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Posted: 10/12/2014 6:03:43 PM EDT
| I have read the sticky on this forum on pistol buffer tubes, and read some threads on this forum. I can't really decide on which buffer tube I want. I want a buffer tube that will work well with a Sig brace if I decide to get one, and still be short enough for a truck gun. I have been looking at the Phase 5 and the KAK brand. It does not have to be these two brands I listed. They are the ones that stood out the most to me in the picture thread on this forum. Which is the best for my needs? I think the Phase 5 is shorter than the KAK. Phase 5 also makes the hex tube to help stabalze the Sig brace. I do want a pistol buffer tube with a castle nut and not just the screw in type of tube. Is there any disadvantages of to short of a buffer tube? What are the advantages of the Phase 5? What are the advantages of the KAK? Is there any disadvantages of these? |
Not an expert on the pistol, but I did just finish mine. IMHO as long as it has the following; I would let the price and curb appeal drive you.
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.... Is there any disadvantages of to short of a buffer tube? What are the advantages of the Phase 5? What are the advantages of the KAK? Is there any disadvantages of these? Shorter the tube, shorter the LOP if using the brace. If using the Phase 5 Hex, the tube is shorter, but it offsets the brace so that actual overall length is about the same as KAK. LOP will be just under 12". If using standard pistol tube with brace, LOP will be more like 10.5". A little goes a long way as to comfort with shoulder fired length of pull. One advantage of KAK tube, if using a 10.5" barrel, your legal OAL will be about 26.5", so you could use a VFG if you wanted, but not so with the Hex. - OS |
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I got this Damage Industries BLEM pistol tube for Sig brace.
I have not picked up a Sig Brace because I am waiting out on the SBX brace to come out. But I through on a cane end right now and seems to shoulder well. The DI tube has a QD socket at the end as well. Uses standard endplate and castle nut. |
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Shorter the tube, shorter the LOP if using the brace. If using the Phase 5 Hex, the tube is shorter, but it offsets the brace so that actual overall length is about the same as KAK. LOP will be just under 12". If using standard pistol tube with brace, LOP will be more like 10.5". A little goes a long way as to comfort with shoulder fired length of pull. One advantage of KAK tube, if using a 10.5" barrel, your legal OAL will be about 26.5", so you could use a VFG if you wanted, but not so with the Hex. - OS Quoted:
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.... Is there any disadvantages of to short of a buffer tube? What are the advantages of the Phase 5? What are the advantages of the KAK? Is there any disadvantages of these? Shorter the tube, shorter the LOP if using the brace. If using the Phase 5 Hex, the tube is shorter, but it offsets the brace so that actual overall length is about the same as KAK. LOP will be just under 12". If using standard pistol tube with brace, LOP will be more like 10.5". A little goes a long way as to comfort with shoulder fired length of pull. One advantage of KAK tube, if using a 10.5" barrel, your legal OAL will be about 26.5", so you could use a VFG if you wanted, but not so with the Hex. - OS Is the shorter or longer LOP more comfortable? I would like to keep my over all length fairly short. I am trying for a truck gun. |
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.... Is there any disadvantages of to short of a buffer tube? What are the advantages of the Phase 5? What are the advantages of the KAK? Is there any disadvantages of these? Shorter the tube, shorter the LOP if using the brace. If using the Phase 5 Hex, the tube is shorter, but it offsets the brace so that actual overall length is about the same as KAK. LOP will be just under 12". If using standard pistol tube with brace, LOP will be more like 10.5". A little goes a long way as to comfort with shoulder fired length of pull. One advantage of KAK tube, if using a 10.5" barrel, your legal OAL will be about 26.5", so you could use a VFG if you wanted, but not so with the Hex. - OS Is the shorter or longer LOP more comfortable? I would like to keep my over all length fairly short. I am trying for a truck gun. You got an AR rifle with adjustable stock? Where do you like it? Measure LOP. - OS |
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.... Is there any disadvantages of to short of a buffer tube? What are the advantages of the Phase 5? What are the advantages of the KAK? Is there any disadvantages of these? Shorter the tube, shorter the LOP if using the brace. If using the Phase 5 Hex, the tube is shorter, but it offsets the brace so that actual overall length is about the same as KAK. LOP will be just under 12". If using standard pistol tube with brace, LOP will be more like 10.5". A little goes a long way as to comfort with shoulder fired length of pull. One advantage of KAK tube, if using a 10.5" barrel, your legal OAL will be about 26.5", so you could use a VFG if you wanted, but not so with the Hex. - OS Is the shorter or longer LOP more comfortable? I would like to keep my over all length fairly short. I am trying for a truck gun. You got an AR rifle with adjustable stock? Where do you like it? Measure LOP. - OS I get it now thanks. |
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.... Is there any disadvantages of to short of a buffer tube? What are the advantages of the Phase 5? What are the advantages of the KAK? Is there any disadvantages of these? Shorter the tube, shorter the LOP if using the brace. If using the Phase 5 Hex, the tube is shorter, but it offsets the brace so that actual overall length is about the same as KAK. LOP will be just under 12". If using standard pistol tube with brace, LOP will be more like 10.5". A little goes a long way as to comfort with shoulder fired length of pull. One advantage of KAK tube, if using a 10.5" barrel, your legal OAL will be about 26.5", so you could use a VFG if you wanted, but not so with the Hex. - OS Is the shorter or longer LOP more comfortable? I would like to keep my over all length fairly short. I am trying for a truck gun. I am average weight 5'5" and I can comfortable shoulder the standard pistol tube length extension with cane end. My nose is touching the charging handle at this point. I typically shoulder my other ARs so my nose is about ~2" away from the CH. However, if I could, I would have extended 2" to have the perfect fit for my arms. Which I might do with the KAK spacer kit and a SBX brace when it comes out. That will change from person to person based on your body build. If you have another AR with a carbine extension, just remove the stock and shoulder it. It will have similar LOP and give you the feel of shouldering a pistol tube to see if you will be able to do it. |
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Here is another option basically a copy of the KAK tube
http://www.apfarmory.com/apf-sig-tube-pistol-buffer/ |
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and yet Another option.
I have both the KAK and the Guntec tubes w/o the SB15. At 5'7" it works for me. This is the Guntec with some exercise equipment closed end rubber hand grip added. 
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Here is another option basically a copy of the KAK tube http://www.apfarmory.com/apf-sig-tube-pistol-buffer/ Wow. Saves a whole $2.01 over KAK super tube. Except not really, shipping is really high, cheapest option almost 18 clams to TN. - OS |
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