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6/8/2016 8:04:23 PM EDT
Was at the range today and got some advice from a guy about proper breathing.

His advice was to take a nice slow deep breath for about 3 seconds, hold in for the same three seconds, exhale slowly until your lungs are empty and shoot within 2-3 seconds. He mentioned to ensure your counts are similar throughout the process and similar for different shots.

What are your proper breathing techniques?
6/8/2016 8:17:39 PM EDT
[#1]
I leave my lungs at rest when shooting at natural respiratory pauses. I definitely don't push all the air out. I don't take a huge breath and hold it. I shoot between breaths.
6/8/2016 8:18:49 PM EDT
[#2]
That is good advice for first time shooters so they don't jerk the trigger because of how they are breathing.
6/8/2016 8:24:56 PM EDT
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Inhale, exhale, hold, squeeze.  If the shot doesn't present itself within a few seconds, if you start to yearn for air, start over.  Also important is to make sure your natural point of aim is on target at the appropriate point in your breathing; there's a big difference in your posture between lungs full and lungs empty.
6/8/2016 8:30:47 PM EDT
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His advice was to take a nice slow deep breath for about 3 seconds, hold in for the same three seconds, exhale slowly until your lungs are empty and shoot within 2-3 seconds. He mentioned to ensure your counts are similar throughout the process and similar for different shots.

What are your proper breathing techniques?

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What does that accomplish physiologically that contributes to better marksmanship?  Also, can you tell us why we should exhale slowly "until your lungs are empty" instead of utilizing our natural respiratory pause?


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6/8/2016 8:39:27 PM EDT
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What does that accomplish physiologically that contributes to better marksmanship?  Also, can you tell us why we should exhale slowly "until your lungs are empty" instead of utilizing our natural respiratory pause?


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His advice was to take a nice slow deep breath for about 3 seconds, hold in for the same three seconds, exhale slowly until your lungs are empty and shoot within 2-3 seconds. He mentioned to ensure your counts are similar throughout the process and similar for different shots.

What are your proper breathing techniques?




What does that accomplish physiologically that contributes to better marksmanship?  Also, can you tell us why we should exhale slowly "until your lungs are empty" instead of utilizing our natural respiratory pause?


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I think what he was getting at was to make sure you are breathing the same each time. As in not taking heavy breaths then slow breathes then somewhere in between. Exhaling to natural pause is what he was saying. Not breathing until every last bit of air is out of your lungs.

This was advice I received from someone. He looked at a couple of my groups and noticed I was having some vertical shift on a few of my groups and gave me some advise on my breathing.
6/8/2016 8:57:30 PM EDT
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One of the hardest things for me to do is to slow down and relax. That is why I only load 3 rounds at a time. I only shoot combat-type carbines so the purpose of rested shooting is merely to make sure the zero is as good as I can get it. However, I have to do it over if I change sights or ammo, so it really is the only shooting I do. But being aware of breathing and how it moves the POA has been beneficial to me. On one carbine I had to replace the trigger set because the stock DPMS FCG was really nasty. It's the only firearm I've put a better trigger in and it cut my 100 yd groups in half. I used an ALG-ACT Nickel Boron. I also use an Accu-Wedge in that gun. I know play between the receivers shouldn't matter but it bugged me on this scoped carbine. On the other one with red-dot, it's not a problem.
6/8/2016 9:24:35 PM EDT
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For benched or prone shooting I first make sure the rifle is in it's natural point of aim.
What I mean is whether using a bipod or bags the rifle and the sights are aligned with the center of where I am aiming and not left or right.
If I need to move the rifle left or right to align the sights during breath relax aim sight and squeeze then different stress is placed on the rifle during firing.
If the rifle needs to be brought up or down during the sequence you can control this using your arm, squeeze bag or rear or front rest if you use those.

Make sure your crosshairs or the rifle is not canted differently between shots.
After natural point of aim is done I am ready. I breath in and out to natural pause, relax, aim, sight and squeeze the trigger.
If anything causes a delay in this sequence I look away from the scope or sit up and breath naturally for a little while before I try again. If you try to take extra time during the sequence most likely your rhythm and shot will be off.

For positions other then bench or prone shooting the sequence is the same except you will need to physically hold the rifle and fire as your crosshairs or sights intersect your point of aim on the target. Since you are controlling the natural point of aim instead of a bipod or rest you will have less time to fire or accuracy will really suffer.
If you try to hold steady in any unsupported firing position then you will be less accurate in my opinion.

Just my opinion on what I have found works.
No matter if you try this method or others consistency is the key.
6/8/2016 9:31:35 PM EDT
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My heartbeat is much harder to tame and deal with than my breathing.  My heartbeat can jump my sight picture up and down a couple MOA at times.
6/8/2016 9:35:23 PM EDT
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My heartbeat is much harder to tame and deal with than my breathing.  My heartbeat can jump my sight picture up and down a couple MOA at times.
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Just my opinion but possibly a lighter hold of the rifle will usually cure this.
6/8/2016 11:45:18 PM EDT
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When I'm shooting distance, for me it's count to five while inhaling, count to five with lungs full, count to five while exhaling, count to five with lungs empty.  



A couple of times doing that I can time my heartbeat very easily, so my shot goes out between heartbeats usually on count 2 to 3 with lungs empty.
6/9/2016 1:40:24 AM EDT
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My way of shooting is to breath naturally and take my shot when I am done breathing in or breathing out. I tried doing the counts and all that stuff, but when the Army is having you shoot pop-up targets I can't exactly count to five very well when I'm swiveling my position to get a bead on a target and fire before I get to go swing around on the next pop-up.
6/9/2016 2:49:09 AM EDT
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Inhale, exhale, hold, squeeze.  If the shot doesn't present itself within a few seconds, if you start to yearn for air, start over.  Also important is to make sure your natural point of aim is on target at the appropriate point in your breathing; there's a big difference in your posture between lungs full and lungs empty.
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6/9/2016 11:43:45 AM EDT
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My way of shooting is to breath naturally and take my shot when I am done breathing in or breathing out. I tried doing the counts and all that stuff, but when the Army is having you shoot pop-up targets I can't exactly count to five very well when I'm swiveling my position to get a bead on a target and fire before I get to go swing around on the next pop-up.
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Yup breath naturally and shoot at the natural pause. If you have to take a shot quick hold your breath just long enough to get stable, shoot, then resume breathing normally. Works for me since I always shoot expert. YMMV
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