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I was browsing back through my Gun Tests magazines from 2001 and saw this gem. Probably the earliest Reece (scopewise) setup I've ever seen, too bad the mount was crazy high. Back in '01, $2300 for this would've been astronomical for me. Just thought I'd share.
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Going to starr a build and was wondering when measuring the barrel is it to the tip of the actual barrel or to the end of whatever you have on the end, I.e. nuzzle brake, flash hider, etc?
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Originally Posted By tuckerman725:
Going to starr a build and was wondering when measuring the barrel is it to the tip of the actual barrel or to the end of whatever you have on the end, I.e. nuzzle brake, flash hider, etc? many thanks View Quote Legally would be the end of the MD (only if perm attached) or the crown if it's not perm'd. Technically would be at the crown regardless of MD. |
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Originally Posted By boxcuta:
Finally finished my recce build. https://s22.postimg.cc/z9cpr009d/unnamed.jpg https://www.instagram.com/korwerks/ View Quote |
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Can someone explain why "profile" is considered so important when building a RECCE? I have a 16'' SS 1:7 twist pencil profile. My thought process was shave as much weight as possible for a "all-in-one" "recon" rifle. Unloaded, mine is 8 lbs. seems like one of the lightest ones on here, which in my eyes, sounds like the ideal recce. Does profile really effect accuracy? Does the barrel move around or something if it is thinner?
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Originally Posted By Connex:
Can someone explain why "profile" is considered so important when building a RECCE? I have a 16'' SS 1:7 twist pencil profile. My thought process was shave as much weight as possible for a "all-in-one" "recon" rifle. Unloaded, mine is 8 lbs. seems like one of the lightest ones on here, which in my eyes, sounds like the ideal recce. Does profile really effect accuracy? Does the barrel move around or something if it is thinner? View Quote I use a faxon gunner barrel in mine which I like for being mobile. However it will be changed when I get a Supressor. |
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Originally Posted By Connex:
Can someone explain why "profile" is considered so important when building a RECCE? I have a 16'' SS 1:7 twist pencil profile. My thought process was shave as much weight as possible for a "all-in-one" "recon" rifle. Unloaded, mine is 8 lbs. seems like one of the lightest ones on here, which in my eyes, sounds like the ideal recce. Does profile really effect accuracy? Does the barrel move around or something if it is thinner? View Quote Take it or leave it. Your mileage may vary and I believe some mfgs have better pencil barrels then others. |
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Originally Posted By 5pt56:
If you're hell bent on keeping a thin profile barrel and actually send rounds down the pipe I would suggest being ready to change out barrels more often. I've seen pencil pro barrels open up after relatively low round count. IIRC approx 1000 rds in. Another at 1100 and another at 1400 rds. All 55gr FMJ-BT brass cased without mag dumps but with heavier rate of fire. Semi auto, unsupressed. Take it or leave it. Your mileage may vary and I believe some mfgs have better pencil barrels then others. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By 5pt56:
Originally Posted By Connex:
Can someone explain why "profile" is considered so important when building a RECCE? I have a 16'' SS 1:7 twist pencil profile. My thought process was shave as much weight as possible for a "all-in-one" "recon" rifle. Unloaded, mine is 8 lbs. seems like one of the lightest ones on here, which in my eyes, sounds like the ideal recce. Does profile really effect accuracy? Does the barrel move around or something if it is thinner? Take it or leave it. Your mileage may vary and I believe some mfgs have better pencil barrels then others. Also, a large north Texas swat team has utilized 11.5” LW barrels for years with accuracy degrading at the same rate as the government profiles. Way more than 1k rounds.... Eta: all the LW barrels i have experience with are cold hammer forged and chrome lined. A LW stainless barrel would probably suffer far greater in the accuracy department if heated up regularly |
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Originally Posted By MrWhite227D: I have been shooting lw barrels extensively for about 3 years now with probably 4k rds through 2 bcm lw 14.5”. No noticeable loss in accuracy, both shoot 69gr bthp about 1.5-2” groups and have since day one. Also, a large north Texas swat team has utilized 11.5” LW barrels for years with accuracy degrading at the same rate as the government profiles. Way more than 1k rounds.... Eta: all the LW barrels i have experience with are cold hammer forged and chrome lined. A LW stainless barrel would probably suffer far greater in the accuracy department if heated up regularly View Quote I thought that better branded barrels would hold up more significantly such as BCM( CHF) so it's really good to hear your confirmation! I appreciate it and think I'll give one of the chrome CHF ones a try. I have a VLTOR VIS-1 that needs completed. |
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Lightweight/pencil barrels have come a long way in recent years. Proper heat treat and stress relief in particular minimize stringing in modern pencil barrels.
The InrangeTV guys did a nice video comparing an original Colt SP-1 with a Faxon pencil barrel and how heating them up affects accuracy and precision: WWSD: Pencil barrel Stress & Heat Zero Testing |
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Only 1 of those really is close to a recce rifle
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Originally Posted By A_Friendly_Manatee:
Lightweight/pencil barrels have come a long way in recent years. Proper heat treat and stress relief in particular minimize stringing in modern pencil barrels. The InrangeTV guys did a nice video comparing an original Colt SP-1 with a Faxon pencil barrel and how heating them up affects accuracy and precision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTovPt4weIs View Quote Cheers |
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I have rifles with faxon 16" pencil and DD .625 (the old style gas journal). Both are impressively accurate. i may even pull the SS10x from my .308 just to test each next range day.
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Originally Posted By stagepaint:
Interesting rifle seent on IG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/219864/recce-669135.JPG View Quote |
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Looks to be complete rifle N6
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Originally Posted By M4ger:
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Originally Posted By stagepaint:
LMT Mars lower? I think that's the next lower I'm buying. Nice. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By stagepaint: Originally Posted By M4ger: https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1849/43945474884_4107c9b3dd_o.jpg LMT Mars lower? I think that's the next lower I'm buying. Nice. It is a MARS-LS with a few non-LMT items on it. Geissele SD-E KAC triggerguard VLTOR 5 position RE T2 buffer TD pistol grip It just came home with me today |
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So, this is what I’ve got coming down the pipe.
I’m planning to “improve” my current rifle. Right now, it’s a Spike’s 16” upper, gov’t profile bbl, free-floated barrel with a Leupold VX-R 1.25-4 in an ADM mount. A1 stock. On order, I have This barrel and I also jumped into the NFA game and ordered an AAC M4-2000 suppressor just today. Any suggestions for improvements? I’m keeping the existing handguard (MI) but will be changing it out in the future as funds permit. ETA: pic of the rifle as it was: Attached File |
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Originally Posted By buddyhoohaw:
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