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3/28/2010 6:48:49 PM EDT
I have a stag arms model 1. The rear takedown pin cannot be pushed through by just pressing it. i have to get a punch. Its been like that since the day i got it.

Is there anyway i can fix this? And has anyone else had this problem with Stags?  

Thanks
3/28/2010 7:30:26 PM EDT
[#1]
this is not just with a Stag that you have to use a Punch I have to do this with all of my AR's except the once where I have the YHM - EZ Pull Takedown Pin's installed than it is easier to take the Upper off. It should be this way otherwise while shooting those could come out and that would not be a good idea.
3/28/2010 7:34:01 PM EDT
[#2]
Not that uncommon.  It will work loose as time goes by... shoot it and just wait before doing anything.
3/28/2010 7:38:53 PM EDT
[#3]
Quoted:
Not that uncommon.  It will work loose as time goes by... shoot it and just wait before doing anything.


Here's the answer. Keep shooting it and using the punch to take out the take down pin for cleaning. Before too long you will no longer need the punch. Be glad, most people complaint about the slop in their rifles

3/28/2010 9:04:16 PM EDT
[#4]
I put a little dab of moly-slide in the detents and pin channel on mine.
Works great now.
3/29/2010 2:22:02 PM EDT
[#5]
alright thanks guys... i just kinds wondered because it seems like with most of them you can just push them out, but i figured better to be tight then loose.
3/29/2010 3:42:51 PM EDT
[#6]
Needing a tool (punch) to get the pins out?  No good.  You should be able to field dress that weapon.  If it were me I would take a dowel rod and wrap a single layer of 400 grip paper on it.  Lightly sand in inside of the pin holes to remove any coating that may be binding them.  Then I would also lightly rub the coating down on the pins as well.  Lubing the detent springs and the pins is good advice.  Until they are workable I would find a way to improve them.
3/29/2010 4:10:41 PM EDT
[#7]
OP, if you want to sand something until the pin moves easier, sand on the pin. Then if it loosens up some as you shoot it more you can get a new pin for a couple of bucks and tighten things up again.

If its still punch-tight after the first one or two thousand rounds, then I'd think about opening up the takedown pin hole.
4/1/2010 8:03:28 AM EDT
[#8]
Quoted:
OP, if you want to sand something until the pin moves easier, sand on the pin. Then if it loosens up some as you shoot it more you can get a new pin for a couple of bucks and tighten things up again.

If its still punch-tight after the first one or two thousand rounds, then I'd think about opening up the takedown pin hole.


Agreed!  A good general principle to follow is:  "Always modify the cheapest part."
4/1/2010 8:05:21 PM EDT
[#9]
i heard if there is too much play it can cause accuracy to suffer anyone know if thats true?
4/1/2010 8:38:51 PM EDT
[#10]
Leave it alone.
Tight is good, like pussy.
4/2/2010 7:08:29 PM EDT
[#11]
haha i hear ya on that one and going along with that.... if you play with it a little she'll loosen up with time ha
4/2/2010 8:11:29 PM EDT
[#12]
Quoted:
haha i hear ya on that one and going along with that.... if you play with it a little she'll loosen up with time ha


Exactly.
4/2/2010 8:58:59 PM EDT
[#13]
Do it the same way we teach new recruits in class to do it.  Put thumb pressure on the pin and charge the weapon. The shock of the bolt slamming home will cause the pin to jump out far enough to be able to grab the head with your fingers.
4/3/2010 1:03:05 PM EDT
[#14]
Tight is good just carry a golf tee in your pocket.
5/6/2010 7:36:58 PM EDT
[#15]
it just means you do not break it down enough. oil the pins where the detents ride and after a while the detents will wear in a little and they will slide in and out easy enough.
5/6/2010 7:47:13 PM EDT
[#16]
this is a tolerance stacking issue between the upper and lower...

i've had this problem the MOST with both Stag Lowers and CMT/Stag uppers... Colt, LMT, Sabre Defence, LT, no issues whatsoever...

a tight upper to lower fit is nice, but the takedown pin shouldn't require any excessive force or tools to remove... my LT stealth fits together like a glove, but the takedown pin pops right out...

the takedown pin will not walk itself out as it is held in place by a detent...
5/6/2010 11:11:48 PM EDT
[#17]
In the field, I use a live round to push the take down pin when they are new and tight.
5/7/2010 7:50:59 PM EDT
[#18]
I had this problem with my Stag 3.  I cut a few coils off the detent spring and the problem went away.
5/8/2010 1:46:21 PM EDT
[#19]
I always thought you were supposed to use a round to push out the pins. Maybe I've watched too much tv.
5/8/2010 10:29:39 PM EDT
[#20]
Quoted:
Leave it alone.
Tight is good, like pussy.



Really?  I thought the term fiels strip meant strip the weapon in the field i.e. without tools.  

My advice, shoot it.  Tight is nice.  If after a thousand rounds it hasn't loosened, try automotive emerory cloth.  Somewhere around 800 grit.  

My .02

5/9/2010 9:56:28 AM EDT
[#21]
If you are field stripping a rifle in the field and you have no ammo, wtf...
Bullet tip starts the takedown pins...if your nails suck and you still can't pull it out, use the cartridge case rim like an extractor against the takedown pin.
Like mentioned already, wear will make it easier over time. If your takedown pin is stiff, work it about 50 times.
5/10/2010 7:39:27 AM EDT
[#22]
thanks guys... i guess i ll just have to work it for a while cause it sucks having to use a hammer and a punch to get it out. its that tight
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