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Posted: 5/16/2011 8:32:07 AM EDT
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Is there a way to remove the takedown pin without removing the stock. I want to install a Demon Tactical takedown pin but really would prefer not to have to loosen the castlenut if necessary. Just wondering if there was any tricks.
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Save your cash. talk about worthless shit for a ar. Aside from potentially wasting money what makes it worthless? I guess my question is what are the drawbacks? 1) Snag hazard. The lever sticks out from the rifle and looks like it can become caught on gear. 2) $40 price for equipment to tighen up the fit of your upper/lower? Same can be done with an acuwedge or simple foam ear plug stuck under the upper receiver rear lug. There is an old saying about a person being parted from their money easily...........but if you like it, knock yourself out, enjoy the thing. |
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Save your cash. talk about worthless shit for a ar. Aside from potentially wasting money what makes it worthless? I guess my question is what are the drawbacks? 1) Snag hazard. The lever sticks out from the rifle and looks like it can become caught on gear. 2) $40 price for equipment to tighen up the fit of your upper/lower? Same can be done with an acuwedge or simple foam ear plug stuck under the upper receiver rear lug. There is an old saying about a person being parted from their money easily...........but if you like it, knock yourself out, enjoy the thing. Fair enough and thanks for the honesty. I will try the accuwedge route. |
| Why can't you just pull the take down pin part of the way out and depress/hold the spring detent with a small screwdriver and then slide the take down pin all the way out? If you have concerns about a simple stock removal then you should not be doing ANYTHING to your AR. |
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As others have said, no you are going to have to remove the endplate.
And since everyone is putting in their 2 cents on the product itself.... I like the idea of both the mil loc and the quick pin, not so much because of the whole "eliminating movement" thing but some peoplehave upper/lowers that are so freaking tight you can't break it down quickly in the field and have to use a punch. As far as im concerned you shouldn't need tools to break down the AR and this helps with that. Is retarded expensive though. |
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Why do ppl care so much about slight play in the upper/lower?
It doesnt effect the gun at all and when your shooting you cant feel it. Items like this were only created to cheat ppl out of their money by playing up crap like the wobble, because if theres something to fix it that means it must be bad.......i just domt get it |
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Why can't you just pull the take down pin part of the way out and depress/hold the spring detent with a small screwdriver and then slide the take down pin all the way out? If you have concerns about a simple stock removal then you should not be doing ANYTHING to your AR. No concerns about taking the stock out. I take everything apart on everything I own sometimes to my detriment. Hell I once even took apart my tv to get rid of an irritating piece of dust that was showing throught the DLP screen. I was just being lazy is all. |
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Why can't you just pull the take down pin part of the way out and depress/hold the spring detent with a small screwdriver and then slide the take down pin all the way out? If you have concerns about a simple stock removal then you should not be doing ANYTHING to your AR. Get one of the small screwdriver sets. Pull the pin out and figure out which flat head fits in the detent channel best. Remove the screw driver and lightly bend the blade of the screw driver up so you can use leverage to push down the detent. Simple, easy and quick. |
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Why can't you just pull the take down pin part of the way out and depress/hold the spring detent with a small screwdriver and then slide the take down pin all the way out? If you have concerns about a simple stock removal then you should not be doing ANYTHING to your AR. Get one of the small screwdriver sets. Pull the pin out and figure out which flat head fits in the detent channel best. Remove the screw driver and lightly bend the blade of the screw driver up so you can use leverage to push down the detent. Simple, easy and quick. I may be incorrectly assuming that the OP knows this, but if you did this, wouldn't the detent launch if one wasn't careful? |
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Why can't you just pull the take down pin part of the way out and depress/hold the spring detent with a small screwdriver and then slide the take down pin all the way out? If you have concerns about a simple stock removal then you should not be doing ANYTHING to your AR. Get one of the small screwdriver sets. Pull the pin out and figure out which flat head fits in the detent channel best. Remove the screw driver and lightly bend the blade of the screw driver up so you can use leverage to push down the detent. Simple, easy and quick. I may be incorrectly assuming that the OP knows this, but if you did this, wouldn't the detent launch if one wasn't careful? 50% chance it will go airborne. IMO you should save your $$. Eventually you will regret not having a standard part. Buy 3 boxes of M193 instead. My m16 is loos and sloppy and it chugs out lead like something that excels at chugging out lead. LOL its not just a tactical..... Its a demon tactical LOL. (I do not understand why modern business adopt such Gothic and dark imagery for a over hyped product placement) |
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I've never felt the need to correct any of the upper/lower slop on my ARs, but a couple of my range buddies use a ten cent rubber o-ring around the rear takedown lug to correct theirs.
Sounds like a much simpler solution to the OP's issue 
I'm not going to judge someone based on what they do with their own rifle, but personally I'd try the ten cent route first  Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Is there a way to remove the takedown pin without removing the stock. Just wondering if there was any tricks. Back to the original question –– the correct answer is yes If you are careful the takedown spring and detent will extend accross the hole and stop. |
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Is there a way to remove the takedown pin without removing the stock. Just wondering if there was any tricks. Back to the original question –– the correct answer is yes If you are careful the takedown spring and detent will extend accross the hole and stop. Thanks. So a small screwdriver set - I already have one :-) |
I'll just say that I ended up taking the stock off..
Wow, I just googled it to see what it was about.  Are they seriously trying to claim that you gain more accuracy once you use their pin to get rid of upper/lower slop.
"In conclusion I believe that this product does what Demon Tactical set out to achieve. Once adjusted, it is very easy to use. If you are looking for a product to accurize your rifle then this product is definately worth looking at. Its upsides are a tighter fitting rifle which will last longer and be more accurate." |
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Wow, I just googled it to see what it was about. Are they seriously trying to claim that you gain more accuracy once you use their pin to get rid of upper/lower slop.
"In conclusion I believe that this product does what Demon Tactical set out to achieve. Once adjusted, it is very easy to use. If you are looking for a product to accurize your rifle then this product is definately worth looking at. Its upsides are a tighter fitting rifle which will last longer and be more accurate." Not sure about this review - don't really know them so take it with a grain of salt: http://www.gunn-fighter.com/demontactical.html |
| No you have to remove the end plate and tight upper and lower fit does not equal more accuracy.A free float handguard would give more accuracy increase then a tight upper and lower wich will effect nothing but taking the rifle apart quickly something necessary for a field rifle.. |
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