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Posted: 12/17/2008 9:55:01 PM EDT
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Guys, what does this mean? I see it referred to all the time and wonder what makes one preban vs post ban. I have two AR's that are like 15 years old, can you tell my serial number?
Is one more seriable than the other? thanks, MIke |
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It is in reference to the Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 - 2004. "Pre-ban" lowers/rifles could have all the attributes of a legal non-NFA rifle. The AWB neutered AR's so they couldn't have a threaded barrel, etc. (pistol grip, detachable mag. were the two allowed attributes but a threaded barrel made them non-compliant). The AWB also forbade new high-capacity magazines, except to LE/Govt.
Some states enacted similar legislation and are still under a state (vs. Federal) AWB. |
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It is in reference to the Assault Weapons Ban of 1994 - 2004. "Pre-ban" lowers/rifles could have all the attributes of a legal non-NFA rifle. The AWB neutered AR's so they couldn't have a threaded barrel, etc. (pistol grip, detachable mag. were the two allowed attributes but a threaded barrel made them non-compliant). The AWB also forbade new high-capacity magazines, except to LE/Govt. Some states enacted similar legislation and are still under a state (vs. Federal) AWB. Right. Any rifle or magazine made before Sept... uhh... 22 I believe (correct me if I'm wrong on the exact date, as that was quite a while back) of 94 was exempt from the 94 ban (grandfather clause), but stuff made during the ban had to comply with all the dumb rules. Since the 94 ban sunset in 2004, it no longer exists, so any rifles made during that ban can now be changed into "pre-ban" configuration as long as you're not in a state that has its own _state_ ban (places like the People's Republic of Kalifornia). If that's not confusing enough, high capacity magazines that were produced during the federal ban were required to be marked "restricted - government use only"... but now that the ban doesn't exist, all those magazines that are marked "restricted" are _not_ restricted anymore. Anyone can have them as long as they're not in a state that still bans them. All this is gonna get really "fun" trying to keep up with when the next ban happens. 
One other thing that might help you with "the lingo" is that during the 94-04 ban, rifles produced during that time were called "post-ban" rifles... but after that ban sunset, that left people trying to figure out what to call newly made rifles made after the end of the ban in the "pre-ban" configuration... because to call them "post-ban" would confuse people. The term that was generally settled on was "no-ban" rifles. So, at any rate, the only reason people still make any mention of a rifle or mag being "pre-ban" is so that people in states that still have bans will look at, and hopefully (in the eyes of the seller) pay a premium for those items. Ain't government great? It does _so_ much to simplify our lives. 
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One other thing that might help you with "the lingo" is that during the 94-04 ban, rifles produced during that time were called "post-ban" rifles... but after that ban sunset, that left people trying to figure out what to call newly made rifles made after the end of the ban in the "pre-ban" configuration... because to call them "post-ban" would confuse people. The term that was generally settled on was "no-ban" rifles. So, at any rate, the only reason people still make any mention of a rifle or mag being "pre-ban" is so that people in states that still have bans will look at, and hopefully (in the eyes of the seller) pay a premium for those items. Ain't government great? It does _so_ much to simplify our lives. good summary on pre-ban & post-ban. I guess the next generation once O re-enacts the ban will be "RE-BAN" |
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One other thing that might help you with "the lingo" is that during the 94-04 ban, rifles produced during that time were called "post-ban" rifles... but after that ban sunset, that left people trying to figure out what to call newly made rifles made after the end of the ban in the "pre-ban" configuration... because to call them "post-ban" would confuse people. The term that was generally settled on was "no-ban" rifles. So, at any rate, the only reason people still make any mention of a rifle or mag being "pre-ban" is so that people in states that still have bans will look at, and hopefully (in the eyes of the seller) pay a premium for those items. Ain't government great? It does _so_ much to simplify our lives. good summary on pre-ban & post-ban. I guess the next generation once O re-enacts the ban will be "RE-BAN" Can we stop all this defeatist talk of assuming there will be a new ban as if it's already a fait accompli? And O doesn't have any power to reenact the ban by himself. |
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One other thing that might help you with "the lingo" is that during the 94-04 ban, rifles produced during that time were called "post-ban" rifles... but after that ban sunset, that left people trying to figure out what to call newly made rifles made after the end of the ban in the "pre-ban" configuration... because to call them "post-ban" would confuse people. The term that was generally settled on was "no-ban" rifles. So, at any rate, the only reason people still make any mention of a rifle or mag being "pre-ban" is so that people in states that still have bans will look at, and hopefully (in the eyes of the seller) pay a premium for those items. Ain't government great? It does _so_ much to simplify our lives. good summary on pre-ban & post-ban. I guess the next generation once O re-enacts the ban will be "RE-BAN" Can we stop all this defeatist talk of assuming there will be a new ban as if it's already a fait accompli? And O doesn't have any power to reenact the ban by himself. 
He _can_ do it himself if he wants. Ever heard of an "executive order"? It's been done before, and it can be done again. *However*, he won't need to do that. The dems have - right at face value - an all but unbeatable advantage in numbers now. All they have to do to pass anything they want is vote together and sway _two_ republicans and it's all over. And we all know there are way more than 2 neocons in the republican party who will be MORE than happy to do it. Hell, they'll help 'em write it. Anyone who hasn't seen the writing on the wall is simply fooling themselves. Wake up. |
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