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Originally Posted By JoshAR:
Got a chance to get some of the Privi out that I have today. 1.886 MOA 10 shot: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/Joshpictures/privi75grnbcm.jpg With 16" BCM mounted with a Nightforce 1-4x, off a bi-pod, 100 yards: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v399/Joshpictures/IMG_1823.jpg Conditions, over cast 0 wind, 58 deg. I shot 4 10 shot groups that one was the best. One was a cold bore group shot with the gas system turned off (Noveskie Switch Block) I wanted to do a POI comparison. Group shown is 2nd group shot, 3rd group was downright horrid, 4th group was actually very nice with 2 rushed shots tossing the group into the 2.5 moa area. Over all, I'm happy, I hoped for better but 2 moa from Eastern Europe ammo I can live with. Molon I have a N4 Noveskie 14.5" I'll try to get out this week with it and the Privi and report back. When I do that I'll reshot the BCM with Black Hills 77 grn match and report back. Very nice rig dude. That's good shooting as well... |
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Originally Posted By vicious_cb:
Anyone get a chance to try some of the new "blue box" stuff? Is it as good as the old green box? https://www.aimsurplus.com/EOS/images/product/ap223hp75.jpg I wish Molon do do a test with some brand new stock of the blue-box stuff. I swear I get pretty drastic results from different lots of the blue stuff and the green stuff. Same day, same range, same gun. Not a lot of consistency there. Unlike a FGGM SMK, where I get pretty darn consistent results. |
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Originally Posted By Molon:
Originally Posted By JoshAR:
Originally Posted By Jitterbug:
Quick question Josh, which barrel do you have on your BCM? BFH 16" mid-length with a Noveske switch block for a gas block, a Blackout flash suppressor and SWS free float rail. Maybe I missed it, but are the groups pictured fired with or without the suppressor? Molon sorry I didn't see this post earlier, didn't mean to leave a question un answered. All shooting done with OUT the suppressor. |
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Originally Posted By Brahmzy:
Originally Posted By vicious_cb:
Anyone get a chance to try some of the new "blue box" stuff? Is it as good as the old green box? https://www.aimsurplus.com/EOS/images/product/ap223hp75.jpg I wish Molon do do a test with some brand new stock of the blue-box stuff. I swear I get pretty drastic results from different lots of the blue stuff and the green stuff. Same day, same range, same gun. Not a lot of consistency there. Unlike a FGGM SMK, where I get pretty darn consistent results. Any more updates with the newer ammo? Keeping this thread alive until I get a chance to hit the 200 yd range. At 100 yds I was getting decent groupings using an Eotech off of a rest. |
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Yes, like a few previous replies, I would like to keep this thread alive for a while to get some more updated reviews, especially at distance over 100.
How about this... 75gr Privi @ 700 yards! Not shooting for groups, but hitting pistol targets! I think this is the older privi? Anyone seen this video yet? Mentions he is getting pretty good results out to 400 with it. |
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Originally Posted By Eastwood123:
Yes, like a few previous replies, I would like to keep this thread alive for a while to get some more updated reviews, especially at distance over 100. How about this... 75gr Privi @ 700 yards! Not shooting for groups, but hitting pistol targets! I think this is the older privi? Anyone seen this video yet? Mentions he is getting pretty good results out to 400 with it. He did pretty damn good at 700 yards! |
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Originally Posted By Eastwood123: Yes, like a few previous replies, I would like to keep this thread alive for a while to get some more updated reviews, especially at distance over 100. How about this... 75gr Privi @ 700 yards! Not shooting for groups, but hitting pistol targets! I think this is the older privi? Anyone seen this video yet? Mentions he is getting pretty good results out to 400 with it. If your looking to get updates from Molon forget it, the trolls chased him off the site and he went over to the other site. |
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Originally Posted By iNeXile556:
Originally Posted By Eastwood123:
Yes, like a few previous replies, I would like to keep this thread alive for a while to get some more updated reviews, especially at distance over 100. How about this... 75gr Privi @ 700 yards! Not shooting for groups, but hitting pistol targets! I think this is the older privi? Anyone seen this video yet? Mentions he is getting pretty good results out to 400 with it. If your looking to get updates from Molon forget it, the trolls chased him off the site and he went over to the other site. What other site? |
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I'll have to get you guys some pictures. I've shot some of the new blue box stuff for groups. +/- 1.6 MOA for me at 100. I'm shooting a PSA 16" CHF FN barrel with a 2 stage RRA match trigger and a 1-4X Nikon M223 off a bi-pod and bench.
This was the second best ammo that I tested that day. I ran some Federal M855, AE XM193, Privi 62 grn FMJ, PMC bronze FMJ and BVAC HTM 55 grn SP. The only thing that bested it was (gasp!!) the BVAC HTM ran right to 1.2 MOA. My set-up is like Josh's. 2 MOA dot in the scope laid over 2" shoot and see targets. It's not the most precise, but it's the only scope I'm running right now. I'd like to try it out again with my Stainless 1-8 RRA, but it's set-up with irons for now. |
Molon; thanks very much for this great report. I made a 16" AR with 1:7 barrel specifically to use the 75/77gr loads, and PRVI is what I bought. This is a CMMG complete upper, 16" mid-length gas with AR FH, 'medium-contour' barrel (HBAR with slightly smaller dia. than full HBAR under the hand guard). I have a 4X ACOG on it. I was very satisfied with the set-up and the 75gr. It also shoots 62gr handloads just as well. I put an ALG-ACT trigger in it that helped a lot. Nothing special, just a 16" full-stock (M16A1) middy that I call my 'mini-rifle'.
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Originally Posted By 1saxman:
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Originally Posted By whiskerz:
Sad about Molon leaving , I enjoyed his post. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile What happened? Nothing really insidious, he was just tired of the immaturity of the tech forums. |
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Originally Posted By terrafirma:
Nice touch with pics of actual cadaver thorax. I borrowed that image from "The Visible Human Project" from the National Library of Medicine. There are tons of great images from that project. ... |
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Love Molon's work, and glad to see terminal-performance results with this load. I bought a K of this load a couple years ago and my guns liked it (especially one 20" 1:8 twist gun), but other than function & accuracy, I had no performance data on it. Can't believe I hadn't seen this thread before. 
Only problem I've had with this load is fit issues in my L5AWM magazines. With every other load I use, the Lancers are great; and with any other magazine I've tried them in, the PPU 75's work fine. But the PPU 75's in the Lancers drag in the magazines; at least in mine. |
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Originally Posted By 1saxman:
Last range trip I tried some IMI 5.56 77gr 'Razor Core' that did shoot better than the 75 gr PPU but they both are excellent ammo for the 1:7. As one would expect, since the Razor Core is loaded with the 77 grain Sierra MatchKing. It's really quite remarkable that the inexpensive PPU shot as well as it did. .. |
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Originally Posted By zoe17:
Thank Molon for this thread. Because of what I read last year I have around 30 boxes of this to use as SD rounds when I run out of TAP and Black Hills. Da nada. 
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Originally Posted By Molon:
As one would expect, since the Razor Core is loaded with the 77 grain Sierra MatchKing. It's really quite remarkable that the inexpensive PPU shot as well as it did. .. Originally Posted By Molon:
Originally Posted By 1saxman:
Last range trip I tried some IMI 5.56 77gr 'Razor Core' that did shoot better than the 75 gr PPU but they both are excellent ammo for the 1:7. As one would expect, since the Razor Core is loaded with the 77 grain Sierra MatchKing. It's really quite remarkable that the inexpensive PPU shot as well as it did. .. PRVI is generally good, dependable ammo. They have a round-nose soft point 123 gr. 7.62X39 for example that is an interesting load for home defense. It functioned fine in my AMD65 and shot to pretty much the same point at 50 yds. They now have a 69 gr load to go with the 75 gr, and I have stocked up on the 62 gr 'M855' for my 1:9 carbine. I guess I'm using quite a selection of their ammo at this time as I also have their 180 gr HP for my .40 S&W Kel Tec carbine. |
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I'm glad this thread was resurrected. When I bought my first AR in '11 I bought many, many different brands and weights of ammo to try for accuracy. Usually 100 rounds of each. I know I have 4 or 5 boxes of PPU 75 gr match somewhere in the stash but I don't believe I ever fired any of it.
I'll have to find it and try it in both 1:9 and 1:7 barrels. I do recall that my first carbine with the 1:9 didn't care for PPU 69 gr match. It loves PPU M193 though. Go figure. |
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Originally Posted By leatherface_y2k:
I do recall that my first carbine with the 1:9 didn't care for PPU 69 gr match. I didn't have great results with the PPU 69 grain Match load either. Prvi Partizan 69 grain Match 
The advertised velocity of Prvi Partizan’s 69 grain OTM load is 2855 FPS. The muzzle velocity of this load from the 20” Colt barrel was 2755 fps with a standard deviation of 14 FPS. The 69 grain Prvi bullet is slightly longer than a 69 grain Sierra MatchKing; 0.930” versus 0.890”. 
A 10-shot group fired from a distance of 100 yards from a semi-automatic AR-15 with a Krieger barrel that has a .223 Remington chamber and 1:9” twist had an extreme spread of 2.26”. 
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Very cool report. I love the stuff. Shoots great in my 16” RECCE rifle. I was banging steel at 320 yards with it the other day.
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Originally Posted By mjohn3006:
Very cool report. I love the stuff. Shoots great in my 16” RECCE rifle. I was banging steel at 320 yards with it the other day. Lilja barrel. I have a friend who uses this stuff for 3gun since it works well and cuts down on his reloading time. |
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Originally Posted By Trash_Panda:
Was the ballistics performance good or bad? Can't tell now that the photos are dead :( bluefalcon did a gel test here. I still have a little of this left and, while not nearly as accurate as the CBC 77gr OTM, it is accurate enough for what I call "repel boarders" distance, so a few mags sit around with it. The gel performance is noteworthy. |
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Not sure what is being talked about here the 77 or the 69 PPU-
But my 20" 1x9 shoots the 69 PPU match ammo great, but not the 77gr, don't know about the gel test, it's around too somewhere on U tube. |
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