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Posted: 6/17/2011 7:56:55 AM EDT
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I have two Delton stripped lowers sitting in my safe. I have the bug to start building something and need a little advice. I recently purchased my wife a MP5 clone and feel the need to make a 9mm shooter for myself. I really like the RRA uppers in 9mm and will probably be going with them. The plan is to build a SBR. My bigger question is, Once I have the proper paper work for the lower, can I purchase differant uppers on that same lower?
Question 2, When I purchased the lowers at my local shop, the folks there said that I could only make them into rifles. I just read on a web site that the lowers they were selling could be used to build rifles or pistols...Is there any thing saying that a stripped lower can only be made into a rifle or a pistol? Thanks for any and all advice The Noob... |
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Quoted: I have two Delton stripped lowers sitting in my safe. I have the bug to start building something and need a little advice. I recently purchased my wife a MP5 clone and feel the need to make a 9mm shooter for myself. I really like the RRA uppers in 9mm and will probably be going with them. The plan is to build a SBR. My bigger question is, Once I have the proper paper work for the lower, can I purchase differant uppers on that same lower?YES Question 2, When I purchased the lowers at my local shop, the folks there said that I could only make them into rifles. I just read on a web site that the lowers they were selling could be used to build rifles or pistols...Is there any thing saying that a stripped lower can only be made into a rifle or a pistol? On the form4473 the receiver should be marked as "other". If so, build what you want(legally). If it's marked "rifle", I don't think you can build it into a pistol. Thanks for any and all advice The Noob... responses in red |
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Quoted: Quoted: I have two Delton stripped lowers sitting in my safe. I have the bug to start building something and need a little advice. I recently purchased my wife a MP5 clone and feel the need to make a 9mm shooter for myself. I really like the RRA uppers in 9mm and will probably be going with them. The plan is to build a SBR. My bigger question is, Once I have the proper paper work for the lower, can I purchase differant uppers on that same lower?YES Question 2, When I purchased the lowers at my local shop, the folks there said that I could only make them into rifles. I just read on a web site that the lowers they were selling could be used to build rifles or pistols...Is there any thing saying that a stripped lower can only be made into a rifle or a pistol? On the form4473 the receiver should be marked as "other". If so, build what you want(legally). If it's marked "rifle", I don't think you can build it into a pistol. Thanks for any and all advice The Noob... responses in red Not quite. If it's never been assembled as a rifle, meaning it never had a stock and barrel on it at the same time. It can be assembled as either a rifle or pistol. What's marked on the 4473 does not matter. Even if you bought a complete lower with rifle stock already installed, as long as it's never had a barrel on it, you can remove the stock and assemble it as a pistol. |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Question 2, When I purchased the lowers at my local shop, the folks there said that I could only make them into rifles. I just read on a web site that the lowers they were selling could be used to build rifles or pistols...Is there any thing saying that a stripped lower can only be made into a rifle or a pistol? On the form4473 the receiver should be marked as "other". If so, build what you want(legally). If it's marked "rifle", I don't think you can build it into a pistol. Thanks for any and all advice The Noob... responses in red Not quite. If it's never been assembled as a rifle, meaning it never had a stock and barrel on it at the same time. It can be assembled as either a rifle or pistol. What's marked on the 4473 does not matter. Even if you bought a complete lower with rifle stock already installed, as long as it's never had a barrel on it, you can remove the stock and assemble it as a pistol. If someone owned a pistol that, for whatever reason, has been traced, would that person be in trouble if the original paperwork(4473) stated that such firearm is a 'rifle'? I mean, once a rifle, always a rifle, right? How can you prove your case? |
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Quoted: The 4473 has no legal standing though. It could say pistol or other but you built it up as a rifle first then a pistol. The 4473 proves nothing one way or the other. About the only way the ATF would be able to prove that you had converted a an AR lower from a rifle to a pistol, is if you bragged about it and/or posted pics of it somewhere as a rifle first, then later as a pistol. Besides, burden of proof lies on the prosecutor, not the defendant.Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Question 2, When I purchased the lowers at my local shop, the folks there said that I could only make them into rifles. I just read on a web site that the lowers they were selling could be used to build rifles or pistols...Is there any thing saying that a stripped lower can only be made into a rifle or a pistol? On the form4473 the receiver should be marked as "other". If so, build what you want(legally). If it's marked "rifle", I don't think you can build it into a pistol. Thanks for any and all advice The Noob... responses in red Not quite. If it's never been assembled as a rifle, meaning it never had a stock and barrel on it at the same time. It can be assembled as either a rifle or pistol. What's marked on the 4473 does not matter. Even if you bought a complete lower with rifle stock already installed, as long as it's never had a barrel on it, you can remove the stock and assemble it as a pistol. If someone owned a pistol that, for whatever reason, has been traced, would that person be in trouble if the original paperwork(4473) stated that such firearm is a 'rifle'? I mean, once a rifle, always a rifle, right? How can you prove your case? Honestly, the only time I could even see this really becoming an issue, is the ATF doing a sting like Ruby Ridge. They give their target a couple of ARs already built as rifles and ask him to convert them into pistols. And that doesn't even seem likely, SBRs or MGs seems like a much more likely scenario there. |
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