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Posted: 7/25/2015 2:22:56 AM EDT
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Figured I would get around to putting one of these up. The rifle is my first. A Windham Weaponry flat top A2 with a factory diamondhead rear flip sight. I added the magpul furniture, eotech 512 from PA with their 3x magnifier and the elzetta light+mount. Stock internals. 1/9 barrel witch I believe to be a green mountain barrel but I could be very wrong. Range was 50 yards with a mix of mostly bulk federal 55 gr 223 with a few m193 amoung those. I had about 20 rounds of m855 that I was using my BUIS with and those were fired not knowing that my rear sight had worked loose causing a wandering zero. Pics inbound
Okay this one is with the EO and magnifier. I know this is a huge group for most on here but this is my first centerfire rifle to ever fire or own and I don't get enough time to really work on my shooting. 
Okay on this one I believe the upper three shots are wandering 62 gr rounds. I need to get some loctite for that rear sight. It's happened more than once. This was eotech and no magnification. I do wear glasses for distance vision. 
Last target. These were shot by a friend with more experience and better vision. Eotech and magnifier. 55 gr American eagle I believe 
Lastly but certainly not least my trusty Windham. Not one hiccup ever. Ejects at 3.30-4. 
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Figured I would get around to putting one of these up. The rifle is my first. A Windham Weaponry flat top A2 with a factory diamondhead rear flip sight. I added the magpul furniture, eotech 512 and the elzetta light+mount. Stock internals. 1/9 barrel witch I believe to be a green mountain barrel but I could be very wrong. Range was 50 yards with a mix of mostly bulk federal 55 gr 223 with a few m193 amoung those. I had about 20 rounds of m855 that I was using my BUIS with and those were fired not knowing that my rear sight had worked loose causing a wandering zero. Pics inbound That's like a double negative. 
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You cant expect to zero a rifle using different kinds of ammo. |
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That's like a double negative.
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Figured I would get around to putting one of these up. The rifle is my first. A Windham Weaponry flat top A2 with a factory diamondhead rear flip sight. I added the magpul furniture, eotech 512 and the elzetta light+mount. Stock internals. 1/9 barrel witch I believe to be a green mountain barrel but I could be very wrong. Range was 50 yards with a mix of mostly bulk federal 55 gr 223 with a few m193 amoung those. I had about 20 rounds of m855 that I was using my BUIS with and those were fired not knowing that my rear sight had worked loose causing a wandering zero. Pics inbound That's like a double negative.
Pics! Well the WW's do have a A2 FSB (non "F" marked) so he was sorta right. 
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Ignore the guidance on the target , not applicable to your rifle, I'm sure your knew that. Use a bench rest or bipod for zeroing. Stick to one type of ammo for now, if you can. You may benefit from an upgraded trigger, nothing really wrong with stock. But a trigger upgrade is often put off in favor of other gadgets that will probably find Thier way into a pile instead of on your rifle. Pound for pound best money spent on an upgrade. there's definitely room for improvement on your grouping at 50 yards , but no hate, enjoy your new rifle and practice safety religiously. |
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You cant expect to zero a rifle using different kinds of ammo. http://www.theboxotruth.com/educational-zone-98-shooting-a-rifle-from-a-benchrest/ I agree. I was not attempting to zero anything. I was simply using them for practice. After the fact I noticed the rear sight had worked loose. |
| I am curious, were you standing when firing? It looks like your drifting, sweeping the front of the rifle around until you think your on target than jerking the trigger. This is a bad habit to get into. I could be wrong on this, but thats what it looks like. Google rifle fundamentals and get back out there. The best way to shoot well is to shoot often. |
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Everything was shot seated at a bench type set up at the local range resting the magazine on the table Not my preferred method , but many people do it with various results. Honest critique, if your shots are that wide , seated with a rest (your mag) , then your trigger control needs a lot of improvement. for your first centerfire rifle I'd say you made a good choice and have lots of fun days ahead of you. |
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Quoted: Everything was shot seated at a bench type set up at the local range resting the magazine on the table that's half the problem. you don't want to use a solid rest. look at the link I posted above, fix your sights and get back to us. BTW, BUIS are not primary sights. they are intended to get you close, should your primary go down. |
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The same thing happened to me with a Burris ar332 coming loose in its mount, I didn't notice it until I cleared my weapon , it was moving side to side about an eighth of an inch. But since the rifle was stable, and I wasn't cowboying the trigger, it still managed to group at 50 yards. a piss poor group , but nonetheless. Even with no optic or sights at all you could hit a group at 50 with your rifle. So long as it was still. 
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CLICK HERE FOR SHORT VIDEO The same thing happened to me with a Burris ar332 coming loose in its mount, I didn't notice it until I cleared my weapon , it was moving side to side about an eighth of an inch. But since the rifle was stable, and I wasn't cowboying the trigger, it still managed to group at 50 yards. a piss poor group , but nonetheless. Even with no optic or sights at all you could hit a group at 50 with your rifle. So long as it was still. <a href="http://s72.photobucket.com/user/doperide/media/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG1246.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i176/doperide/Mobile%20Uploads/IMAG1246.jpg</a> That was an excellent article and I'm pretty sure I did everything exactly wrong when I zeroed my eotech   oh well. I guess it's time for more ammo and another trip to the range. I knew I needed stability when I zeroed but I did a number of the "don't do this" such as a hand between the forend and the rest. I know for sure my trigger work is in need of more practice. As far as upgraded triggers go I think at this point the money would be better spent on range time and ammo.
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It looks like you're on your way to becoming a rifleman. Keep at it and learn from others and have fun and be safe. I wouldn't want to be standing downrange from you. But yeah, with experience those groups will tighten up.
Thanks for posting a range report!!! And nice Carbean. |
| At 50 yds with a magnified EOTech, all the shots should have been in the penny. You say you were not 'zeroing', but you should have been. Use sandbags and shoot from a rested position - the purpose of this is to adjust the sights as well as you can to the point of impact. In order to do this, you have to be able to shoot 'meaningful' groups - groups small enough that basing a sight adjustment on them will have positive results. After zeroing at 50, then you can practice general shooting or whatever. And heed what they say about sticking with one kind of ammo. That should be the best ammo you can afford that also shoots well in your gun. |
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