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Posted: 2/20/2010 1:35:41 PM EDT
I just order a DPMS RFLR-AP4 it should be here next week  . I have seen many posts indicating that the DPMS triggers suck. What trigger should I get and how hard is it to change?
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I just order a DPMS RFLR-AP4 it should be here next week . I have seen many posts indicating that the DPMS triggers suck. What trigger should I get and how hard is it to change?I have a JP enterprises adjustable in my LR308. Much better than the stock unit. |
| I bought a 2 pound trigger from Brownells for about $140.00. Although it came out with 2.5 pounds actual pull weight, it is very satisfactory FOR A MATCH RIFLE. I wouldn't change from the stock trigger for a defense weapon unless there is one specifically made for that purpose, and the manufacturer will guarantee that it won't screw up when you need it most. |
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Geissele SSA. If you are looking a non-adjustable, combat ready, 2 stage trigger. If you can remove and install the stock trigger, you can install the SSA. Not hard. +1 on the SSA. If you want to stay with a single stage, I recommend sending your stock trigger to Bill Springfield for his modification. I've been pleased with his work. |
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Here is my post from another thread, which can be found here.
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I was in the same boat as you. My stock trigger felt like I was dragging a chain down a gravel road. I wanted a better trigger but didn't want to spend an arm and a leg. I read about the RRA 2-stage, but read as many people saying they didn't like them as people that said they did like them. Then I read about Bill Springfield... I called him on the phone, he seemed like a real nice guy and he took time to talk with me. We actually talked more about where he lives and how he likes Colorado. What difference does that make? Well, the point I am trying to make is he was willing to spend time talking about stuff that doesn't make him money. Gave me a sense about his character. OK, whatever, get to the point fella. So, I sent my stock trigger to him. I also send one for my .223. I wanted to get the 3 pound pull, so I didn't have to send any springs along, as those get replaced with JP springs. I got them back from him in about 5 days. When I opened the mailbox and saw them I was shocked, as I couldn't believe there was time for him to get the parts, perform his work, and get them shipped back to me so quick. Of course, dropping in the parts is a job that takes less than 5 minutes. The trigger had very little take up, and broke very clean. I tried the .308 out on the range and it definitely improved my performance, and therefore improved my satisfaction with my LR308. I only have iron sights, so I won't talk much about groups. But I will tell you that I am shooting steel targets at 445 yards with irons. With the old trigger I could hit a 24" by 24" steel about 1 out of 5 times. Now I can hit it about 4 out of 5 times. Again, with iron sights. Lets talk about primer ignition. I recently started hand loading 308. All rounds go bang with the 3# Bill Springfield trigger job. I also have some surplus Port 308. Those are about 80% or about 4 out of 5. Multiple strikes made all rounds go boom. So, what to do about that? Well, from my understanding, if I put the stock springs in it will bring me up to a 4# trigger. In fact, Mr. Springfield told me that the JP/stock springs were the only difference in his #3 and 4# trigger job. Let's talk about pull weight. I took my my .223 that I also put a Bill Springfield trigger in to show my friend who is a gunsmith. He runs the $300+ AR Gold triggers in his guns. I wanted to show him what my $50 trigger felt like. He was impressed. So what...? I asked him to use him "trigger pull gauge" thing and I pulled the trigger three times with it. It broke at 2 pounds 13 ounces all three times. I felt that was consistent enough for me. Sure I could have done it 100 times and taken an average, but I was satisfied that it was a 3# trigger as advertised. So, to wrap all the ramble up, the Bill Springfield trigger is well worth my time and money. In fact, for my money and skill level, I am not interested in getting a "better" trigger. Try it out, I think you will be just as pleased as I am. Good luck! jonblack |
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Here is my post from another thread, which can be found here. Quoted:
I was in the same boat as you. My stock trigger felt like I was dragging a chain down a gravel road. I wanted a better trigger but didn't want to spend an arm and a leg. I read about the RRA 2-stage, but read as many people saying they didn't like them as people that said they did like them. Then I read about Bill Springfield... I called him on the phone, he seemed like a real nice guy and he took time to talk with me. We actually talked more about where he lives and how he likes Colorado. What difference does that make? Well, the point I am trying to make is he was willing to spend time talking about stuff that doesn't make him money. Gave me a sense about his character. OK, whatever, get to the point fella. So, I sent my stock trigger to him. I also send one for my .223. I wanted to get the 3 pound pull, so I didn't have to send any springs along, as those get replaced with JP springs. I got them back from him in about 5 days. When I opened the mailbox and saw them I was shocked, as I couldn't believe there was time for him to get the parts, perform his work, and get them shipped back to me so quick. Of course, dropping in the parts is a job that takes less than 5 minutes. The trigger had very little take up, and broke very clean. I tried the .308 out on the range and it definitely improved my performance, and therefore improved my satisfaction with my LR308. I only have iron sights, so I won't talk much about groups. But I will tell you that I am shooting steel targets at 445 yards with irons. With the old trigger I could hit a 24" by 24" steel about 1 out of 5 times. Now I can hit it about 4 out of 5 times. Again, with iron sights. Lets talk about primer ignition. I recently started hand loading 308. All rounds go bang with the 3# Bill Springfield trigger job. I also have some surplus Port 308. Those are about 80% or about 4 out of 5. Multiple strikes made all rounds go boom. So, what to do about that? Well, from my understanding, if I put the stock springs in it will bring me up to a 4# trigger. In fact, Mr. Springfield told me that the JP/stock springs were the only difference in his #3 and 4# trigger job. Let's talk about pull weight. I took my my .223 that I also put a Bill Springfield trigger in to show my friend who is a gunsmith. He runs the $300+ AR Gold triggers in his guns. I wanted to show him what my $50 trigger felt like. He was impressed. So what...? I asked him to use him "trigger pull gauge" thing and I pulled the trigger three times with it. It broke at 2 pounds 13 ounces all three times. I felt that was consistent enough for me. Sure I could have done it 100 times and taken an average, but I was satisfied that it was a 3# trigger as advertised. So, to wrap all the ramble up, the Bill Springfield trigger is well worth my time and money. In fact, for my money and skill level, I am not interested in getting a "better" trigger. Try it out, I think you will be just as pleased as I am. Good luck! jonblack Excellent! Makes me feel even better about my decision. |
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the question hee is how much do you want to spend?
I removed my RRA two stage trigger for a single stage trigger trigger with JP spring kit. I LOVE the trigger. I polished it, put the kit in, and it is not a top of the line match trigger. It is smooth and breaks at about 4-4.5 lbs. |
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Geissele SSA. If you are looking a non-adjustable, combat ready, 2 stage trigger. If you can remove and install the stock trigger, you can install the SSA. Not hard. Probably your best choice, also the SSA is currently being used by the military, and very easy to install. |
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