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Posted: 9/20/2009 4:01:51 PM EDT
| I just bought 4 of the new M version Pmags to add to my collection of other Pmags. I went to the range and loaded them up only to discover an interesting problem. The first thing I noticed is that the top round in the Pmag seemed looser than normal with not much tension on it against the feed lips compared to my other older Pmags and GI magazines. I didn't think much of it so I inserted the magazine into my AR15 to test the fit and then removed it. I looked at the magazine and to my surprise, the second round from top was now sitting next to the top round. What happened is, the front of the second round had jumped up at an angle and seated itself right next to the top round. I know this can happen if you have feed lips that are spread too far apart and you hit the bottom of the magazine too hard but I didn't load the magazine with any more force than usual when executing a speed reload. The same thing happens with all 4 of the new M version Pmags when I tested them. I did check the feed lip spacing on them with the back tab of the magazine cover and they checked ok. I continued the testing and fired 30 rounds through each of the 4 magazines and they worked without any other issues. My older Pmags do not have the same problem. Has anyone else experienced this same issue with their M version Pmags? |
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This happened to me 3 or 4 times, but my top round is nice and snug at the feedlips.
I just push the round back down. Never happened while it was in the gun or during shooting. Only after I take the loaded magazine out of the gun does it happen. I'm not overly concerned about it, though. |
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Another pmag issue:
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=66&t=460278 Scroll down to the photo. My guess is a deformed follower allowing the rear to tip down like the old black gi ones used to when the spring got weak. |
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Tag for more Amazing Stories™ LOL, is that like "Cool story, bro."? Because, if so, I'm not lying. I gain absolutely nothing by lying. Maybe I didn't seat all the rounds back far enough while I was loading them into the magazine. I don't know. But I do know that what the OP described has happened to me 3 times. Like I said though, I'm not overly concerned about it. |
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Olycar15 Many of the Pmag problems reported (on the board) are...... odd Indeed. With millions of PMAGs fielded I've heard my fair share of strange problems. Not to say anything about jyp1911 or BB223's issues, but quite a number of 'defective' PMAGs that are returned test out just fine here. It's just part of doing business... |
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Olycar15 Many of the Pmag problems reported (on the board) are...... odd Indeed. With millions of PMAGs fielded I've heard my fair share of strange problems. Not to say anything about jyp1911 or BB223's issues, but quite a number of 'defective' PMAGs that are returned test out just fine here. It's just part of doing business... I can understand why mags would be returned as defective and when they are returned to you there are variables that you cannot account for that may have contributed to the alleged failures. I'm sure those factors are the reason the "defective" mags check out gtg at the shop. If you want you can send those mags that are deemed bad that check out gtg to me for say $5 a mag perhaps. 
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Olycar15 Many of the Pmag problems reported (on the board) are...... odd Yes, I agree . It's always the weapon system that is the trouble when there are p-mag malfunctions, never the mag 
Go drink your cool-aid. |
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Olycar15 Many of the Pmag problems reported (on the board) are...... odd Yes, I agree . It's always the weapon system that is the trouble when there are p-mag malfunctions, never the mag
Go drink your cool-aid. This is incorrect. PMAGs DO occasionally have problems, it's just that they are pretty rare with feeding issues being the rarest of all. Miss-feeding PMAGs have a return rate of of less than 2 per 100,000... and this is with us being very accommodating with our return policy. In fact the mags mentioned in this thread are inbound to us at the moment and, may I note, are still feeding perfectly according to the owner (regardless of the second round issue). No product is infallible and with millions of PMAGs fielded you're bound to see a few problems now and again... |
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