would love to build one of those.
 
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Originally Posted By mech4matsnova:
Originally Posted By MrMitch:
Originally Posted By blkrmycs:
Does anybody know if the rifle Travis Haley used at Najaf was a SDM-R with an A.R.M.S. sir rail or was it just a M-16A4 with  the sir rail?http:// https://youtu.be/BDoX8UnQ4D0


I looked it up cause I was interested too

Bushmaster rifle. 20" heavy profile, standard chrome lined 1/9
ARMS 59 SIR rail
ARMS 22 med rings
ARMS 40 buis
leupold mk4 3x9x40 mil dot
Harris bipod w/ arms 32
PAQ2

Source- Travis Haley himself.posted under user name SimplyDynamic on 11/26/2008. Found it in the archives via a google search


For anyone looking to clone that rifle, Bushmaster has that exact bbl in their web store for $150, I just picked one up for my SAM-Rish build
If that SIR rail wasn't so expensive, I would love to build one of those.
 


I find that's the problem with cloning a lot of mil hardware; most of the base parts are available and reasonably priced, except one or two, and they cost twice what you have in the project if they're available at all(KAC front sight gas block).  That's why I said I was working on a SAM-Rish clone, some of the real deal parts are made of unobtanium for guys like me with limited budgets.
Link Posted: 4/5/2016 3:19:53 PM EST
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I find that's the problem with cloning a lot of mil hardware; most of the base parts are available and reasonably priced, except one or two, and they cost twice what you have in the project if they're available at all(KAC front sight gas block).  That's why I said I was working on a SAM-Rish clone, some of the real deal parts are made of unobtanium for guys like me with limited budgets.
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:

If that SIR rail wasn't so expensive, I would love to build one of those.

 




I find that's the problem with cloning a lot of mil hardware; most of the base parts are available and reasonably priced, except one or two, and they cost twice what you have in the project if they're available at all(KAC front sight gas block).  That's why I said I was working on a SAM-Rish clone, some of the real deal parts are made of unobtanium for guys like me with limited budgets.
I went all out for the SAM-R, as it's a rifle I've wanted from the first time I saw one.



When the parts were available, I fo'd.





 
Link Posted: 4/5/2016 3:34:22 PM EST
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I went all out for the SAM-R, as it's a rifle I've wanted from the first time I saw one.

When the parts were available, I fo'd.

 
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Originally Posted By mech4matsnova:
Originally Posted By secretwheelman:
If that SIR rail wasn't so expensive, I would love to build one of those.
 


I find that's the problem with cloning a lot of mil hardware; most of the base parts are available and reasonably priced, except one or two, and they cost twice what you have in the project if they're available at all(KAC front sight gas block).  That's why I said I was working on a SAM-Rish clone, some of the real deal parts are made of unobtanium for guys like me with limited budgets.
I went all out for the SAM-R, as it's a rifle I've wanted from the first time I saw one.

When the parts were available, I fo'd.

 


I'm late to the game, and parts are non existent, so I have to make do with similar type parts.
Link Posted: 4/5/2016 7:54:27 PM EST
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I'm late to the game, and parts are non existent, so I have to make do with similar type parts.
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Originally Posted By secretwheelman:


Originally Posted By mech4matsnova:


Originally Posted By secretwheelman:

If that SIR rail wasn't so expensive, I would love to build one of those.

 




I find that's the problem with cloning a lot of mil hardware; most of the base parts are available and reasonably priced, except one or two, and they cost twice what you have in the project if they're available at all(KAC front sight gas block).  That's why I said I was working on a SAM-Rish clone, some of the real deal parts are made of unobtanium for guys like me with limited budgets.
I went all out for the SAM-R, as it's a rifle I've wanted from the first time I saw one.



When the parts were available, I fo'd.



 




I'm late to the game, and parts are non existent, so I have to make do with similar type parts.
I just bought my KAC FSGB last summer.



 
Link Posted: 4/5/2016 8:34:59 PM EST
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thanks for the replies everyone.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 9:19:28 AM EST
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Bump

Most of my parts shipped yesterday.  If all goes to plan, I'm 2-3 weeks away from completion of my near clone.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 4:49:41 PM EST
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Bump

Most of my parts shipped yesterday.  If all goes to plan, I'm 2-3 weeks away from completion of my near clone.
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What parts are you going with?  What makes it "near" vs. clone?
I'm seeking an alternative to the KAC FFS, I want to get the party started and thats my last decision.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 6:03:23 PM EST
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What parts are you going with?  What makes it "near" vs. clone?
I'm seeking an alternative to the KAC FFS, I want to get the party started and thats my last decision.
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Originally Posted By mech4matsnova:
Bump

Most of my parts shipped yesterday.  If all goes to plan, I'm 2-3 weeks away from completion of my near clone.


What parts are you going with?  What makes it "near" vs. clone?
I'm seeking an alternative to the KAC FFS, I want to get the party started and thats my last decision.


I went with the AT3 tactical 12" FF due to its near identical appearance to the KAC rail at 1/2 the price, a Stag 1/9 20" HBAR, a YHM flip up gas block(due to the rarity and price of the original PRI gas blocks), a Surefire supressor brake, and my personal setup has a B5 Sopmod(gen 2) collapsible rather than the fixed stock(I have one for correctness, but prefer the B5 since this isn't a range toy it's a Piggy blaster that will get lugged through soybean fields and swamps. I'm calling it the SAM-R Mod. Charlie{Civilian}).  I got the ARMS #22 rings and surplus AN/PVS 14 mount today, but again due to cost, I'll be using a Nikon P223 in 3-9x40 until I can afford the Leupold Mk4.  It's going to look close, but it won't be exact those purists who know will be able to pick it apart.

I'm on an extreme budget so I have to make due with what I have.  It's starting to look like a SAM-R on a MK12 mod H lower.

ETA: If I can scratch together some more money, I want to get on the "I can wait" list for a LaRue MBT.
Link Posted: 4/23/2016 8:22:15 PM EST
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I went with the AT3 tactical 12" FF due to its near identical appearance to the KAC rail at 1/2 the price, a Stag 1/9 20" HBAR, a YHM flip up gas block(due to the rarity and price of the original PRI gas blocks), a Surefire supressor brake, and my personal setup has a B5 Sopmod(gen 2) collapsible rather than the fixed stock(I have one for correctness, but prefer the B5 since this isn't a range toy it's a Piggy blaster that will get lugged through soybean fields and swamps. I'm calling it the SAM-R Mod. Charlie{Civilian}).  I got the ARMS #22 rings and surplus AN/PVS 14 mount today, but again due to cost, I'll be using a Nikon P223 in 3-9x40 until I can afford the Leupold Mk4.  It's going to look close, but it won't be exact those purists who know will be able to pick it apart.



I'm on an extreme budget so I have to make due with what I have.  It's starting to look like a SAM-R on a MK12 mod H lower.



ETA: If I can scratch together some more money, I want to get on the "I can wait" list for a LaRue MBT.
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For a "near clone", that's quite the deviation.



 
Link Posted: 4/24/2016 11:28:05 PM EST
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Got the upper back from ADCO a few weeks ago and I finally got to test fire it today. Now I just need to decide on an optic.



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