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Posted: 10/25/2014 6:58:48 AM EDT
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thinking about buying ..but need some info about if the gun is original factory....
Magwell marked Colt Sporter Target .223....Has Full stock........My question is it has a 16 inch barrel...after all research and questions the only thing i can find is this model came with a 20" ..I have searched and searched and found no 16 inch info on this colt Barrel stamped 5.56 Nato 1-9 twist..i want to buy it but not if barrel has been replaced..serial number date it around 1978......seller is wanting 1000.00 for it thanks for any help |
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I am betting it is a replacement upper, not just a replacement barrel. I've seen several local ads over the years where guys have paired a Colt lower to a low rent upper assembly, and tried to pass it off as a factory built Colt rifle. If you're not opposed to a 16" barrel, I'd just buy a brand new Colt LE6920 for under $900.00 and call it a day. That way you are getting a brand new Colt rifle and know the quality level of the components. I don't mind a home built rifle, as long as I know exactly what parts are in it from top to bottom. In this case it sounds like there would be a lot of questions. Certainly not worth a $1,000.00 gamble. Honestly, if you are questioning the make of the barrel... How much do you know about the bolt carrier group, etc on this particular rifle? Besides, do you really want a 1/9 barrel over a 1/7?
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I am betting it is a replacement upper, not just a replacement barrel. I've seen several local ads over the years where guys have paired a Colt lower to a low rent upper assembly, and tried to pass it off as a factory built Colt rifle. If you're not opposed to a 16" barrel, I'd just buy a brand new Colt LE6920 for under $900.00 and call it a day. That way you are getting a brand new Colt rifle and know the quality level of the components. I don't mind a home built rifle, as long as I know exactly what parts are in it from top to bottom. In this case it sounds like there would be a lot of questions. Certainly not worth a $1,000.00 gamble. Honestly, if you are questioning the make of the barrel... How much do you know about the bolt carrier group, etc on this particular rifle? Besides, do you really want a 1/9 barrel over a 1/7? Please don't add to the 1n7 vs 1n9 BS that is so popular right now. The average shooter would never be able to tell the difference between the two. They will both stabilize 55gr bullets. A grand wasn't out of line a year ago, but right now prices have hit rock bottom, it is for sure a buyers market. 
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why buy a 35 year old rifle that has been dicked with and is not an NFA item....just get a new 6920 lol This. Absolutely zero reason to purchase that rifle that has an unknown round count and unknown modifications to it. ETA: Unless it was being sold for a ridiculously good price. $1,000 doesn't come anywhere near that qualification. |
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Please don't add to the 1n7 vs 1n9 BS that is so popular right now. The average shooter would never be able to tell the difference between the two. They will both stabilize 55gr bullets. A grand wasn't out of line a year ago, but right now prices have hit rock bottom, it is for sure a buyers market. Quoted:
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I am betting it is a replacement upper, not just a replacement barrel. I've seen several local ads over the years where guys have paired a Colt lower to a low rent upper assembly, and tried to pass it off as a factory built Colt rifle. If you're not opposed to a 16" barrel, I'd just buy a brand new Colt LE6920 for under $900.00 and call it a day. That way you are getting a brand new Colt rifle and know the quality level of the components. I don't mind a home built rifle, as long as I know exactly what parts are in it from top to bottom. In this case it sounds like there would be a lot of questions. Certainly not worth a $1,000.00 gamble. Honestly, if you are questioning the make of the barrel... How much do you know about the bolt carrier group, etc on this particular rifle? Besides, do you really want a 1/9 barrel over a 1/7? Please don't add to the 1n7 vs 1n9 BS that is so popular right now. The average shooter would never be able to tell the difference between the two. They will both stabilize 55gr bullets. A grand wasn't out of line a year ago, but right now prices have hit rock bottom, it is for sure a buyers market. Not looking to add to any BS. I am simply pointing out that the general consensus seems to be that the AR purchasing market seems to favor the 1/7 twist barrel over the 1/9 twist barrel. Whether the 1/7 offers better performance with heavy bullets at long range, or not, most folks seem to prefer the 1/7. I've even seen a fair number of folks equate a 1/9 barrel with the lower end brands. Not saying its true. But, perception has a lot to do with resale value. Resale value has a lot to do with the guns I spend my money on. My main point was that a 6920 for less than $900.00 brand new would undoubtedly be better than the rifle the OP was considering. |
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where ? my son is looking to buy a new AR-15/M4 for home and farm usage/protection. Quoted:
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No way in hell I would pay $1000 for something like that, when you can get a brand new Colt for $800 right now. where ? my son is looking to buy a new AR-15/M4 for home and farm usage/protection. PSA. 6720s for $799 |
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I am betting it is a replacement upper, not just a replacement barrel... I doubt the whole upper was replaced. A Colt Sporter would have a large front takedown pin. Were there any aftermarket uppers built with the large pin? Unless the upper is attached using an offset pin, I'd vote it was the original Colt upper with a replacement barrel. |
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the word "target" on the lower makes me think its newer than a SP2 (.311" pivot pin) or 1978, I'd recheck the number. you might have a R6530. http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/1/1e/AR15_Sporter_II_Lightweight.jpg/800px-AR15_Sporter_II_Lightweight.jpg that price does seem high, but how much will a Bushmaster resale for? The Colt R-6530 says SPORTER lightweight Cal. .223 |
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thinking about buying ..but need some info about if the gun is original factory.... Magwell marked Colt Sporter Target .223....Has Full stock........My question is it has a 16 inch barrel...after all research and questions the only thing i can find is this model came with a 20" ..I have searched and searched and found no 16 inch info on this colt Barrel stamped 5.56 Nato 1-9 twist..i want to buy it but not if barrel has been replaced..serial number date it around 1978......seller is wanting 1000.00 for it thanks for any help With the lower dating back to 1978 it is a pre ban and highly desirable in a few states...like mine for instance making it worth quite a bit of money to some people behind the lines regardless of what it has for an upper. |
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With the lower dating back to 1978 it is a pre ban and highly desirable in a few states...like mine for instance making it worth quite a bit of money to some people behind the lines regardless of what it has for an upper. It seems timing is everything. I had an unfired Colt Sporter II that I was trying to sell 7 years ago. It didn't seem like there was much demand, but it finally went to a guy in NY for $1000. Had I known and held on to it for another year, I could have sold it for double that, the day after BHO was elected. Oh well. |
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The Colt R-6530 says SPORTER lightweight Cal. .223 Quoted:
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the word "target" on the lower makes me think its newer than a SP2 (.311" pivot pin) or 1978, I'd recheck the number. you might have a R6530. http://www.imfdb.org/images/thumb/1/1e/AR15_Sporter_II_Lightweight.jpg/800px-AR15_Sporter_II_Lightweight.jpg that price does seem high, but how much will a Bushmaster resale for? The Colt R-6530 says SPORTER lightweight Cal. .223 yeah. i got a chance to look it up in "Black Rifle II" seems all the "Sporter Target's" were early '90's vintage, then ban time they were changed to "Match Target". i would definitely recheck the serial number, i just don't think it's a '78. it's that word "target" on it. and for whatever reason, even though it makes little sense, a Colt's lower can sell for very close to the same price as a complete rifle. i personally have sold 2 in the $650 range, there is a 6921 lower with "rare restricted LEO roll marks" for sale now in the EE for $850. |
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This. Absolutely zero reason to purchase that rifle that has an unknown round count and unknown modifications to it. ETA: Unless it was being sold for a ridiculously good price. $1,000 doesn't come anywhere near that qualification. Quoted:
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why buy a 35 year old rifle that has been dicked with and is not an NFA item....just get a new 6920 lol This. Absolutely zero reason to purchase that rifle that has an unknown round count and unknown modifications to it. ETA: Unless it was being sold for a ridiculously good price. $1,000 doesn't come anywhere near that qualification. And again. +1 |
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I had a Colt Sporter Target Model R6551, they have a prefix serial numbers of ST and I bought mine brand new when they first came out in 1991.
The uppers were 20" barrels government profile under the handguards, A2 carry handles, top of barrel in front of the front sight base are marked "C MP 5.56 NATO 1/7", A2 flash suppressors, except they don't have bayonet lugs. My particular lower was an early production with large pivot pin, large hammer & trigger pins, have fence around the mag release button, A2 fixed buttstock, but no protruding steel sear block in the lower receiver, the later versions had sear blocks. The Sporter Target Model replaced the former model Government Model rifle R6550 20" barrel (1991 or even late 1990), then the Target Model was replaced by the Match Target series during the start of the assault weapons ban of 1994. |
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