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5/29/2017 3:28:16 PM EDT
Looking at one of these 2 optics. Both can be had for under $400. Anyone have both? Whats your opinions?
5/29/2017 3:35:02 PM EDT
[#1]
I've never owned a Pro, but I've had M2, M3 and M4 Aimpoints.

I tried the MRO when it first came out and it just didn't work well for me..I have different strength eyes though and for some reason the larger 30 mil tubes seem to work better for me.  

Lots of people seem to love the MROs though...so, I would suggest if possible find someone with one and look through it to see if it works for you.
5/29/2017 3:41:32 PM EDT
[#2]
Have both.  Like both.

Like MRO better.  

MRO pro's
Smaller and lighter
More transparent (seems to disappear)
Off positions between each brightness setting

MRO con's
Blue tint
Slight magnification
(Neither bother me in the least)

Aimpoint pro's
Pretty much bomb proof

Aimpoint con's
Heavier
Smaller picture sight (using both eyes, not much of an issue)

So that's my opinion.

Any sighting system using both eyes is subject to vision issues.  Hands-on would definitely be much better  for evaluation.
5/29/2017 3:52:24 PM EDT
[#3]
I have a T1 right now on my go to rifle, in the past I had a comp 2 and honestly the size of the tube isn't a huge deal to me. 
5/29/2017 3:53:28 PM EDT
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Have both.  Like both.

Like MRO better.  

MRO pro's
Smaller and lighter
More transparent (seems to disappear)
Off positions between each brightness setting

MRO con's
Blue tint
Slight magnification
(Neither bother me in the least)

Aimpoint pro's
Pretty much bomb proof

Aimpoint con's
Heavier
Smaller picture sight (using both eyes, not much of an issue)

So that's my opinion.

Any sighting system using both eyes is subject to vision issues.  Hands-on would definitely be much better  for evaluation.
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The slight magnification of the MRO, does it cause any issue using irons through it?
5/29/2017 4:21:26 PM EDT
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The slight magnification of the MRO, does it cause any issue using irons through it?
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Not for me.  I have the 1/3 cowitness base, and it works great.
5/29/2017 4:54:54 PM EDT
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Not for me.  I have the 1/3 cowitness base, and it works great.
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The slight magnification of the MRO, does it cause any issue using irons through it?
Not for me.  I have the 1/3 cowitness base, and it works great.
Thanks
5/29/2017 4:58:34 PM EDT
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Looking at one of these 2 optics. Both can be had for under $400. Anyone have both? Whats your opinions?
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MRO for under $400, where?
5/29/2017 5:57:26 PM EDT
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MRO for under $400, where?
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$359 shipped on ebay. use promo code: P20MEMDAY

Picked up a geissele mount from optics planet with their 10% code. (slightly less expensive than geissele's sale)
5/29/2017 6:01:06 PM EDT
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I have a couple of pros, a T1 and an H1 and have no issues with any of them. Just bought an MRO because it was cheap though a coupon. Looking forward to comparing.
5/29/2017 6:17:57 PM EDT
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$359 shipped on ebay. use promo code: P20MEMDAY

Picked up a geissele mount from optics planet with their 10% code. (slightly less expensive than geissele's sale)
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MRO for under $400, where?
$359 shipped on ebay. use promo code: P20MEMDAY

Picked up a geissele mount from optics planet with their 10% code. (slightly less expensive than geissele's sale)
Well I do happen to have both as well as many other popular brands.

MRO over the micro for the size of the objective lens, doesn't seem like you're looking through a tube.
MRO over Pro for the weight and overall size.
MRO over M4s for same as above.
XPS-2 over MRO for the reticle.
MRO over RX-34 cause that thing is HUGE!

So really the MRO is my favorite over most.
5/29/2017 6:19:14 PM EDT
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Have both.  Like both.

Like MRO better.  

MRO pro's
Smaller and lighter
More transparent (seems to disappear)
Off positions between each brightness setting

MRO con's
Blue tint
Slight magnification
(Neither bother me in the least)

Aimpoint pro's
Pretty much bomb proof

Aimpoint con's
Heavier
Smaller picture sight (using both eyes, not much of an issue)

So that's my opinion.

Any sighting system using both eyes is subject to vision issues.  Hands-on would definitely be much better  for evaluation.
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Nicely put.
I've owned just about every Aimpoint model there is and I prefer the MRO for the reasons stated above.
Dozens of people have tried my MRO's (I own 4) at the range or a class and not a single one has complained about tint, magnification, etc. In fact, 3 of them promptly purchased MRO's for themselves.
However, to be on the safe side it's best if you have a chance to try one for yourself. It's been my experience that most of the complaints about tint, magnification, etc, disappear when actually shooting w/the optic.

Tomac
5/29/2017 6:53:17 PM EDT
[#12]
A place close to me has MRO's in stock, I'm going to try and check one out. The weight versus durability is what's put me on the fence. I am working on a lighter weight build and hate to put a heavy optic on top. I thought about swapping my T1 on the new build and slapping a Pro on the other gun. But I'm kinda wanting to try something different and get the MRO.
5/29/2017 6:59:34 PM EDT
[#13]
Love my MRO
5/29/2017 7:07:55 PM EDT
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A place close to me has MRO's in stock, I'm going to try and check one out. The weight versus durability is what's put me on the fence. I am working on a lighter weight build and hate to put a heavy optic on top. I thought about swapping my T1 on the new build and slapping a Pro on the other gun. But I'm kinda wanting to try something different and get the MRO.
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If you're worried about MRO durability/ruggedness, check out this torture test:

5/29/2017 9:28:30 PM EDT
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I just sent four EOTech's back to the law firm handling the class action suit. I haven't received my refund check and probably won't for months. I didn't wait, simply ordering four Aimpoint Pro's as replacements. $486.00 each with free shipping through Optics Planet using a discount code.

I have one Aimpoint Comp M4, 2 Aimpoint Comp M3's and now 8 PRO's 1 H-1 and 2 H-2's. To say I like Aimpoint products would be a fact. I also own several Trijicon RMR's which are great as well.

I don't think you can go wrong with any of these top tier products. Currently GunBroker has a seller (Ingus) who has great deals on red dot sights, $434.00 for a Trijicon MRO RDS with a lower 1/3 mount AND a low mount included. This will allow you to swap the RDS to your .22 rifle/pistol or 12 gauge shotgun during hunting season.

Aimpoint has one distinct advantage, battery life. Turn it on and leave it on and it lasts for years. 8 to 9 years on the M4. 3 to 4 years on the other models. To me this is amazing. I grew up in the late 60's and early 70's. Batteries didn't last past Christmas eve if you had been playing with something since the morning.
5/29/2017 10:35:56 PM EDT
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Have both.  Like both.

Like MRO better.  

MRO pro's
Smaller and lighter
More transparent (seems to disappear)
Off positions between each brightness setting

MRO con's
Blue tint
Slight magnification
(Neither bother me in the least)

Aimpoint pro's
Pretty much bomb proof

Aimpoint con's
Heavier
Smaller picture sight (using both eyes, not much of an issue)

So that's my opinion.

Any sighting system using both eyes is subject to vision issues.  Hands-on would definitely be much better  for evaluation.
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My findings too
5/29/2017 11:38:42 PM EDT
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A place close to me has MRO's in stock, I'm going to try and check one out. The weight versus durability is what's put me on the fence. I am working on a lighter weight build and hate to put a heavy optic on top. I thought about swapping my T1 on the new build and slapping a Pro on the other gun. But I'm kinda wanting to try something different and get the MRO.
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MRO with BAD Mount is stupid light. .78 Oz for mount, 4.1 oz for the optic alone.

The mount is quality and seems pretty sturdy despite the weight.

Downside is that it isn't QD.
5/30/2017 12:00:51 AM EDT
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I've had an MRO, an EXPS-3, an RMR and currently have a TA31. I've also used a T1 a bunch of times on a buddy's rifle.

The MRO was by far the worst optic of the 5. It was borderline unusable. The blue tint was crazy. I wish I had pictures because it wasn't even close to being clear. The dot would shift between a starburst and a blob depending on the time of day and the lighting. Those two issues combined with the magnification, which for a "1x" red dot was severe in my opinion, made the sight completely worthless. I was seeing double when shooting with both eyes open, and that doesn't even happen when I shoot with both eyes open looking through my 4x ACOG.

It was shocking to me that such a reputable company can make such a terrible sight, but I guess at that price point they had to take some cost cutting measures. My RMR was much better. The tint wasn't as severe, there was only a slight morphing and magnification around the edges of the glass when looking closely, and the dot was much clearer. I still sold that though because it was mounted on top of my ACOG and I never used it because BAC shooting works for me.

The T1 was much closer to the RMR than the MRO, except the dot was just smaller and the distortion around the edges was nonexistent. If I was ever to use a red dot as my primary optic on my go-to rifle I would probably get an Aimpoint, although I really loved the EOTech as well. I'll have an EOTech on my AR pistol when I move to a free state, but only because my go-to rifle has an ACOG.

In conclusion, I hate the MRO. You're probably better off with an Aimpoint.
5/30/2017 12:31:48 AM EDT
[#19]
MRO is dope and light.
5/30/2017 6:11:03 AM EDT
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A place close to me has MRO's in stock, I'm going to try and check one out. The weight versus durability is what's put me on the fence. I am working on a lighter weight build and hate to put a heavy optic on top. I thought about swapping my T1 on the new build and slapping a Pro on the other gun. But I'm kinda wanting to try something different and get the MRO.
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There's plenty of torture/durability test on Youtube to sum that up for you. I believe the Pro is made from extruded aluminum, while the MRO made from forged aluminum (which is known to be stronger than billet and extruding). I would say the MRO should take an impact better with the rubberized coating.

I have a MRO. I never noticed the tint or any magnification when I got it. I wasn't until after reading on this forum, when I picked it up. I hasn't bother me though.... Its my favorite RDS at the moment.
5/30/2017 9:38:07 AM EDT
[#21]
I tried very hard to drink the Trijicon koolaid, I bought 4 MRO's over a period of a couple months.  I've since sold every one of them.  I did not like the blue tint of the lens, fisheye, slight magnification, etc.  None of them gave me any trouble from a reliability standpoint, but compared to a T1 micro for me, they didn't cut it.  I have one Aimpoint pro and it's rock solid, just a little heavier and larger than a T1, however if I only had $400 to spend I'd get a PRO over an MRO anyday....or just save up another $100 and find a used T1.
5/30/2017 5:52:32 PM EDT
[#22]
Looking at an MRO locally, you may focus too much on the tint or magnification; many here say to goes away after shooting...some say it is still as bothersome.

I'd go PRO as it seems to be the safer bet.

It's bigger, heavier, the battery option isn't ideal.  But, you pretty much know what you're getting in the way of clarity, magnification, durability (MRO's are fine here).
5/30/2017 6:58:07 PM EDT
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I have 3 MRO's, traded off 2 h1's here on the EE.
Never noticed fish eye, blue tint or an sort of magnification.
Only problem I ever had was one of the trades had a dimmer dot than the others.
Contacted Trijicon and they had me send it in for warranty repairs.
I guess they could not fix cause they sent me a brand new one.
5/31/2017 7:59:08 AM EDT
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I just sent four EOTech's back to the law firm handling the class action suit. I haven't received my refund check and probably won't for months. I didn't wait, simply ordering four Aimpoint Pro's as replacements. $486.00 each with free shipping through Optics Planet using a discount code.

I have one Aimpoint Comp M4, 2 Aimpoint Comp M3's and now 8 PRO's 1 H-1 and 2 H-2's. To say I like Aimpoint products would be a fact. I also own several Trijicon RMR's which are great as well.

I don't think you can go wrong with any of these top tier products. Currently GunBroker has a seller (Ingus) who has great deals on red dot sights, $434.00 for a Trijicon MRO RDS with a lower 1/3 mount AND a low mount included. This will allow you to swap the RDS to your .22 rifle/pistol or 12 gauge shotgun during hunting season.

Aimpoint has one distinct advantage, battery life. Turn it on and leave it on and it lasts for years. 8 to 9 years on the M4. 3 to 4 years on the other models. To me this is amazing. I grew up in the late 60's and early 70's. Batteries didn't last past Christmas eve if you had been playing with something since the morning.
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Not entirely accurate when compared to the MRO. Trijicon claims 50K hrs on daylight setting 3 (of 6).
I find '3' perfect for lowlight/night time use, and '4' or '5' for daytime use. '6' is nuclear-bright, I can't envision any situation where I'd need it that bright.
Also, the MRO has a lifetime warranty, Aimpoints do not (10yrs commercial use, 2yrs professional use IIRC).

Tomac
6/3/2017 11:13:14 AM EDT
[#25]
I have both and my vote goes the the MRO. I was surprised how much I like it. It's on my back up ar but it's been great.
6/4/2017 3:36:40 PM EDT
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I don't have a PRO, but I have owned a M2 and several CompM4.  I currently own a couple of T1, CompM4S and MRO.

All told I've had five MRO.  One was returned to Trijicon because it died after a range trip.  They sent me a new replacement.  The dead MRO was a very low serial number unit (around 3000 IIRC).  The replacement had a serial number over 40000.  I currently have three on training guns.

I prefer Aimpoints, but keep the MROs because they're "cheap training optics".  The reason I prefer AP:

+ AP doesn't have a bluish tint.
+ AP doesn't "fisheye" (you will notice some distortion with the MRO).
+ I've used APs for well over 10 years and haven't had a single issue.

The positive side to the MRO (beside cost):

+ MRO's top mounted rheostat is the heat
+ MRO's rheostat has intermediate "off" and starts in the day light visible range (setting 3)...no need to spin through a bunch of NV settings
+ MRO's objective is larger than the AP T1
+ MRO doesn't use caped windage / elevation adjustments...no caps to lose like the T1

I wouldn't take a MRO into harm's way, but I wouldn't hesitate to use one as a training RDS.

ETA:  My wife's rifle has a T1.  My two go-to rifles have a CompM4S and ACOG.  The three training guns have MROs...
6/4/2017 8:26:11 PM EDT
[#27]
I have both. The MRO on my SBR, and the PRO on a 6720.

Not concerned with either optics durability.
The MRO is lighter.
The PRO isn't that bad, especially if you change out the mount at some point.

The MRO has more of a tint to me.
I prefer the PRO to look through, though the MRO works fine. I have no plans on changing it out with another PRO or to a micro model.

I would however, buy another PRO to go on a future 16" Carbine. Would probably buy another MRO to go on a future SBR.
6/5/2017 11:07:59 AM EDT
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Here's a picture from a day I was running a comparison between my CompM4S and MRO:



The AP is a superior optic.
6/5/2017 11:11:07 AM EDT
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Example of the ranges I was testing the optics at:





I was shooting 100, 150, 200 and 400 yards. I also tested inside 50 yards.

The AP wins every time.
6/5/2017 11:12:43 AM EDT
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This MRO died on this rifle after a short low-impact range trip:



Trijicon replaced the optic, but I've never trusted them as "primary quality" again.
6/5/2017 12:17:55 PM EDT
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If you're worried about MRO durability/ruggedness, check out this torture test:

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That's nothing. If you want a truly durable optic, you need an Eotech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADRt4k_cUeo
6/5/2017 12:50:26 PM EDT
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That's nothing. If you want a truly durable optic, you need an Eotech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADRt4k_cUeo
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If you're worried about MRO durability/ruggedness, check out this torture test:

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That's nothing. If you want a truly durable optic, you need an Eotech.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADRt4k_cUeo
They're so durable they delaminate on their own with range use!!
6/5/2017 12:52:05 PM EDT
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They're so durable they delaminate on their own with range use!!
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But I have a "sample of 1 YouTube video" that proves they are TOUGH!

(see my point?)
6/5/2017 3:39:05 PM EDT
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'6' is nuclear-bright, I can't envision any situation where I'd need it that bright.

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I thought the same thing until I went through a shoot house at night and a 500lumen WML.  The dot-wash was 100% when splashing light against white painted doors unless I turned it up to 6.
6/5/2017 10:42:05 PM EDT
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Example of the ranges I was testing the optics at:

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b438/garywthomas2/IMG_0508_zpsoacasvbp.jpg

http://i1043.photobucket.com/albums/b438/garywthomas2/IMG_0501_zpskpbe2g1c.jpg

I was shooting 100, 150, 200 and 400 yards. I also tested inside 50 yards.

The AP wins every time.
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Based upon what criteria? Certainly not cost (nearly 2x the cost of an MRO) and certainly not the weight (more than 2x the weight of an MRO).
6/5/2017 10:54:51 PM EDT
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The slight magnification of the MRO, does it cause any issue using irons through it?
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I have two MROs and a bunch of Aimpoints - 30mm tubes as well as Micros.

The blue tint and slight magnification is a little offsetting to me.  Don't have any plans to get rid of the MROs yet, though.
6/5/2017 10:57:59 PM EDT
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I was seeing double when shooting with both eyes open, and that doesn't even happen when I shoot with both eyes open looking through my 4x ACOG.
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I noticed this as well.

I can live with it, but don't like it.
6/6/2017 1:17:47 AM EDT
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I can live with it, but don't like it.
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I was seeing double when shooting with both eyes open, and that doesn't even happen when I shoot with both eyes open looking through my 4x ACOG.
I noticed this as well.

I can live with it, but don't like it.
Why have to live with it when there are battle-proven options to not compromise?
6/6/2017 1:31:33 AM EDT
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I noticed this as well.

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That's the main reason I let my MROs go .... I even bought another recent production one to give another chance and had a few range sessions with it

I just can't use the trijicon with both eyes open like I can aimpoints

I still think it's a fine optic but just not for everyone
6/6/2017 2:05:44 AM EDT
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Why have to live with it when there are battle-proven options to not compromise?
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I am going to keep them on two particular rifles at this time.  As I mentioned, they are off putting, to a degree, but I have no problems hitting the target with them.
6/6/2017 9:35:51 PM EDT
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Are you claiming the PRO is battle-proven?
6/6/2017 10:13:49 PM EDT
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I've got the MRO and the Pro, and I really like the pro, but LOVE the MRO. It is much faster on target in the competitions I shoot, and much lighter.  I've used both on my 9mm Tavor, and there really is no comparison.  

I don't notice blue tint or magnification, at all, on the MRO.

I will probably sell my Pro at some point and pick up another MRO.
6/6/2017 11:51:09 PM EDT
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Why have to live with it when there are battle-proven options to not compromise?
Are you claiming the PRO is battle-proven?
The comp 2 and 3 seem to be; the Pro is very similar but was speaking more of Aimpoint in general. Add the variable reviews from MRO users and Trijicon's spotted history with RDS's, an Aimpoint seems to be a safer choice.
6/6/2017 11:52:04 PM EDT
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Yeah I've never seen a PRO on a service rifle. I'm Air Force and all the SecFo rifles have either Acogs or M68. It was the same in the desert, even with the army guys.
6/7/2017 8:29:01 AM EDT
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The comp 2 and 3 seem to be; the Pro is very similar but was speaking more of Aimpoint in general. Add the variable reviews from MRO users and Trijicon's spotted history with RDS's, an Aimpoint seems to be a safer choice.
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Perhaps, but this is a 'PRO vs MRO' thread, not 'Aimpoint vs MRO' thread. There's a reason the PRO is so much cheaper than the 'battle-proven' Aimpoints, you can't get something for nothing.
6/7/2017 10:52:12 AM EDT
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Perhaps, but this is a 'PRO vs MRO' thread, not 'Aimpoint vs MRO' thread. There's a reason the PRO is so much cheaper than the 'battle-proven' Aimpoints, you can't get something for nothing.
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To be fair you can get used M2s and M3s for the $450 of the PRO. 
6/7/2017 11:10:36 AM EDT
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There's plenty of torture/durability test on Youtube to sum that up for you. I believe the Pro is made from extruded aluminum, while the MRO made from forged aluminum (which is known to be stronger than billet and extruding). I would say the MRO should take an impact better with the rubberized coating.
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Seems to me that if you get to the point where extruded vs. forged makes a difference in an optical sight, you could just tip it up and shake out the shattered glass and electronics. The tube is probably the least fragile piece of the assembly, particularly with a stubby tube like those two. If the MRO takes an impact that would have destroyed the PRO tube, it's toast too. The tube may be OK, but the sight is done.
6/12/2017 9:56:00 PM EDT
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So, which dot did you decide on OP?
6/12/2017 11:25:53 PM EDT
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If all goes well, I will be picking up a MRO tomorrow. It kinda matches the build I'm working on, a lighter weight rifle and plus I'm wanting to try some different brands than my normal goto parts. This will be my first Trijicon purchase.
6/13/2017 8:29:44 AM EDT
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Seems to me that if you get to the point where extruded vs. forged makes a difference in an optical sight, you could just tip it up and shake out the shattered glass and electronics. The tube is probably the least fragile piece of the assembly, particularly with a stubby tube like those two. If the MRO takes an impact that would have destroyed the PRO tube, it's toast too. The tube may be OK, but the sight is done.
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I get that. Both sight use low dispersion ED glass and are shockproof to keep the electronics safe. I cant see either breaking unless someone purposely trying to fuck one up. 
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