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12/21/2014 9:58:50 AM EDT
Has anyone ever dealt with Radical Firearms? I've never heard of them, but their price on this upper is pretty good. What do you guys think of it? I can't spend a lot of money so I'm looking for the best bang for the buck.

http://www.radicalfirearms.com/product-p/rfupperv1.mcsr.16socom.htm

12/21/2014 10:24:34 AM EDT
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your link doesn't work & I guess neither does the search function.
12/21/2014 10:28:58 AM EDT
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Your better off buying something from your home state
12/21/2014 10:56:44 AM EDT
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I avoid PSA whenever I can but I'll have to agree with you there.  There was someone with a radical 10.5 on their duty weapon and it wouldn't run on auto even with an H2 buffer which kinda makes me
12/21/2014 12:10:23 PM EDT
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Placed an order with Radical on December 1st.  It shipped yesterday and is due to be here next Friday 12/26  They are pretty clear about their lead times so you have to ask yourself if waiting a month is worth saving $75-$150
12/21/2014 12:16:26 PM EDT
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Has anyone ever dealt with Radical Firearms? I've never heard of them, but their price on this upper is pretty good. What do you guys think of it? I can't spend a lot of money so I'm looking for the best bang for the buck.

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Fixed it.

I have the very same barrel on a build I just finished and test fired. So far, I am impressed with the results. I will be taking it out again once I get the scope and mount after Christmas. For the price of the upper assembly, you are getting a good deal.
12/21/2014 12:48:44 PM EDT
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the upper your looking at


the one I ordered


upper I sold had/FTE/split case

The last one I posted was build I did to finally get one of the rifle/pistols done my son and I did the lowers on. I had to sell it for bills. The owner did not clean and lube like I said before he fired it, but some PPU 75gr. ruptured a case. I am meeting him today to work on it, maybe LGS sold me a 300/7.62x39 upper by mistake.

Most people here and that have bought these from LGS are happy with them. By No means am I bashing Radical, just giving you a heads up on my weird issue with one. I have the second one on order for a build for another friend. I will clean and test fire it myself before handing over.


12/21/2014 12:57:32 PM EDT
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For a boutique builder, they seem to be pretty busy. I got my upper from them in 2 or 3 days, the wait time seems to be much longer now. I did have my gas block come loose, others have talked about the rail being slightly out of spec. Way back when there was a guy in the pistol forum who couldn't mate his Radical upper with any of his lowers. They seem to cut corners but if your expectations are realistic, you probably won't be disappointed.
12/21/2014 1:12:58 PM EDT
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I ordered mine through Primary Arms and it came in a few days.



Fit and finish were good. Shoots very accurate, surprisingly so. Piled up brass at four o'clock. The only problem is that it won't cycle Remington 220 gr. subs unsuppressed. I haven't tried other rounds or buffers / springs yet.
12/21/2014 2:13:53 PM EDT
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Here is a thread that may interest you CLICK
12/21/2014 2:43:30 PM EDT
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Things that make you go hmmm
12/21/2014 5:21:15 PM EDT
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Sorry guys. The link does work now.
12/21/2014 5:23:49 PM EDT
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Fixed it.

I have the very same barrel on a build I just finished and test fired. So far, I am impressed with the results. I will be taking it out again once I get the scope and mount after Christmas. For the price of the upper assembly, you are getting a good deal.
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Has anyone ever dealt with Radical Firearms? I've never heard of them, but their price on this upper is pretty good. What do you guys think of it? I can't spend a lot of money so I'm looking for the best bang for the buck.

http://www.radicalfirearms.com/product-p/rfupperv1.mcsr.16socom.htm


Fixed it.

I have the very same barrel on a build I just finished and test fired. So far, I am impressed with the results. I will be taking it out again once I get the scope and mount after Christmas. For the price of the upper assembly, you are getting a good deal.


Thanks jrs. I fixed the original link as well.
12/21/2014 5:25:53 PM EDT
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For a boutique builder, they seem to be pretty busy. I got my upper from them in 2 or 3 days, the wait time seems to be much longer now. I did have my gas block come loose, others have talked about the rail being slightly out of spec. Way back when there was a guy in the pistol forum who couldn't mate his Radical upper with any of his lowers. They seem to cut corners but if your expectations are realistic, you probably won't be disappointed.
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They are not a boutique brand.
12/21/2014 5:31:27 PM EDT
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Any 16" AR I've owned has always had a mid-length gas system and this one is carbine.  Are there any concerns with that or things I should be aware of if I buy it?
12/21/2014 5:39:27 PM EDT
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No, The vast majority of 16" barrels have carbine gas. Mid length is supposed to have a little milder recoil and be slightly easier on the parts. I have had both and the difference is barely noticeable to me. If you are very sensitive to recoil, you may be happier with the middy but to me it was a non issue.
12/21/2014 6:24:55 PM EDT
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Thanks for the link.  Hmmm, I was ready to spring for it about 3/4 of the way through the thread until I got to the accuracy issues at the end.  I'm now in a holding pattern pending further investigation.
12/21/2014 7:50:32 PM EDT
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Thanks for the link.  Hmmm, I was ready to spring for it about 3/4 of the way through the thread until I got to the accuracy issues at the end.  I'm now in a holding pattern pending further investigation.


To which accuracy issue are you referring?
12/21/2014 8:32:58 PM EDT
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Thanks for the link.  Hmmm, I was ready to spring for it about 3/4 of the way through the thread until I got to the accuracy issues at the end.  I'm now in a holding pattern pending further investigation.


To which accuracy issue are you referring?


Follow the link in the above post from Alaska511.  It's a four page thread but near the end of the thread there are some accuracy issues referred to.  Others have made positive comments so Im doing some further research before I make a decision.  I emailed a couple questions to Radical today (Sunday) and the owner responded very quickly which I took as a good sign.  I'm not looking for or expect a sub MOA barrel at this price so my expectations are realistic.
12/21/2014 10:40:05 PM EDT
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I decided to go with this one instead.  I like the lightweight barrel and it's made by FN here in SC.  I do a ton of business with my local PSA store and have always been happy with every purchase plus the guys there have done a few favors for me.  Price is virtually the same and free shipping until midnight tonight balances off the sales tax I'll be paying since it's an in-state purchase.  Thanks a lot for your help guys.

http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/18875/s/psa-16-mid-length-5-56-nato-1-7-13-sqr-pencil-upper/
12/21/2014 11:32:32 PM EDT
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Follow the link in the above post from Alaska511.  It's a four page thread but near the end of the thread there are some accuracy issues referred to.  Others have made positive comments so Im doing some further research before I make a decision.  I emailed a couple questions to Radical today (Sunday) and the owner responded very quickly which I took as a good sign.  I'm not looking for or expect a sub MOA barrel at this price so my expectations are realistic.
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Thanks for the link.  Hmmm, I was ready to spring for it about 3/4 of the way through the thread until I got to the accuracy issues at the end.  I'm now in a holding pattern pending further investigation.


To which accuracy issue are you referring?


Follow the link in the above post from Alaska511.  It's a four page thread but near the end of the thread there are some accuracy issues referred to.  Others have made positive comments so Im doing some further research before I make a decision.  I emailed a couple questions to Radical today (Sunday) and the owner responded very quickly which I took as a good sign.  I'm not looking for or expect a sub MOA barrel at this price so my expectations are realistic.


I am well aware of the thread. I have posted on it a couple times. I know of some guys taking about vague accuracy issues without any specifics. This is the problem with guys who do not know squat. They post crap that is not complete and others tend to take it in. If you read more, most of the issues discussed in the thread were with cheap underpowered ammo and use of iron sights. They never divulged the level of their experience using iron sights, or with shooting an AR for that matter. I am glad you decided on something from PSA. They have some good stuff too.
12/22/2014 1:24:34 AM EDT
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I am well aware of the thread. I have posted on it a couple times. I know of some guys taking about vague accuracy issues without any specifics. This is the problem with guys who do not know squat. They post crap that is not complete and others tend to take it in. If you read more, most of the issues discussed in the thread were with cheap underpowered ammo and use of iron sights. They never divulged the level of their experience using iron sights, or with shooting an AR for that matter. I am glad you decided on something from PSA. They have some good stuff too.
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Thanks for the link.  Hmmm, I was ready to spring for it about 3/4 of the way through the thread until I got to the accuracy issues at the end.  I'm now in a holding pattern pending further investigation.


To which accuracy issue are you referring?


Follow the link in the above post from Alaska511.  It's a four page thread but near the end of the thread there are some accuracy issues referred to.  Others have made positive comments so Im doing some further research before I make a decision.  I emailed a couple questions to Radical today (Sunday) and the owner responded very quickly which I took as a good sign.  I'm not looking for or expect a sub MOA barrel at this price so my expectations are realistic.


I am well aware of the thread. I have posted on it a couple times. I know of some guys taking about vague accuracy issues without any specifics. This is the problem with guys who do not know squat. They post crap that is not complete and others tend to take it in. If you read more, most of the issues discussed in the thread were with cheap underpowered ammo and use of iron sights. They never divulged the level of their experience using iron sights, or with shooting an AR for that matter. I am glad you decided on something from PSA. They have some good stuff too.


That is why I posted groups with my SR-15 barrel shot on the same day using the same ammo using the same type of sight.

My experience with irons is shooting NRA high power. Scores for the 500 aggregate around 465 on a bad day 475 on a good day in the 100 yard short course. No ranges around me that shoot the full distance course of fire, however I did enjoy shooting the 800-1000yard modified palma matches at Quantico when I lived closer. Although I'm not sure why any of that matters since the groups I posted were shot using a red dot...

In Radical's defense, I have not gotten a hold of them so they have not had a chance to fix it. I've been busy so I only tried calling once.

eta: Shooting a rifle from bench to test accuracy is not exactly rocket science. Yes, it's more difficult with a semi vs a bolt gun because you have to be more consistent with recoil absorption and follow-through, but that's only if you're at the sub-moa level. This barrel is shooting 10 MOA+. I coach a jr. shooting club and every single one of them can do better from bench with a different rifle.
12/22/2014 9:41:23 AM EDT
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For a boutique builder, they seem to be pretty busy. I got my upper from them in 2 or 3 days, the wait time seems to be much longer now. I did have my gas block come loose, others have talked about the rail being slightly out of spec. Way back when there was a guy in the pistol forum who couldn't mate his Radical upper with any of his lowers. They seem to cut corners but if your expectations are realistic, you probably won't be disappointed.


They are not a boutique brand.

Mine functions perfectly!
12/22/2014 9:49:03 AM EDT
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I am well aware of the thread. I have posted on it a couple times. I know of some guys taking about vague accuracy issues without any specifics. This is the problem with guys who do not know squat. They post crap that is not complete and others tend to take it in. If you read more, most of the issues discussed in the thread were with cheap underpowered ammo and use of iron sights. They never divulged the level of their experience using iron sights, or with shooting an AR for that matter. I am glad you decided on something from PSA. They have some good stuff too.
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Thanks for the link.  Hmmm, I was ready to spring for it about 3/4 of the way through the thread until I got to the accuracy issues at the end.  I'm now in a holding pattern pending further investigation.


To which accuracy issue are you referring?


Follow the link in the above post from Alaska511.  It's a four page thread but near the end of the thread there are some accuracy issues referred to.  Others have made positive comments so Im doing some further research before I make a decision.  I emailed a couple questions to Radical today (Sunday) and the owner responded very quickly which I took as a good sign.  I'm not looking for or expect a sub MOA barrel at this price so my expectations are realistic.


I am well aware of the thread. I have posted on it a couple times. I know of some guys taking about vague accuracy issues without any specifics. This is the problem with guys who do not know squat. They post crap that is not complete and others tend to take it in. If you read more, most of the issues discussed in the thread were with cheap underpowered ammo and use of iron sights. They never divulged the level of their experience using iron sights, or with shooting an AR for that matter. I am glad you decided on something from PSA. They have some good stuff too.


I have to say I agree here.  I have a RA 16in upper and it is firmly in the under MOA category.  I am sure there may be a few not so good barrels out there from anyone.  First step should be customer service, not a bashfest.  If Primary Arms speaks for them and pushes RA's product, I am good with that.  I know I will be well taken care of in the event of any problems.   If you want dead nuts accuracy, order the $350 wilson instead of complaining about the $65 RA.
12/22/2014 9:58:05 AM EDT
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