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4/24/2016 11:34:45 PM EDT
I am looking to build a lightweight AR lower receiver, with the ultimate goal of completing a 16" barrel rifle that weighs under 4 pounds.  I have been researching polymer lowers, and was wondering if anyone has experience with different brands of polymer lowers? I am preferably looking for a stripped lower that is under 5.5 ounces but is still structurally sound.  A bonus would be the lower costing less than $100.  Anyone's thoughts on this?
4/24/2016 11:44:55 PM EDT
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Supposedly I have some Tennessee Arms poly lowers inbound - we'll see if they ever show up.  If / when they do I'm building along similar lines - trying to be under 5lbs optic mounted.
4/24/2016 11:51:34 PM EDT
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Those are pretty good quality I hear.  Did you manage to get any in the color black? I was looking but they seem to be sold out.  This will be my second AR, but this time I want to build from the ground up, instead of just customizing it.
4/24/2016 11:56:49 PM EDT
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GWACS.
4/25/2016 12:06:30 AM EDT
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Love these.
4/25/2016 1:18:03 AM EDT
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This - or even cheaper, Sabre Defense lowers at Trinity Ordnance made by CavArms, which sold their entire production line to GWACS.

(Full disclosure - I have worked for Trinity Ordnance in the past).
4/25/2016 1:20:28 AM EDT
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This - or even cheaper, Sabre Defense lowers at Trinity Ordnance made by CavArms, which sold their entire production line to GWACS.

(Full disclosure - I have worked for Trinity Ordnance in the past).
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This - or even cheaper, Sabre Defense lowers at Trinity Ordnance made by CavArms, which sold their entire production line to GWACS.

(Full disclosure - I have worked for Trinity Ordnance in the past).


How do these lowers compare to the ATI Omni or the MEAN Arms Polymer Lower?
4/25/2016 1:50:34 AM EDT
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How do these lowers compare to the ATI Omni or the MEAN Arms Polymer Lower?
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This - or even cheaper, Sabre Defense lowers at Trinity Ordnance made by Cav Arms, which sold their entire production line to GWACS.

(Full disclosure - I have worked for Trinity Ordnance in the past).


How do these lowers compare to the ATI Omni or the MEAN Arms Polymer Lower?


What the esteemable Mr Aston & I are speaking of is the Cav Arms Mk 2 plastic lower/stock, manufactured by Cav Arms for themselves & Sabre Defense, and now manufactured by GWACS.

It's a one piece plastic lower and A1 length stock.  This eliminates the common failure point of most plastic lower receivers - the weak area between the buffer tube boss and the rear takedown pin hole.

Trinity Ordnance:  http://www.trinityordnance.com/

History of Cav Arms:  http://sinistralrifleman.com/2013/01/27/history-of-the-cav-15-polymer-receiver/

GWACS:  http://www.gwacsarmory.com/

Remnants of Cav Arms:  http://www.cavmfg.com/CAV-15-MKII-Take-Down-Pins-CAVTDP.htm



The Cav Arms torture test:

4/25/2016 9:14:03 AM EDT
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They don't compare.  The Cav15 is the only polymer lower on the market that has proven itself.
4/25/2016 10:51:21 AM EDT
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Another thing to consider when reducing weight is factoring other parts, such as the buffer tube and stock.  The Cav15mkII lower is lighter because those parts are integrated into the lower.
4/25/2016 11:26:11 AM EDT
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plum crazy still around? i think new frontier armory sells one
4/25/2016 11:31:06 AM EDT
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They went "Belly Up" several years ago, as all manufacturers of plastic lowers probably will (and MANY have!)

As has been pointed out, GWACS will hold up.

I'm all about "Light Weight", BUT until someone makes a quantum leap in plastic technology they WILL fail!

My foray into plastic....


4/25/2016 12:06:32 PM EDT
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They went "Belly Up" several years ago, as all manufacturers of plastic lowers probably will (and MANY have!)

As has been pointed out, GWACS will hold up.

I'm all about "Light Weight", BUT until someone makes a quantum leap in plastic technology they WILL fail!

My foray into plastic....


<a href="http://s135.photobucket.com/user/PursuitSS/media/Postings%20photos/96af44f54853c2f774c40f4b7c380963.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/Postings%20photos/96af44f54853c2f774c40f4b7c380963.jpg</a>
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plumb crazy still around?


They went "Belly Up" several years ago, as all manufacturers of plastic lowers probably will (and MANY have!)

As has been pointed out, GWACS will hold up.

I'm all about "Light Weight", BUT until someone makes a quantum leap in plastic technology they WILL fail!

My foray into plastic....


<a href="http://s135.photobucket.com/user/PursuitSS/media/Postings%20photos/96af44f54853c2f774c40f4b7c380963.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i135.photobucket.com/albums/q125/PursuitSS/Postings%20photos/96af44f54853c2f774c40f4b7c380963.jpg</a>

Kaiser looks promising.
4/25/2016 12:09:33 PM EDT
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I bought one of EP Arm's 80% lowers in Zombie Green.  I am using it with my AR57 upper though.  I think 5.7x28 FN is low enough power that it should be easier on a poly lower than 5.56x45 NATO/.223 Rem.  Anyway no problems so far.  And I know better than to try to use my rifle as a pry bar.
4/25/2016 12:10:42 PM EDT
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For awhile I saw another Lake Havisu, AZ company producing poly lowers, and my guess is they were a remnant of Plum Crazy.
4/25/2016 1:38:12 PM EDT
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For awhile I saw another Lake Havisu, AZ company producing poly lowers, and my guess is they were a remnant of Plum Crazy.
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For awhile I saw another Lake Havisu, AZ company producing poly lowers, and my guess is they were a remnant of Plum Crazy.


You were thinking of these guys...  http://usarmsllc.com/  The appear to still be in business and yes, they were apparently affiliated with Plumcrazy.
4/25/2016 11:52:29 PM EDT
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I hate to say I cancelled my order when I found I was bumped to "1 June" if I recall for delivery.

It wasn't a lot of money but I do have things to do with it between now and then.  For now I'm taking the 'hint' and staying out of the poly lower business.  I was a Glock early adopter when people told me plastic pistols would never hold up and revolvers were still king.  I'm not a hater - just biding my time and watching for a while longer.

YMMV and good luck!

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Gads I'm getting old.
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