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8/10/2015 10:29:16 PM EDT
Hiya Everyone, I have a few dumb questions. What size roll pin punches to do I need for the trigger guard and the bolt catch?
What brand of roll pin punches are quality punches that won't require me selling my arm or leg? Granted this will be the only time
I will probably ever use or need them so I hate to buy a whole set. What brand of punches do you suggest? What are your opinions please?
I have read some horror stories on some of the punches that I found in Google. lol Is the Craftsman's set pretty good? Thank you all
for putting up with me and for all the help you all have given me in the past. Take care & have a great night, Mark
8/10/2015 10:40:09 PM EDT
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Hiya Everyone, I have a few dumb questions. What size roll pin punches to do I need for the trigger guard and the bolt catch?
What brand of roll pin punches are quality punches that won't require me selling my arm or leg? Granted this will be the only time
I will probably ever use or need them so I hate to buy a whole set. What brand of punches do you suggest? What are your opinions please?
I have read some horror stories on some of the punches that I found in Google. lol Is the Craftsman's set pretty good? Thank you all
for putting up with me and for all the help you all have given me in the past. Take care & have a great night, Mark
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Take a look at a few of these on Amazon.  A set of roll pin starters is also listed there and you wont regret buying a set of those.
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_c_0_8?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=roll+pin+punch+set&sprefix=roll+pin%2Caps%2C236
8/10/2015 10:43:26 PM EDT
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Put my only lower together with these, cheap and easy.

http://www.amazon.com/TEKTON-66063U-32-Inch-Roll-Punch/dp/B00QV2JTXK

3/32" & 1/8" where all that I used.

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8/10/2015 10:44:25 PM EDT
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I went through a bunch of cheap crap before I bought a good set of Starrett punches.  Learn from my mistakes.
8/10/2015 10:46:36 PM EDT
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Over kill for one time use.
8/10/2015 11:07:43 PM EDT
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Thanks for the replies!! I will check them out. Is there any place that just sells the 2 sizes I need or are they the same size roll pin punches needed?
Damn, I don't know if that sentence makes sense or not. lol Thanks again.
8/10/2015 11:14:18 PM EDT
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Old drill bits. First, read the sticky on assembly, you can use vice grips with taped jaws. Second - avoid split roll pins, the spiral wound type are much easier to install. And last, you can tap that pin the last smidge with an old drill bit the right size.

Buy a set of special roll pin punches for one build? I've done two and would rather keep using old drill bits so that the other money shows up on the gun, not my tool box rusting away. I've already got old drill bits sitting in it..
8/10/2015 11:14:52 PM EDT
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Damn, I don't know if that sentence makes sense or not. lol Thanks again.
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Just google the sizes you want....don't see the problem.

Look at the link posted by splunkinoob.  All different sizes.

I would just get a set from amazon.  
8/10/2015 11:21:13 PM EDT
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Damn, I am Blind & Brain Dead!!!!! :) Sorry, I totally missed the sizes. Thanks Splunkinoob & Everyone else. I don't know what I would do without you all.
8/10/2015 11:27:24 PM EDT
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I got a set of squirell daddy stainless roll pin starters for 17.95 and a set of Grace USA steel roll pin punches for 27.99 from Amazon.
Both have worked great and both are made in the US.
8/10/2015 11:34:15 PM EDT
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NO.  Look at Little Crow Gunworks.  Buy their special tools for the task.
8/10/2015 11:34:53 PM EDT
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I bought just the two from the link I posted, it might be cheaper to buy a set with shipping.  I threw them in on another order I placed that qualified for free shipping.

There are couple reviews from guys that bent them, if you're hitting them hard enough to bend them on an AR lower, you're doing something wrong.  Just make sure to support the trigger guard ears and install them carefully, they do break off on occasion.
8/10/2015 11:41:18 PM EDT
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Years ago I purchased these roll pin punches and roll pin holders, these have proved themselves worth the money many times over.



http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/general-gunsmith-tools/punches/brownells-roll-pin-punches-prod26482.aspx



http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/general-gunsmith-tools/punches/roll-pin-holders-prod781.aspx



And for the bolt catch pin there is a specialized tool if you feel the need for it.

http://www.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/rifle-tools/bolt-tools/dissassembly-tools/bolt-catch-pin-punch-prod26484.aspx
8/10/2015 11:42:00 PM EDT
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I used a $3.50 Tekton punch from Home Depot for my bolt catch pin.  It is a proper roll pin punch.

I used vise grips for my trigger guard and I cannot believe how easy it was to get the pin in.
8/11/2015 12:21:37 AM EDT
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Thanks again Guys! You all are the GREATEST! Later, Mark
8/11/2015 12:53:11 AM EDT
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Damn, I don't know if that sentence makes sense or not. lol Thanks again.
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I have lots of sets from various manufacturers, but this is the one I prefer to use...pins go in perfectly every time, with little effort:

punches
8/11/2015 1:10:31 AM EDT
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This is what I have used on three builds.  They worked out great....no problems of bending of the small ones.

They are long and a useful when you need a pilot to keep two holes lines up so that you can then get the roll pin started.  Very useful.

http://www.amazon.com/Grip-Roll-Pin-Punch-Pieces/dp/B003L7HOMG/ref=pd_sim_469_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=1KHM2QPBRSB8QZN62PDR
8/11/2015 2:46:29 AM EDT
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Thanks so much for the help. I just bought the ones that I need from Amazon. I hated to buy a whole set
and never use them again. I can use that money for ammo. I really appreciate your time and help.
I am going to buy the Spikes trigger guard and I really hadn't decided on the brand of bolt catch
or on the option yet. Take care & have a great night/day, Mark
8/11/2015 4:18:39 AM EDT
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A little late, sorry.  Brownells has a sale right now.  If you type in Grace roll pin, the first page will have a link for individual roll pin punches and roll pin holders.  The Grace roll pin punches are $4.50 each and the roll pin holders are $5.50 each.  You could buy just the punches for $9 plus shipping or the punches and holders for $20 plus shipping.  The holders are nice to have, especially for the bolt catch pin.
8/11/2015 6:55:18 AM EDT
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8/11/2015 9:28:11 AM EDT
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I bought a set of Grace from Brownells. Very happy with them for the price
8/11/2015 11:28:31 PM EDT
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Thanks Everyone for your time & help. Later
8/12/2015 6:48:38 PM EDT
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Over kill for one time use.

Building ARs is addictive enough that "one time use" isn't really applicable here.
8/12/2015 10:53:50 PM EDT
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I have a set of the Grip punches from Amazon. They work great. Used them on several builds.
8/14/2015 8:41:09 PM EDT
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VICE GRIPS.
8/14/2015 9:12:02 PM EDT
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Mine are a combination of Starrett Brass and Steel straight punches, Grace roll pin punches, and a couple Brownells specialty AR punches. All have been great and you are kidding yourself if you think they are for one time use... AR building is a disease.
8/15/2015 6:52:17 AM EDT
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Over kill for one time use.

Building ARs is addictive enough that "one time use" isn't really applicable here.


Right...not to mention that after handing over a bit of money to a less than scrupulous LGS to assemble a AR 15 from my parts, I swore that I was going to do another build just so I could do it myself.  The tools can add up depending on the quality you go with but I am building this myself almost out of spite, I really didn't care about the fact that I may never use the tools again.  Living in CT.,... acquiring legal lowers is difficult at best and not cheap.
8/15/2015 6:54:05 AM EDT
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Over kill for one time use.

Building ARs is addictive enough that "one time use" isn't really applicable here.


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8/15/2015 6:08:07 PM EDT
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430 channel locks and some tape. Could not be easier, and no risk of damage to your lower.
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