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Posted: 9/16/2014 9:59:34 AM EDT
| My mother and I thought it was time for my father to have his own AR since he's been looking at the for 20 years but won't ever buy anything for himself. So, I've built him one. The problem is, they just moved to New Jersey and residents there can't have anything with "Evil" barrel threads, bayonet lugs, or flash hiders. They can have a compensator that is permanently pinned or a thread protector that is permanently pinned. We're going with the compensator. Problem is, I hate shooting next to people with them indoors especially, and even outdoors. That said, in your own personal experiences with 5.56 compensators, what are the quietest ones? I know none of them are quieter than a flash suppressor... but what are some of the quieter ones? Thanks for your help... |
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My mother and I thought it was time for my father to have his own AR since he's been looking at the for 20 years but won't ever buy anything for himself. So, I've built him one. The problem is, they just moved to New Jersey and residents there can't have anything with "Evil" barrel threads, bayonet lugs, or flash hiders. They can have a compensator that is permanently pinned or a thread protector that is permanently pinned. We're going with the compensator. Problem is, I hate shooting next to people with them indoors especially, and even outdoors. That said, in your own personal experiences with 5.56 compensators, what are the quietest ones? I know none of them are quieter than a flash suppressor... but what are some of the quieter ones? Thanks for your help... wow. ok so a FLASH suppressor only suppresses the FLASH, does nothing for sound. Why not get have a 12" barrel and have an actual suppressor permanently attached which would negate the SBR stamp and only leave the suppressor stamp? Then he gets all of it, flash, concussion, and sound suppression. Keep in mind, a 5.56/223 suppressor will not make it hearing friendly just not as loud as with out it. |
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wow. ok so a FLASH suppressor only suppresses the FLASH, does nothing for sound. Why not get have a 12" barrel and have an actual suppressor permanently attached which would negate the SBR stamp and only leave the suppressor stamp? Then he gets all of it, flash, concussion, and sound suppression. Keep in mind, a 5.56/223 suppressor will not make it hearing friendly just not as loud as with out it. Quoted:
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My mother and I thought it was time for my father to have his own AR since he's been looking at the for 20 years but won't ever buy anything for himself. So, I've built him one. The problem is, they just moved to New Jersey and residents there can't have anything with "Evil" barrel threads, bayonet lugs, or flash hiders. They can have a compensator that is permanently pinned or a thread protector that is permanently pinned. We're going with the compensator. Problem is, I hate shooting next to people with them indoors especially, and even outdoors. That said, in your own personal experiences with 5.56 compensators, what are the quietest ones? I know none of them are quieter than a flash suppressor... but what are some of the quieter ones? Thanks for your help... wow. ok so a FLASH suppressor only suppresses the FLASH, does nothing for sound. Why not get have a 12" barrel and have an actual suppressor permanently attached which would negate the SBR stamp and only leave the suppressor stamp? Then he gets all of it, flash, concussion, and sound suppression. Keep in mind, a 5.56/223 suppressor will not make it hearing friendly just not as loud as with out it. Its NJ. No suppressors allowed. Unfortunately I live in NJ as well. I have a BattleComp 1.0 on one of my rifles that I really like. It doesnt seem to have the side blast that most comps have. I just put a PWS comp on my Larue and it seems to be ok so far as well. Ive only shot it once so far so I still need to experiment more. Theres a video on youtube of someone comparing a whole bunch of comps/breaks. If I remember correctly, BattleComp and PWS both did better than most in terms of side blast and extra noise. |
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Here's some data for your evaluation. It's not mine, so take it for what it's worth. http://vuurwapenblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/muzzledevicecompareoverall.jpg So the best of these seem to be the Blackout and the 249F in regards to lowest decibels, correct? Thanks for posting this as well!!! |
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Its NJ. No suppressors allowed. Unfortunately I live in NJ as well. I have a BattleComp 1.0 on one of my rifles that I really like. It doesnt seem to have the side blast that most comps have. I just put a PWS comp on my Larue and it seems to be ok so far as well. Ive only shot it once so far so I still need to experiment more. Theres a video on youtube of someone comparing a whole bunch of comps/breaks. If I remember correctly, BattleComp and PWS both did better than most in terms of side blast and extra noise. Quoted:
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My mother and I thought it was time for my father to have his own AR since he's been looking at the for 20 years but won't ever buy anything for himself. So, I've built him one. The problem is, they just moved to New Jersey and residents there can't have anything with "Evil" barrel threads, bayonet lugs, or flash hiders. They can have a compensator that is permanently pinned or a thread protector that is permanently pinned. We're going with the compensator. Problem is, I hate shooting next to people with them indoors especially, and even outdoors. That said, in your own personal experiences with 5.56 compensators, what are the quietest ones? I know none of them are quieter than a flash suppressor... but what are some of the quieter ones? Thanks for your help... wow. ok so a FLASH suppressor only suppresses the FLASH, does nothing for sound. Why not get have a 12" barrel and have an actual suppressor permanently attached which would negate the SBR stamp and only leave the suppressor stamp? Then he gets all of it, flash, concussion, and sound suppression. Keep in mind, a 5.56/223 suppressor will not make it hearing friendly just not as loud as with out it. Its NJ. No suppressors allowed. Unfortunately I live in NJ as well. I have a BattleComp 1.0 on one of my rifles that I really like. It doesnt seem to have the side blast that most comps have. I just put a PWS comp on my Larue and it seems to be ok so far as well. Ive only shot it once so far so I still need to experiment more. Theres a video on youtube of someone comparing a whole bunch of comps/breaks. If I remember correctly, BattleComp and PWS both did better than most in terms of side blast and extra noise. I beleive it's 21st Century Gunfighter that did the 3 part review of almost all brakes, comps, and FH's. |
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Linear Compensator. My BRT has made SBR shooting much more enjoyable for me, and those at the range. Short barrels can be mid numbing. http://i1107.photobucket.com/albums/h385/alaskaLTZ/IMG_2105_zps85006f30.jpg There are a few linears out there. If you HAVE to have a comp, this is the best way to go IMO I've never seen or heard of a linear comp. I'll research this one as well. Out of the 4 recommended comps from you guys; I'll find something as quiet as possible for this project. And yes, this rifle pretty much has to have a comp pinned. Flash hiders are absolutely illegal to have. The other option is for no muzzle device with the threads cut off the barrel or a welded/pinned thread protector over the threads. The last two options are so damned ugly I probably wouldn't even want to own an AR myself if that was the only option. So, a pinned comp is in order for the retarded NJ law makers to be happy... He also can't have a bayonet lug (due to all the drive by bayoneting no doubt), a pinned (adjustable stock) is ok, and no magazine can accept more than (15) rounds, rifles or pistols... It's not ideal for me because I live in a free state but dad really wants one and when he and mom move out of NJ I can un-fuck his rifle for him in short order... |
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wow. ok so a FLASH suppressor only suppresses the FLASH, does nothing for sound. Why not get have a 12" barrel and have an actual suppressor permanently attached which would negate the SBR stamp and only leave the suppressor stamp? Then he gets all of it, flash, concussion, and sound suppression. Keep in mind, a 5.56/223 suppressor will not make it hearing friendly just not as loud as with out it. Quoted:
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My mother and I thought it was time for my father to have his own AR since he's been looking at the for 20 years but won't ever buy anything for himself. So, I've built him one. The problem is, they just moved to New Jersey and residents there can't have anything with "Evil" barrel threads, bayonet lugs, or flash hiders. They can have a compensator that is permanently pinned or a thread protector that is permanently pinned. We're going with the compensator. Problem is, I hate shooting next to people with them indoors especially, and even outdoors. That said, in your own personal experiences with 5.56 compensators, what are the quietest ones? I know none of them are quieter than a flash suppressor... but what are some of the quieter ones? Thanks for your help... wow. ok so a FLASH suppressor only suppresses the FLASH, does nothing for sound. Why not get have a 12" barrel and have an actual suppressor permanently attached which would negate the SBR stamp and only leave the suppressor stamp? Then he gets all of it, flash, concussion, and sound suppression. Keep in mind, a 5.56/223 suppressor will not make it hearing friendly just not as loud as with out it. Mrgein, I haven't checked on the status of a suppressor but... I seriously doubt lame ass NJ will allow dad to have a suppressor when he can't even have a bayonet lug, or a simple flash hider. Plus dad would NEVER want to register a damn thing, (nor will I) so there is that too. I do understand what your saying and still appreciate your post... |
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No flash hiders in NJ either.. muzzle brakes are OK w/pin and weld.. I don't think SBR's are allowed in NJ either..  They aren't allowed. NJ basically follows the 1994 Federal AWB with the exception of 15 round mags and certain firearms being expressly banned (i.e. m1 carbine, Colt AR-15 rollmarked rifles, Armalite AR 180) OP, take a look at the BCM Comp. I have it on one of my AR's and it is great. Not too loud like a lot of other brakes 
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I would also suggest you stick with a linear comp especially if you plan on shooting indoors. They are designed with the purpose of projecting the noise & blast forwards away from the shooter. They are also cheap compared to some of the other options. Levang is around $30, KIES blast master $45, STD (simple threaded device) is $55, BRT (black river tactical) covert comp is $55-60 depending if you want it fluted, the KAW (kaw valley precision) $55, Troy claymore $65 & upwards over $100 like the Ferfrans, Noveske kx3 & kx5.
Heres a thread with more discussion: Linear Comp thread in AR pistols subforum I just picked up a STD for my pistol & am amazed at how small it is - shorter than a A2. |
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Quoted: I've never seen or heard of a linear comp. I'll research this one as well. Quoted: Quoted: Linear Compensator. My BRT has made SBR shooting much more enjoyable for me, and those at the range. Short barrels can be mid numbing. There are a few linears out there. If you HAVE to have a comp, this is the best way to go IMO I've never seen or heard of a linear comp. I'll research this one as well. Yeah, check it out. I would suggest you snatch one for yourself, just to experience it. I have one on my 16" .308, and it has made it much more tolerable for everyone when we go shooting. One of my shooting buddies has the Troy Claymore linear on his 16" .308 that we built, and I have stood off to the side of that during mag dumps. Muy Bueno. So, of the several ARs I have, the 4 SBRs and my .308 are the most obnoxious. Until I get my shit together and get cans, linears are my fix. |
| The griffin armament m4sd tactical comp was metered at 0db increase at 90 degrees to the muzzle over blind muzzle. A brake shield for it is in the works so that will be a snap on linear comp style noise redirector capable of reducing the shooter heard noise by directing sound and concussion down range. |
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why, its causing the problems your trying to fix, chop the barrel or ditch the threads Quoted:
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. We're going with the compensator. chop the barrel or ditch the threads Because chopping the barrel and having no MD at all or ditching the threads is ugly as fuck. It's an appearance thing that will totally neuter the look of the rifle to the ones I saw and shot during the horrible 94 ban. The Linear Comps suggested in this thread will eliminate both problems so that is what I'm researching now. |
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I share the same sentiment regarding the Battle Comp and would also look into a Linear Comp as Alaska511 suggested since it directs the concussion forward. Quoted:
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I had a BattleComp 1.0 and it didn't seem any different sound-wise from an A2. I share the same sentiment regarding the Battle Comp and would also look into a Linear Comp as Alaska511 suggested since it directs the concussion forward. Shooting the gun - I agree but not next to it. Gonna be like pretty much all comps Loud next to them |
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Quoted: Shooting the gun - I agree but not next to it. Gonna be like pretty much all comps Loud next to them Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I had a BattleComp 1.0 and it didn't seem any different sound-wise from an A2. I share the same sentiment regarding the Battle Comp and would also look into a Linear Comp as Alaska511 suggested since it directs the concussion forward. Shooting the gun - I agree but not next to it. Gonna be like pretty much all comps Loud next to them That just isn't true with the linear, the blast is directed forward. I am not talking hearing safe, just the blast
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