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2/18/2010 5:22:17 PM EDT
hey guys, im new here so not sure what forum this should go in...
Im going to start building AR's so I thought it would be a good idea to get my Federal Firearms License.  I was told that you can also purchase guns at wholesale prices, almost 30% off regular price.  Would you still get this kind of discount even if you only buy one or two rifles at a time? in other words, would I have to make a bulk purchase to see any significant discount?

thanks in advance
Alex
2/18/2010 5:27:11 PM EDT
[#1]
You pretty much have to be running a business of actually selling firearms. BATFE tightened up the rules significantly a few years ago..eliminated thousands of the hobbyist type FFLs
2/18/2010 5:42:15 PM EDT
[#2]
its so easy to get your ffl it ain't even funny........
they giving them out like candy
even to people in residential areas

2/18/2010 5:45:44 PM EDT
[#3]


Quoted:
its so easy to get your ffl it ain't even funny........
they giving them out like candy
even to people in residential areas



where the heck do you live? It's next to impossible to get an FFL where I am and it's even diffiocult for those that have them to keep them. It seems that over the last few months the ATF has racheted up the pressure on FFL's and are trying to get them shut down, especialy the small single operators and ESPECIALLY in residential areas, those will all be gone forever soon the way things going now....<><....:)

2/18/2010 5:47:46 PM EDT
[#4]
I was looking at getting my FFL also where did you go or what did you do to get the paprerwork. Everytime I google it it brings up BS FFL kits from different people and what not.
2/18/2010 5:48:25 PM EDT
[#5]
please dont think im being rude but id still like to know if i can get a good discount if i only buy one or two at a time.

thanks
2/18/2010 5:48:33 PM EDT
[#6]
it says IA right there and i'm tellin ya  i know
2 yep (two)  that run it from the house
really...........no kidding and they jusy got lic  with in the last 2 mo

2/18/2010 5:50:54 PM EDT
[#7]
Quoted:
please dont think im being rude but id still like to know if i can get a good discount if i only buy one or two at a time.

thanks


i can give you a sample (quick) that is if your quick
give me a MSRP and i'll price it   4 u  
glock440.00 and that aint even the best deal
2/18/2010 5:53:40 PM EDT
[#8]
NVM finally found the forms and such on the ATF site
2/18/2010 5:54:39 PM EDT
[#9]
Quoted:
Quoted:
please dont think im being rude but id still like to know if i can get a good discount if i only buy one or two at a time.

thanks


id can give you a sample (quick) that is if your quick
give me a MSRP and i'll price it   4 u  
glock440.00 and that aint even the best deal


so you can get this price even if you dont buy like 20 at once?

2/18/2010 5:55:30 PM EDT
[#10]
200 bucks ... are you in a city that might not let you run a biz from your house ?
2/18/2010 5:57:27 PM EDT
[#11]
Quoted:
Quoted:
Quoted:
please dont think im being rude but id still like to know if i can get a good discount if i only buy one or two at a time.

thanks


id can give you a sample (quick) that is if your quick
give me a MSRP and i'll price it   4 u  
glock440.00 and that aint even the best deal


so you can get this price even if you dont buy like 20 at once?


5 / 10 or more 407. and not more than 2 er 3 of any one model (say like you can't buy 5 of all the same )

2/18/2010 5:59:00 PM EDT
[#12]
Getting an FFL to get cheaper guns is a sucker's game.  The hassles involved in getting and maintaining the license, the difficulty establishing relationships with wholesalers, and the overall hassle involved with just doing business is not a good deal.  Yes, I have done it.  No, I didn't "make out" in any way.  And that was 25 years ago when not having a storefront wasn't a big deal.

If you [i]go into business and intend it to be your livelihood, then more power to you.  Do the business setup research and get the capital you'll need to even attempt to be successful.  "Kitchen table" dealers are now a very naughty word in the ATF's mind, and getting a license just to get discounts does not make them smile on you.  Sorry to burst that bubble, but that's pretty much the way it is.
2/18/2010 6:01:52 PM EDT
[#13]
shakes head..............if you want it its easy .......
it aint that bad ,whosale is so easy
go for it
2/18/2010 6:24:38 PM EDT
[#14]
If you want to assemble AR's ypu will need a manufacturers license and you will be subject to ITAR fees.  You will also need zoning approval for your business location, and also approval from your HOA if applicable.  Also be aware you are subject to inspection by BATFE, and they do conduct inspections of your listed business premises.  So if this is your residence, they will have the ability to inspect that.  Probably not going to save you any money in the long run, unless you are actually in the business of selling firearms.  Also ATF does not look highly on people using FFL's other than C&R's to further their personal collections.

So it is up to you to determine if all of this is worth it to get a discount on guns.
2/18/2010 6:30:03 PM EDT
[#15]
ya know,,,,,,,,............. ah heck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwTGGHaCHAE
2/18/2010 6:36:23 PM EDT
[#16]
Quoted:


Quoted:
its so easy to get your ffl it ain't even funny........
they giving them out like candy
even to people in residential areas



where the heck do you live? It's next to impossible to get an FFL where I am and it's even diffiocult for those that have them to keep them. It seems that over the last few months the ATF has racheted up the pressure on FFL's and are trying to get them shut down, especialy the small single operators and ESPECIALLY in residential areas, those will all be gone forever soon the way things going now....<><....:)



This is not true at all!  Not sure where you are getting your FACTS from but someone has been feeding you BS.
2/18/2010 6:41:15 PM EDT
[#17]
txgun308 is right on
it is a doable thing
2/18/2010 6:46:45 PM EDT
[#18]
Quoted:
hey guys, im new here so not sure what forum this should go in...
Im going to start building AR's so I thought it would be a good idea to get my Federal Firearms License.  I was told that you can also purchase guns at wholesale prices, almost 30% off regular price.  Would you still get this kind of discount even if you only buy one or two rifles at a time? in other words, would I have to make a bulk purchase to see any significant discount?

thanks in advance
Alex


Well which is it?  Building AR's or buying guns at wholesale prices?  Your 2 statements above involve an 01 or and 07 FFL.  Let me set you straight...if you want to get your FFL you have to convince the ATF that you intend to operate as a retail business.  Selling to your best friend, brother, cousin, uncle, sister and the family dog is not going to get you an FFL.  Wanting to buy guns wholesale to improve your collection is not going to get you an FFL.  Selling guns at ONLY gun shows is NOT going to get you an FFL.  I suggest you visit the FFL forum in Armory and read, read, read, and read some more.  Ask your questions there as these guys are pretty knowledgeable and take this business very seriously.  BTW...the biggest obstacle you will face is ZONING.
2/18/2010 6:56:38 PM EDT
[#19]
Well short of driving you around to each  ffl's place and having you talk to / with them,

it a little hard to convince you of the real world.



anyway the 82airb might be chopping me out of here after reading these posts

Ya know if you write to the atf batfe and get a copy of ALL F F L ' S

then look up the issue dates and look up all the locations

a (near 90,000 location task) you'll be as informed as most , maybe

even a little more informed.

I have found  those with FFL's don't seam to want anybody else having one,

shame shame..........

ok ok there is nothing i can do but  say go for it OP er

just here to BE HELPFULL! all bs aside

2/18/2010 7:25:48 PM EDT
[#20]
thanks for all the advice.  sorry if i wasnt clear in my first post, im planning to sell them as a retail business, but build my own on the side (those i wont sell)  I guess I'll go for it, the worst they can do is deny me, right? Also, there's another dealer pretty close to me, so zoning shouldnt be an issue.
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