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Posted: 10/17/2008 9:21:03 AM EDT
| Can someone send me pics of the parts you polish on the trigger and hammer? |
How can you possibly Fuck Up a $15 trigger????? The single stage triggers that are included in the $70 lower parts kits, COME Fucked UP from the factory at no extra charge!! |
Come play with my $15 triggers that Bill has done and you might just change your mind. Have you ever shot a rifle with one of his triggers??? Or with anybody's triggers?? |
I guess i thought YOUR comment was humorous enough to comment on... i know i chuckled Besides, most here are rank amateurs enough to ask question and seek info.... |
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FWIW, I polished my DPMS trigger and it is smooth as glass. No grinding feeling at all now. It took me 10 minutes. You must be very gentle and not remove any metal or you could have problems. If you are not familar with a dremel I do not suggest trying it. In essence you are removing metal but yall know what I mean. |
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The SAFEST way to do this yourself is probably to get some valve honing compound and apply it to the engagement spaces on both your trigger and hammer, then work them both together-preferably in the gun but without the springs. This simulates thousands and thousands of trigger cycles and should hone the engagement surfaces to be beautifully smooth together. Or, spend the money and have a pro do it for you. Either way, "stoning" or other relatively inexact approaches are very good ways to have a very bad outcome. |
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I bought a trigger set from Bill. The first thing I did was look at it and think "I could do that". So I broke out my dremel and got to work on a stock hammer and trigger. I also did some work on the stock trigger but went a little too far because it's pull is in the 2# range. My final outcome was using Bill's trigger (his has a little piece welded on bottom of the safety end to limit travel I suppose) and my hammer. Using JP service rifle springs and a Lyman digital trigger gauge, I have a crisp 4.5-5# trigger which I am completely happy with. I didn't want any thing lighter than that. Using all of Bill's parts and the springs he sent, I come in right around 4#. It's not difficult with a little practice and something to compare to. I would not have attempted this without seeing his work first. |
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Man it sure is easy to get a rise out of some people!! First off i never said I was going to do it , I just wanted some pics of where it had been done. Iv herd Bills work is good but Is he the only man that walks the earth that can do triggers?? ![]() Looks like all I managed to do is spark an argument. (and still didnt get any pics.) Thanks
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This is pretty much what I did to my DPMS trigger. I took some valve lap compound and put it on the engagement surfaces , then dry fired the rifle 100 times. Cleaned the compound off , and put some Moly grease on... No Mo Creep. Still too damn heavy , and not a "match" trigger by any stretch , but it's better than it was to begin with. |
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sure, as long as he doesn't "accidently make his gun double or go full auto, and a ATF or snoopy police officer happen to see it and he spends a considerable amount of money to keep his ass out of "federal pound you in the ass prison" |
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Bill does great work, but on a couple of mine that he did, after a few hundred rounds, the contact surfaces became worn and started to double. This is due to the fact that most AR-15 FCG parts are case hardened, and almost any polishing at all will polish through the case. When the trigger is pulled the hammer falls, the carrier cycles, and the dissconnect holds the hammer back until it is released to reset. Then, the hammer will fall to the trigger notch. If this edge is worn, due to having the case hardening polished through, the hammer will miss the notch and fall and fire the weapon again. Thus, the weapon will fire twice. Once when the trigger is pulled, and again when it is released. Out of 6 sets that I sent to Bill, 2 double after a few hundred rounds, and 4 still work fine. I guess it is the luck of the draw, and what quality the FCG parts are. I solved the problem and went to Timney triggers in my ARs now. Regards, Scott |
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