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10/24/2004 7:53:32 PM EDT
Looking for a little long-range advice here.  Assuming a Lilja 20" 1X8 barrel in an AR-15, what is the recomended ammo for varminting.  Is the consensus that the Black Hills stuff is most consistant?  What are peoples experiences with their moyl coated bullets?

Thanks in advance for any advice possible.

A.J.
10/24/2004 7:59:40 PM EDT
[#1]
Black Hills is good, IMHO moly coated bullets work great in some guns, not so great in others, you have to try them in YOUR gun to find out if they have any advantage.

10/25/2004 12:34:18 PM EDT
[#2]
1:8 twist?    75grn Amax if it shoots well in your gun, should be no reason for it not to.

Other bullets to try, 60grn Nosler Balistic Tip, 55grn varieties of Hornady Vmax, Sierra BlitzKing, and Nosler Ballistic tips.

Out of those bullets SOMETHING will be accurate at ranges out to 500 yards for raining hell on varmintcong.
10/25/2004 12:43:53 PM EDT
[#3]
Looks like some testing is in order.  Thanks for the info.
10/25/2004 1:30:01 PM EDT
[#4]
Do you handload at all?

If so you might be able to save a considerable amount of money on these sorts of rounds over the retail prices for commercially loaded ammo using these bullets.

It's the only stuff I will bother to handload for.    14-18 bucks a box of 20 rounds is just a retarded amount to pay when I can essentially handload 100 rounds myself for what it would cost to buy maybe 2 boxes of the commercial stuff.
10/25/2004 2:36:11 PM EDT
[#5]
I know your right.  When I was shooting IPSC, I used to handload .45 and .38Sup. and it was the only way to go shooting that many rounds.  Problem is that I barely have time to shoot these days, much less reload.  

Thanks for the advice, but I think I'm going to stick with factory ammo for now.

A.J.
10/25/2004 2:52:19 PM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
1:8 twist?    75grn Amax if it shoots well in your gun, should be no reason for it not to.



Except it's single load only.
10/25/2004 3:53:48 PM EDT
[#7]
That blows...

I take it that it's not mag length tolerant?    I've got 1:9s on my accurized rifles so I haven't even tried 75grn Amaxes.
10/25/2004 4:26:53 PM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
That blows...

I take it that it's not mag length tolerant?  



I've tried and failed miserably (although, I'm admittedly not all that experienced of a reloader).

The crimp point ends up being quite a ways up the ogive.

I've never heard of anybody getting it to work at mag length.
10/25/2004 4:52:09 PM EDT
[#9]
How does the factory load them for their TAP line then then or do they only do a 75grn match HP round?

10/25/2004 4:52:48 PM EDT
[#10]
They use the Match HP.
10/25/2004 4:57:58 PM EDT
[#11]
Strange double tap....

10/25/2004 5:00:49 PM EDT
[#12]

Quoted:
Strange double tap....




No double tap.  I just happened to see the thread seconds after you posted.  


Brou...fastest post in the west!
10/26/2004 12:01:18 AM EDT
[#13]
Take a look at the Winchester 55gr Super-X PSP. It consistantly gives me much more dramatic results than any ballistic tip I've used on varmints.
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