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Posted: 8/7/2008 8:06:22 AM EDT
So after my last course the instructor told us about this lock that you could use to mount your AR say on the back of your closet header. It has a "hideable" button that you can place somewhere that allows you quick access to your rifle while still keeping it locked up and safe from would be thieves etc.  Does anyone have any experience with a lock like this or how do you keep your HD AR out of the hands of kids or thieves while still allowing quick access if you need it? |
Both... but we both know that with enough time your bolted down safe could be stolen... Just looking for something quick access that won't allow quick access by intruders or kids. |
IBTGif of your optics, upper, gets stolen while the ATF shoots your dog. In all seriousness though, I too would like something like this. It would have to be pretty sturdy but with quick access at the same time. |
Well my safe is not bolted to the floor any wood of thin concrete slab won't keep two people from rocking it louse easyly. Now it does weigh 1350 pounds with another about 400 pounds of stuff inside. So I don't stay awake worring about it getting carried off easly. Now IMO unless your closet wall is reinforced concrete and that the locking device is attached by a big strong bolting device. And I don't think this is the case correct me if I am wrong about this, then if it's attached to A 2" stud inside the wall IMO any thief will just rip it out quickly and make a quick exit with your AR. 
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Looks interesting. I am in a similar situation (i.e., restricting access to my kids). I wonder how quickly you could deploy an AR with this device's "quick access button" compared to, for example, having an AR with it's bolt forward on an empty chamber with a loaded 30 rd mag all just leaning against the wall next to my bed. Any good alternatives to this product? ETA: to clarify ... somewhat 
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It basically is the holder used in police cruisers and it fits an AR or a shotgun. But it can also be mounted in your home. Not sure how quickly the device "responds" when the hideaway button is pressed... hopefully someone has some experience with such devices and can add to this thread. |
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Preventing access to kids without concern for theft as the primary reason? How about just instilling your kids with a sense of responsibility and a healthy respect for firearms? Contrary to what some may think-unless your kids are about as intelligent as a bag of smashed assholes-they will listen to your request of not messing with your AR without your permission if you do teach them the dangers of irresponsible firearms handling. Exposing kids to safe/responsible firearms handling is the best way to reduce accidents. Growning up I only knew one kid who had an AD and hurt someone. He was the kid who had no exposure from a father figure on being responsible with firearms. Pretty much all my friends grew up hunting and shooting and were all safe around firearms. Children are naturally very inquisitive and will investigate things they do not understand. You can give them exposure to this on your own terms and nip future problems in the bud. I'm not a parent, but I was someone's child. Though I don't have my own kids, I did volunteer to coach a highschool smallbore rifle team for a few years. The kids on the team ranged from avid sportsmen (and girls) with lots of experience (good and bad), to kids who'd never fired or handled a firearm before. I only had one small safety issue in the few years I did that, and I made my point well enough that it never happened again. As always, my opinion is worth what you paid for it, and YMMV. |
lock responds instantly, stays unlocked for about 10-15 secs and then reactivates. works well, although i didn't know they made a version to run on home electricity rather than car. the ones we have in the cars for the rifles look more like one side of a handcuff and they clamp around the handguard. for the OP's pursposes, i think this whole concept would work well. |
An excellent point and I'm sure most of us gun owning parents do teach our children respect for firearms. But I don't think that absolves us from the responsibility of taking some kind of safety precautions to actually prevent children (or other un-authorized users) access to our firearms. Even the best taught and most well behaved children make mistakes. It may not even be your child that errs, but his friend or school mate, who hasn't been taught proper firearm handling. Personally all my firearms are kept locked in some kind of safe unless they're on my person, yes I know this will slow me down in getting them into action if need be. But lets face it the chances of that ever happening to any of us are slim, and I'd rather know that my son is safe on a daily basis and deal with the fact that it will take me 10-15 extra seconds to get a gun out if ever necessary. Besides thats why I insisted we get a 100lb Doberman as a family dog, his job is to buy me those 10-15 seconds. 
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Hope this isn't going too off-topic, but there was a sad/informative thread in GD recently about children and safe firearms practices, perhaps the discussion on that subject can move there: Loaded, unlocked handgun: Girl, 6, kills brother, 3 LOCK UP YOUR DAMN GUNS! ETA: yes, the device looks like it would serve its purpose, and be another layer of precaution just in case your well trained child (or their playmate) made a mistake (we're all human). |
Yep... my kids are well schooled, but I am not going to make any assumptions as it is ultimately my responsibility to take safety precautions where applicable... Does any one know of any other or use any other type of "quick access" gunlock type product for rifles? |
+1 we have these in the vehicles where I work. they are mounted so the butt stock rests on the floor. You press a small hard plastic button (maybe 1/4" in dia) you hear a click as the lock disengages at that point the weapon is till held in place but it comes out very easily. after 10-15 seconds you hear the same click as the lock re-engages, you can secure the weapon anytime but it will not be locked until that second click. In our vehicles at work they are wired so they can be used even with the ignition turned off. It may be difficult to mount it with the muzzle horizontal, though with a little ingenuity I'm sure it can be done. A few things I would watch out for, several of ours at work have become inoperable due to loose wiring that has far more to do with the poor wiring job then the product but still worth looking at, the area that secures your rifle is formed to and slightly larger than normal hand guards, I don't think rails would fit. If you have any specific questions let me know, and I'll see what I can find out at work. |
+1 we have these in the vehicles where I work. they are mounted so the butt stock rests on the floor. You press a small hard plastic button (maybe 1/4" in dia) you hear a click as the lock disengages at that point the weapon is till held in place but it comes out very easily. after 10-15 seconds you hear the same click as the lock re-engages, you can secure the weapon anytime but it will not be locked until that second click. In our vehicles at work they are wired so they can be used even with the ignition turned off. It may be difficult to mount it with the muzzle horizontal, though with a little ingenuity I'm sure it can be done. A few things I would watch out for, several of ours at work have become inoperable due to loose wiring that has far more to do with the poor wiring job then the product but still worth looking at, the area that secures your rifle is formed to and slightly larger than normal hand guards, I don't think rails would fit. If you have any specific questions let me know, and I'll see what I can find out at work. |
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