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Posted: 11/10/2011 9:48:07 AM EDT
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Hey guys im looking into acogs but i have a few questions
I know the tritium lasts about 10yrs but is t usable in the daylight even if the tritium goes out? Also how do they compare to something like a eotech/3x combo? |
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Ok let me clarify how does the target acquisition and engagemt of objects compare between an acog and a red dot with a 3x acogs are more like a traditional riflescope...proper eye relief, etc., but infinitely faster with the BAC FWIW, the tritium doesn't just "go out" in ten years. it has a 10-12 year half life......meaning in 10-12 years (depending on model) the tritium is half as bright. With the fiber optic models, if you have any ambient light, you will see the reticule |
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luckily for me i run NTCH and im making a M16 with A5 stock
also i know alot love acogs, this will be my first its likt i said its going on a 20" rifle, would it be better than a red dot? i know it allows for much longer range shooting, but how is CQB shooting with one? is it doable with practice? |
| yes. and a good way to practice is get the flip up caps, and close the rear cap on the acog, so when you look through, all you see is the reticle, when you shoot with both eyes open, you will not bet disoriented by the magnification, or wanting to look through the scope part. when you flip up that cap after on target, and it zooms in, you get the best understanding how you are supposed to use it. I had to show my wife this way for her to really get what i was talking about with the bindon aiming concept |
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yes. and a good way to practice is get the flip up caps, and close the rear cap on the acog, so when you look through, all you see is the reticle, when you shoot with both eyes open, you will not bet disoriented by the magnification, or wanting to look through the scope part. when you flip up that cap after on target, and it zooms in, you get the best understanding how you are supposed to use it. I had to show my wife this way for her to really get what i was talking about with the bindon aiming concept Awsome ill have to trythis |
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FWIW, the tritium doesn't just "go out" in ten years. it has a 10-12 year half life......meaning in 10-12 years (depending on model) the tritium is half as bright. With the fiber optic models, if you have any ambient light, you will see the reticule +1 also the tritium comes into play only in complete darkness. 99% of the illumination comes from the fiber optic |
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Quoted: The one im looking at is the TA-31F I found the TA31 slow for close up targets, both because of the magnification and the eye relief. If you want optimal near and far optics, either a 1-4 variable, aimpoint with flip magnifier, or TA31RMR. Many choose a 1-4 for simplicity. |
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The one im looking at is the TA-31F I found the TA31 slow for close up targets, both because of the magnification and the eye relief. If you want optimal near and far optics, either a 1-4 variable, aimpoint with flip magnifier, or TA31RMR. Many choose a 1-4 for simplicity. That's why you use your eye that's not in front of the scope for close targets. |
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The one im looking at is the TA-31F I found the TA31 slow for close up targets, both because of the magnification and the eye relief. If you want optimal near and far optics, either a 1-4 variable, aimpoint with flip magnifier, or TA31RMR. Many choose a 1-4 for simplicity. That's why you use your eye that's not in front of the scope for close targets. So to practice to i leave the front cover open and close the back or close the front and leave the back open? |
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You can still practice with both open. But to make your brain understand which eye to focus on, you close the forward cap and only the reticle will be superimposed over what your other eye is looking at. When you are scanning, the blurry image through the scope will make you want to focus from the other eye. As soon as you quit moving, you pick up on the magnified side.
http://www.trijicon-inc.com/aiming.html |
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Quoted: Hey guys im looking into acogs but i have a few questions I know the tritium lasts about 10yrs but is t usable in the daylight even if the tritium goes out? Also how do they compare to something like a eotech/3x combo? No Comparison. ACOG is light-years better. |
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The TA11 was what I chose. I have a local shop that stocks most all the ACOGs. 3.5x magnification with generous eye relief and great FOV. It's the finest optic I own. Unbelievably brilliant & crystal clear throughout 100% of the glass.
I probably could have been happy with one of the more compact models like the TA33 but the TA11 seemed perfect for me. Once you get it home and play with it for a bit, the BAC will be like 2nd nature. Just like riding a bike. |
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The TA11 was what I chose. I have a local shop that stocks most all the ACOGs. 3.5x magnification with generous eye relief and great FOV. It's the finest optic I own. Unbelievably brilliant & crystal clear throughout 100% of the glass. I probably could have been happy with one of the more compact models like the TA33 but the TA11 seemed perfect for me. Once you get it home and play with it for a bit, the BAC will be like 2nd nature. Just like riding a bike. I own an Eotech 552, a Aimpoint Comp M3 2MOA, and an ACOG TA-33-8. While the BAC works great 99% of the time, for home defense, the 3x magnification really takes some getting used to for any targets within 20 yards. I think the 1.5X or 2X ACOGs with longer eye relief would be better for strictly HD. With that said, once you look through the Trijicon glass there is no turning back. The first two optics I mention will be going on GB this weekend. As far as the tritium optic goes, I think it really isn't a factor 99% of the time. The times you would be using your rifle in pitch black darkness should be non-existent unless you are in the military. At all other times, the fiber optic is just about perfect. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: The one im looking at is the TA-31F I found the TA31 slow for close up targets, both because of the magnification and the eye relief. If you want optimal near and far optics, either a 1-4 variable, aimpoint with flip magnifier, or TA31RMR. Many choose a 1-4 for simplicity. That's why you use your eye that's not in front of the scope for close targets. If that method was optimal, 3 gunners would use it. They don't. |
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The one im looking at is the TA-31F I found the TA31 slow for close up targets, both because of the magnification and the eye relief. If you want optimal near and far optics, either a 1-4 variable, aimpoint with flip magnifier, or TA31RMR. Many choose a 1-4 for simplicity. That's why you use your eye that's not in front of the scope for close targets. If that method was optimal, 3 gunners would use it. They don't. I didn't say it was the fastest, i was just pointing out it doesn't have to be slow |
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The one im looking at is the TA-31F I found the TA31 slow for close up targets, both because of the magnification and the eye relief. If you want optimal near and far optics, either a 1-4 variable, aimpoint with flip magnifier, or TA31RMR. Many choose a 1-4 for simplicity. That's why you use your eye that's not in front of the scope for close targets. If that method was optimal, 3 gunners would use it. They don't. I didn't say it was the fastest, i was just pointing out it doesn't have to be slow Im not looking for the fastest i just wanted a good way to use an acog in cqb |
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