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9/14/2006 7:44:09 AM EDT
I picked up a PWA Commando yesterday at a local shop and can't find any information on it at all. I used the search feature and got a couple of hits but nothing substantial.

Does anyone know much about this receiver? How can I find out a build date (pre vs post bad) etc?

The finish on it leaves much to be desired however the rifle functions very well.
9/14/2006 8:11:42 AM EDT
[#1]
PWA has gone out of business and is now Lewis Machine and Tool.

The PWA Commando receivers are very good quality and I have several as SBRs.

Generally accepted that #35,222 and below are "pre-ban" and anything above is post-ban.

The earlier ones were milled from A1 forgings and are desirable to the "retro crowd" for no other reason than they do not have the A2 reinforcements.

Hope this helps,

uxb
9/14/2006 9:06:25 AM EDT
[#2]

Quoted:


The finish on it leaves much to be desired however the rifle functions very well.



This sentence peaks my interest as the newer recievers have a somewhat nice finish, wondering the serial number range?
A1 or A2?
9/14/2006 10:28:00 AM EDT
[#3]
Never had a problem with PWA receivers and have heard good things about them.

The rifle I had in the ban days had a funky shiny finish on the PWA receiver (don’t have a better pic)



The PWA lower I have now is probably going to wind up being an SBR too at some point, that commando marking is just too cool. The finish on it is a nice even flat park like affair.






9/14/2006 11:11:35 AM EDT
[#4]
I have one also I just bought. I thought at first someone had painted mine , but after looking at others I see that they have a glossy finish to them.

9/14/2006 11:28:21 AM EDT
[#5]

Quoted:
PWA has gone out of business and is now Lewis Machine and Tool.


I just bought a new LMT upper to match one of my pre-ban PWA lowers, and I think the match is perfect! (see top rifle in pic below).  Right now, it's only got factory Colt M4 handguards, a Brownell's MAD-clone BUIS, a PRI charging handle, and a surplus A1 pistol grip.  The buttstock is a freebie I rec'd from Bushmaster years ago.



The lower rifle is my 6721.
9/14/2006 11:52:16 AM EDT
[#6]

Quoted:
Never had a problem with PWA receivers and have heard good things about them.

The rifle I had in the ban days had a funky shiny finish on the PWA receiver (don’t have a better pic)

img.photobucket.com/albums/1103/Monster11/arf/5ef3f3cc.gif




That's exactly what mine looks like including the markings save for the fact that I have a 4 digit serial number as opposed to the 2 digit number you have.

Thanks for the info guys.
9/14/2006 11:56:00 AM EDT
[#7]
That one was five digits, I just blotted out the last three digits.
9/14/2006 11:56:17 AM EDT
[#8]

Quoted:
PWA has gone out of business and is now Lewis Machine and Tool.


Sorry, gonna have to correct you on this one.  PWA was based out of Washington state.  LMT simply made the lower receivers for PWA.  Either way, the lowers are of LMT quality which is good.
9/14/2006 12:01:36 PM EDT
[#9]
Here is mine. It is alittle dirty. It looks alittle different than the ones I am seeing here.



9/14/2006 12:03:20 PM EDT
[#10]

Quoted:
That one was five digits, I just blotted out the last three digits.



Ahh....I'm sitting here looking at the rifle right now and finding that the "finish" is actually some sort of rubberized coating, which of course explains the dimples and marks in it. A small section near the trigger pin has peeled away and it looks like bare aluminum beneath it. I can't find any casting marks on the upper at all. It's the lighter shade of grey that Colt liked to use with an unmarked 11.5in barrel and a permanent 4.5 in flash hider on it. Interesting piece and 2moa accurate at 100 yards using chinasports 55gr. I know that the twist rate has to be 1-12 as I tried some M855 and was getting keyholes at 10 yards with it.
9/14/2006 3:25:44 PM EDT
[#11]
Over a dozen PWA lowers have passed through my gunsafe since 1987.  All were of superb quality and finish.  The oldest (s/n 61XX) does have a more glossy anodizing than the others, but it is certainly not any kind of sprayed-on surface coating that might peel off.  They all pretty much look like this......

9/14/2006 3:40:42 PM EDT
[#12]
PWA receivers rock!!

9/14/2006 5:00:53 PM EDT
[#13]
I love my four Commandos!
9/14/2006 6:01:13 PM EDT
[#14]

Quoted:
Over a dozen PWA lowers have passed through my gunsafe since 1987.  All were of superb quality and finish.  The oldest (s/n 61XX) does have a more glossy anodizing than the others, but it is certainly not any kind of sprayed-on surface coating that might peel off.  They all pretty much look like this......

www.hunt101.com/img/431169.JPG



This is definitely not anodizing, or at least not any type of anodizing I've ever seen. It's a SN 97XX and it's definitely "peeling" at the one location. It doesn't look like paint however as the PWA logo, Milan IL, Commando and SN are all clearly visible and stamped into the metal of the receiver itself.

I have someone that wants to swap me an assembled RRA lower for it and if time permits before I leave the AO I'll probably go that route since I'm not concerned about the retro aspect of the rifle.

Thanks again for all of the info.
9/16/2006 7:41:05 PM EDT
[#15]

Quoted:
Never had a problem with PWA receivers and have heard good things about them.

The rifle I had in the ban days had a funky shiny finish on the PWA receiver (don’t have a better pic)






ch139,

Does/did the first lower have raised lettering, or is that just the strange lighting/photo manipulation of the picture giving that impression?  
9/16/2006 8:40:07 PM EDT
[#16]
I have a PWA lower I bought specfically to SBR.  You can't beat a Form 1 with the model "commando"
9/16/2006 10:49:33 PM EDT
[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Never had a problem with PWA receivers and have heard good things about them.

The rifle I had in the ban days had a funky shiny finish on the PWA receiver (don’t have a better pic)

img.photobucket.com/albums/1103/Monster11/arf/5ef3f3cc.gif




ch139,

Does/did the first lower have raised lettering, or is that just the strange lighting/photo manipulation of the picture giving that impression?  

No raised lettering, just my shitty photography
9/20/2006 8:17:54 AM EDT
[#18]
I have a pwa commando with low 4 digit serial number. Would this be considered a green label ?

does anyone have the years made by serial number list ?

9/20/2006 12:48:17 PM EDT
[#19]

Quoted:
I have a pwa commando with low 4 digit serial number. Would this be considered a green label ?

does anyone have the years made by serial number list ?




JJKing,

Welcome to our addiction

The label color is a Colt thing,

Thats a good question as to the years of manufacture for the PWA's,

Anybody know this one?
9/20/2006 12:56:28 PM EDT
[#20]
I know that colt green label can still beconverted to full auto with a legal sear.
Is there such a thing for a pwa lower ?
9/20/2006 1:01:22 PM EDT
[#21]
If your asking if a RDIAS will fit the answer is yes.

Fearless
9/20/2006 1:03:58 PM EDT
[#22]
i though there was a cut off date that any guns made after that could not legaly be converted.

that was the diffrence between green label and blue label with colt.
9/20/2006 1:46:02 PM EDT
[#23]
Welcome to the forum.

May 1986: no more NEW machineguns for public consumption (transferable machine guns). Machine guns built prior to the 1986 ban can still be transfered to individuals where allowed by states.

A Registered Drop In Auto Sear (RDIAS) is itself considered a machine gun; no more new ones after 1986.

You can add a RDIAS to just about any AR (or have the AR modified to accept the RDIAS), but first you have to have the RDIAS. They’re almost as expensive as a registered receiver machinegun (AR type), take the same paperwork and $200 to get the tax stamp.  
9/20/2006 2:09:17 PM EDT
[#24]
I think these are very nice lowers.  Here is mine; Stag LPK and b/c, surplus Colt stock assembly, and a Colt 6520 (?) upper.  Apparent discoloration is, of course, CLP from assembly. Finish is very black, smooth, even, like an Eagle lower.



9/20/2006 3:13:21 PM EDT
[#25]
Allways have had super good luck with PWA lowers, never any problems.  Shortly after the ban started they stamped the date of MFG on the other side of the lower.  This one is 02/15/95.
9/23/2006 2:53:06 AM EDT
[#26]




Quoted:
Allways have had super good luck with PWA lowers, never any problems. Shortly after the ban started they stamped the date of MFG on the other side of the lower.  This one is 02/15/95.



So then would I be safe in assuming that the 4 digit SN coupled with the lack of stamped date indicates a "pre-ban" model? Unimportant to me here in PA but potentially useful information as I live next to the PRNJ and NY. I'm leaning towards swapping this receiver but at the same time if I can deal with someone from NJ or NY and help them get a legal AR at the same time I may go that route.
9/23/2006 10:00:48 AM EDT
[#27]
I'm no expert, but I would tend to agree with your way of thinking.  I don't think PWA made very many post ban lowers without the date of mfg stamp.  I would think that a 4 didgit ser# should put yours well before the ban started.  Just my opinion!  Good Luck, ALLONS11
9/23/2006 10:31:25 AM EDT
[#28]
PWA commando was my first AR, bought it 1 week after I graduated from highschool, 1989.

still have it and still shoot it! still love it.
9/23/2006 10:54:17 AM EDT
[#29]
I have two PWA lowers, both in the 402XX range.  Can't beat 'em!
9/24/2006 12:19:54 AM EDT
[#30]

Quoted:
I have two PWA lowers, both in the 402XX range.  Can't beat 'em!


Just checked mine, they're both 15XXX and they rock.
9/24/2006 12:28:36 AM EDT
[#31]
12,XXX  and is as good of a receiver as any I have ever owned.

If I hadnt got it from who I bought it from, I would have shipped it down the road though, it is a certified pre ban useable behind the lines, and I cant convert it to a pistol at my whim.


So it sits.........
9/24/2006 10:51:02 AM EDT
[#32]
I have 2 A2 styed lowers and one A1 styled lower. The finish on the A1 is some sort of wrinkicle paint and I barely read the serial number.  The finish on the other 2 has somewhat of a shine to it. I'll most likely sell the A1 to somebody who wants to a retro build.
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