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10/26/2012 2:37:33 PM EDT
Hi all, I'm looking for a little guidance with New York's AWB.  Specifically regarding permanent attachment of a muzzle brake.  It seems to me that there's a gray area about what constitutes a muzzle brake vs a flash suppressor.  From what I can tell - besides does it hide the flash - the only difference between a flash hider and a brake is what the manufacturer calls it (I think I heard something about the diameter of the hole at the end, too, don't exactly remember).  At least in my opinion, a muzzle device like this one http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/ARR-535 is clearly a BRAKE.  When you get into something like the Yankee Hill Phantom http://yhm.net/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=103 it's not entirely clear if Yankee Hill specifically calling it a muzzle brake is enough to satisfy the law.  I would prefer something like the Phantom over a large comp/brake like the Miculek.  Would the Phantom be okay or would I be inviting trouble?  Would I be better off with a thread protector http://www.midwayusa.com/product/181817/yankee-hill-machine-barrel-thread-protector-cap-1-2-28-standard-barrel-steel-black permanently attached to eliminate any doubt?  Does anyone in NY, NJ or elsewhere have any experience with that they could share?

Thanks
10/26/2012 2:56:27 PM EDT
[#1]
The general rule of thumb is if the hole at the end of the muzzle device has a diameter equal to the projectile, it's okay.  

If the hole is much larger than the projectile, you've got a flash hider.  

None of this is codified in law and IANL.

A thread protector on a threaded barrel violates the AWB unless it is permanently attached.
10/26/2012 3:06:16 PM EDT
[#2]
Welcome to the forum. You might have better luck posing this question in the "Hometown" section (adjacent to the "Industry" and "Equipment Exchange" buttons) where others from your locale can give input regarding what has worked for them.

Regards,GW
10/26/2012 5:02:55 PM EDT
[#3]
As a former NJ res I'm pretty well versed in the crazy laws up there.

Best rule of thumb is: open end=flash hider, closed end about size of the projectile=brake.

The last brake that the batfe ruled to be a brake is the PWS DNTC/FSC series which is close ended with flash hiding tines.
10/27/2012 8:15:32 AM EDT
[#4]
General rule of thumb I go by is if you can fit your finger in the end then it's a flash hider and not a brake.  I run the yhm phantoms and the pws fsc brakes on my rifles w/o issue.  I also know of others doin the same and the local shops using the same.  You should be good to go.  

If it specifically states it's a brake then I wouldn't worry to much about it.  Print the page for your own reference incase you ever need it
If you have to. But as long as your not committing murder I doubt anyone will question it.
10/30/2012 5:37:34 AM EDT
[#5]
Thanks all for your responses
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