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Posted: 1/30/2014 6:57:22 AM EDT
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I am looking at getting a LH AR15. I already know most of you are right handed and also most of the southpaws are great at adapting.
There are 3 brands Noveske via lefthandrifles.com, Rock River, and Stag. I'm leaning toward the noveske but they are mostly sold out and I don't even know what I want other than LH and quality. My first question is what barrel length do you recommend? Noveske has a 14.5" barrel pinned to 16" OAL, a 16", and a 18". I know somewhat it depends on a persons needs. SHTF, maybe home invasion post natural disaster or societal breakdown, I want a well made LH rifle, AR15's look fun to learn, and most importantly I'd like to exercise my constitutional right. I also enjoy target shooting. |
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I'd do this if I was on a budget. Buy regular right handed rifle. The put ambi mag release from Troy on it. Then put a left handed or ambi safety on it.
If I didn't have a budget I'd get a KAC full rifle which is full ambi. They've even got bolt release on the 'wrong side' of the gun as well. I am a lefty and I have been toying around with a lot of parts. One day I'll go KAC, until then just stick with mag release and safety parts. You can cup your hand around the magwell to slap the bolt release and it really isn't going to slow you down any. BTW many right handed folks lust after KAC rifles like all hell so you're getting a great rifle and not just ambi accessoried crap. |
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Lefty here, have you considered the advantages of a nice AK? A lot of the ergonomic gripes that people have due to the controls disappear for a lefty.
I terms of the ARs: Have you handled these rifles? I held a Stag lefty at a gun show once, and IIRC the lower receiver controls are still right handed (except for maybe the safety). I haven't shot an AR in a long time, but I dont recall the brass ejecting across the face giving me any trouble. It was actually kind of nice to have the ejection port easily visible. I would personally go standard AR with some add on ambi controls (safety, charging handle, maybe BAD lever). |
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I'd do this if I was on a budget. Buy regular right handed rifle. The put ambi mag release from Troy on it. Then put a left handed or ambi safety on it. If I didn't have a budget I'd get a KAC full rifle which is full ambi. They've even got bolt release on the 'wrong side' of the gun as well. +1. My first rifle is going to be a KAC. Being a lefty, I love the feel of a full ambi KAC. |
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I am looking at getting a LH AR15. I already know most of you are right handed and also most of the southpaws are great at adapting. There are 3 brands Noveske via lefthandrifles.com, Rock River, and Stag. I'm leaning toward the noveske but they are mostly sold out and I don't even know what I want other than LH and quality. My first question is what barrel length do you recommend? Noveske has a 14.5" barrel pinned to 16" OAL, a 16", and a 18". I know somewhat it depends on a persons needs. SHTF, maybe home invasion post natural disaster or societal breakdown, I want a well made LH rifle, AR15's look fun to learn, and most importantly I'd like to exercise my constitutional right. I also enjoy target shooting. This PLUS This And This that will give you a 100% ambi lower receiver, but it is pricey(however buying all three from axts gives you 20 usd off, and no shipping) on the bonus side, the ax556 is .45 degree safety compatable, and has a tension bolt under the takedown pin to insure a secure fit with any upper. also, if you have a choice never by a barrel with a pined or solder flash hider, it's just a waste |
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I'm a lefty and I've been shooting standard AR's recreationally/competitively for the past ten years. Never had an issue with brass and the only thing I ever add is an ambi safety and mag release. Not cause I have to but, it's just a personal preference. I still train with standard AR's without those add on's though just in case.
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I'm a lefty and just went with a standard AR due to resale, WAY more brand options, and the ability to use any weapon easily instead of getting used to a rare configuration. I added an ambi safety and charging handle, but other than that I have zero problems and the ejection port never causes any issues. Its even easy to use a standard safety and charging handle, but obviously not ideal. I use my trigger finger to operate the bolt release and its not a problem.
Just don't ask me to write anything with a pencil, and I'm ok. Lefties will understand what I'm talking about. |
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also, if you have a choice never by a barrel with a pined or solder flash hider, it's just a waste Why is that? Can it be De-pinned later should I want to change a flash hider on the muzzle? Or is the shorter 1.5" barrel OAL problem not worth the hassle? Most of my questions would be: What barrel length? Is there a noticeable difference in quality between Stag and Noveske? If Noveske which model on this page?http://lefthandrifles.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?cat=4 Rogue hunter is cheaper and loses the flip down backup sights, has a teardrop style NSR instead of quad rail, loses the Gen III lower receiver (flared magwell), loses ambi charging handle, and AAC flash hider according to Mike. Should I go with a Stag their are endless models and specs/accessories to choose from. I don't fully understand the options well enough to make a decision. Which caliber? 5.56 seems like the obvious favorite. It is less expensive and more available. It also is rumored not powerful enough to ethically take down a deer; I don't hunt but the bullet projectile is really small which concerns me. |
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Just don't ask me to write anything with a pencil, and I'm ok. Lefties will understand what I'm talking about.  LMAO..Or ask me to write things out on a dry erase board. Or on a spiral bound notebook. |
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Why is that? Can it be De-pinned later should I want to change a flash hider on the muzzle? Or is the shorter 1.5" barrel OAL problem not worth the hassle? Most of my questions would be: What barrel length? Is there a noticeable difference in quality between Stag and Noveske? If Noveske which model on this page?http://lefthandrifles.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?cat=4 Rogue hunter is cheaper and loses the flip down backup sights, has a teardrop style NSR instead of quad rail, loses the Gen III lower receiver (flared magwell), loses ambi charging handle, and AAC flash hider according to Mike. Should I go with a Stag their are endless models and specs/accessories to choose from. I don't fully understand the options well enough to make a decision. Which caliber? 5.56 seems like the obvious favorite. It is less expensive and more available. It also is rumored not powerful enough to ethically take down a deer; I don't hunt but the bullet projectile is really small which concerns me. Quoted:
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also, if you have a choice never by a barrel with a pined or solder flash hider, it's just a waste Why is that? Can it be De-pinned later should I want to change a flash hider on the muzzle? Or is the shorter 1.5" barrel OAL problem not worth the hassle? Most of my questions would be: What barrel length? Is there a noticeable difference in quality between Stag and Noveske? If Noveske which model on this page?http://lefthandrifles.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?cat=4 Rogue hunter is cheaper and loses the flip down backup sights, has a teardrop style NSR instead of quad rail, loses the Gen III lower receiver (flared magwell), loses ambi charging handle, and AAC flash hider according to Mike. Should I go with a Stag their are endless models and specs/accessories to choose from. I don't fully understand the options well enough to make a decision. Which caliber? 5.56 seems like the obvious favorite. It is less expensive and more available. It also is rumored not powerful enough to ethically take down a deer; I don't hunt but the bullet projectile is really small which concerns me. no a pin flashhider uses a blind pin, it also tend to damage the threading on the barrel, the only way to remove a pinned flashider evolved cutting the FH in half and basically breaking it off, or grinding the flashider down to the pin,and then removing said pin, both ways are a pin to remove. |
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Why is that? Can it be De-pinned later should I want to change a flash hider on the muzzle? Or is the shorter 1.5" barrel OAL problem not worth the hassle? Most of my questions would be: What barrel length? Is there a noticeable difference in quality between Stag and Noveske? If Noveske which model on this page?http://lefthandrifles.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?cat=4 Rogue hunter is cheaper and loses the flip down backup sights, has a teardrop style NSR instead of quad rail, loses the Gen III lower receiver (flared magwell), loses ambi charging handle, and AAC flash hider according to Mike. Should I go with a Stag their are endless models and specs/accessories to choose from. I don't fully understand the options well enough to make a decision. Which caliber? 5.56 seems like the obvious favorite. It is less expensive and more available. It also is rumored not powerful enough to ethically take down a deer; I don't hunt but the bullet projectile is really small which concerns me. Quoted:
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also, if you have a choice never by a barrel with a pined or solder flash hider, it's just a waste Why is that? Can it be De-pinned later should I want to change a flash hider on the muzzle? Or is the shorter 1.5" barrel OAL problem not worth the hassle? Most of my questions would be: What barrel length? Is there a noticeable difference in quality between Stag and Noveske? If Noveske which model on this page?http://lefthandrifles.com/cgi-bin/imcart/display.cgi?cat=4 Rogue hunter is cheaper and loses the flip down backup sights, has a teardrop style NSR instead of quad rail, loses the Gen III lower receiver (flared magwell), loses ambi charging handle, and AAC flash hider according to Mike. Should I go with a Stag their are endless models and specs/accessories to choose from. I don't fully understand the options well enough to make a decision. Which caliber? 5.56 seems like the obvious favorite. It is less expensive and more available. It also is rumored not powerful enough to ethically take down a deer; I don't hunt but the bullet projectile is really small which concerns me. 16" Noveske makes amazing barrels. Their guns are top notch. Caliber 5.56 for a bunch of reasons. Once you get into this more and if you get a second rifle or upper, then you can start looking at alternative calibers. My opinion on how you should go about it, but your first/only should be 5.56. Yes you can ethically take whitetail with the 5.56, be aware that shooting into any vegetation will throw off your accuracy. Shot placement is key with all deer hunting, regardless of round. My brother gut shot two deer with his 300 Weatherby Magnum this year that required us going hundreds of yards into a thicket of briars and pine trees. Was that a more "ethical" kill than a neck or high shoulder shot with a 223? You say you don't hunt, so I don't see that this would be a big issue for you anyway. Lastly, how is it you live in LA and having shot an AR or AK? You need to remedy that pronto. Welcome to arfcom. |
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Maybe you should start by answering this question honestly:
How much am I willing to spend on the rifle and do I plan to add optics? Everyone has a budget of some sort. You could build a LH AR easily for under $1K or you could spend many times that amount. But being honest with yourself up front will make a lot of choices easier. I am the master of budget creep. Glad to see so much activity in this thread. Leftys rule the world! :) |
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Maybe you should start by answering this question honestly: How much am I willing to spend on the rifle and do I plan to add optics? Everyone has a budget of some sort. You could build a LH AR easily for under $1K or you could spend many times that amount. But being honest with yourself up front will make a lot of choices easier. I am the master of budget creep. Glad to see so much activity in this thread. Leftys rule the world! :) i'm a righty...but my first build, (one of 4 future builds) is a adacs lower, (and my future builds will most likely be adacs lowers as well) because i like teh ability of have a ambidextous rifle |
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I have more than one AR. One is a Lefty built with STAG upper/BCG. It's by far my favorite. Zero malfunctions in 1,200 rounds. Zero visible wear. About 35 hours of hard field use.
One additional benefit of a lefty is you don't have the brass deflector, dust cover, and forward assist pressing against your chest when it's slung. Also, if you shoot a can you get less gas to the face. Don't take advice about a product from idiots who don't have experience with said product. I have both. I shoot both. I like my standard configured rifles. I like my lefty more. |
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Maybe you should start by answering this question honestly: How much am I willing to spend on the rifle and do I plan to add optics? It would be nice if the rifle and optic would be under 5K. I can spend more or less than that. I've seen a scope for 10K, I'm not into spending 10K on a thermal scope. I only want one AR rifle, maybe a 2nd in a different caliber. My most used pistol is my Cabot Southpaw. I shoot LH and RH pistols. I never get confused how to chamber a round, look through my sights, or how to pull the trigger. I don't hunt, but hearing how the rifle is underpowered for deer I fear it is underpowered for home defense. This is my ignorant uneducated concern. The crime in the greater New Orleans doesn't involve body armor to my knowledge yet. Two years ago there was a home invasion on my side of town just several streets over from my house, what happens when they do start wearing body armor? http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2011/08/elderly_couple_and_caretaker_t.html http://www.fox8live.com/story/23096813/an-elderly-woman-becomes-home-invasion-victim http://wgno.com/2013/02/04/suspects-wanted-in-metairie-home-invasion/#axzz2rv5bUex2 http://www.fox8live.com/story/18778915/d |
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As a lefty, I think the left-handed AR is a solution looking for a problem. Through countless rounds on the range and competition the brass crossing my face has never been an issue at all. All you need to add to a rifle is an ambi-safety and possibly mag release. The only left handed rifles I see being useful are bullpups and bolt guns. |
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It would be nice if the rifle and optic would be under 5K. I can spend more or less than that. I've seen a scope for 10K, I'm not into spending 10K on a thermal scope. I only want one AR rifle, maybe a 2nd in a different caliber. My most used pistol is my Cabot Southpaw. I shoot LH and RH pistols. I never get confused how to chamber a round, look through my sights, or how to pull the trigger. I don't hunt, but hearing how the rifle is underpowered for deer I fear it is underpowered for home defense. This is my ignorant uneducated concern. The crime in the greater New Orleans doesn't involve body armor to my knowledge yet. Two years ago there was a home invasion on my side of town just several streets over from my house, what happens when they do start wearing body armor? http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2011/08/elderly_couple_and_caretaker_t.html http://www.fox8live.com/story/23096813/an-elderly-woman-becomes-home-invasion-victim http://wgno.com/2013/02/04/suspects-wanted-in-metairie-home-invasion/#axzz2rv5bUex2 http://www.fox8live.com/story/18778915/d Quoted:
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Maybe you should start by answering this question honestly: How much am I willing to spend on the rifle and do I plan to add optics? It would be nice if the rifle and optic would be under 5K. I can spend more or less than that. I've seen a scope for 10K, I'm not into spending 10K on a thermal scope. I only want one AR rifle, maybe a 2nd in a different caliber. My most used pistol is my Cabot Southpaw. I shoot LH and RH pistols. I never get confused how to chamber a round, look through my sights, or how to pull the trigger. I don't hunt, but hearing how the rifle is underpowered for deer I fear it is underpowered for home defense. This is my ignorant uneducated concern. The crime in the greater New Orleans doesn't involve body armor to my knowledge yet. Two years ago there was a home invasion on my side of town just several streets over from my house, what happens when they do start wearing body armor? http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2011/08/elderly_couple_and_caretaker_t.html http://www.fox8live.com/story/23096813/an-elderly-woman-becomes-home-invasion-victim http://wgno.com/2013/02/04/suspects-wanted-in-metairie-home-invasion/#axzz2rv5bUex2 http://www.fox8live.com/story/18778915/d It is adequate for home defense. Hornady ballistic tip ammo, is less likely to over penetrate than most handgun ammo. Wounds from rifle rounds are exponentially more lethal than wounds from pistol rounds. You will hear plenty of detractors tell you that it is inadequate for defense, but typically that same person is certain that a .45acp round is a death ray. I understand your concerns, let me reassure you. A 223 will most certainly kill a whitetail deer. If you don't hit that deer in a place that will quickly incapacitate that deer, then it will run a long way before it dies and you may not be able to harvest the meat. A waste and that is what is "unethical." People screw up and do that all the time with 30-06 and arrows as well, so not unique to the 223. It will do its job if you do yours. Edit: there is a separate subforum on here about deer hunting with the AR. Go check it out. Pics and everything. http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_10_23/626832_223__Deer_Hunting_Rounds.html |
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I bought a lefty Stag and i don't regret it. Other than a 6920 just to say i have one i don't see myself buying/building one that isn't made for me. Does a regular one work fine? yeah, but so does dragging my hand through my writing and getting ink or pencil lead all over.
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If your concerned about a SHTF scenario , you might want to stock up on parts . LH parts will be hard to come by . Good point, but in a SHTF scenario ALL parts will be hard to come by. I'm going on the assumption that if I don't have it now I won't be able to get it then. Doesn't matter if it's RH/LH. We've already seen what 'public sentiment' can do to the availability of parts let alone a true SHTF event. Get your spares. They're the only spares you'll ever have. |
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Also, if you shoot a can you get less gas to the face. I try to reduce breathing in lead when possible. Good to know the added benefits of a LH model. Is this really a problem? Great 
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Also, if you shoot a can you get less gas to the face. I try to reduce breathing in lead when possible. Good to know the added benefits of a LH model. Is this really a problem? Great What is the gas you breath in? Burned propellant/gunpowder and the leaded primer. There are lead free primers but they are uncommon, less consistent, and have more of a shelf life. I'm working on having more kids. I actually wear a dust mask when shooting at the indoor range. |
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Lefty here myself. I'm in the middle of building a lightweight lefty at the moment, will be posting up pics in the near future. As far as the Stag left handed, I just don't like the looks of the dust cover flipping up. Looks like an afterthought and like they made do with what was in the parts bin, not that there is anything wrong with that. I bought a Rock River LefT Operator last year when things were just going sideways. Felt lucky to snag it before prices got stupid. For the most part, damn near everything on that gun is designed as a left hand gun, almost a mirror image of a righty. Nice gun too for a factory build. They have a whole lot of choices now.
About taking brass to the face? I shot my buddies match rifle last week that has no dust cover, shell deflector or forward assist. First round that spit out was a direct eye shot! Glasses came in handy.... |
I am lefty, not by choice.....muscle/nerve damage to my right arm. I looked at Stag LH models and went in a different direction. Nothing wrong with Stag, but I started thinking about parts availability, swapping, upgrading, etc... I ended up with a LWRC M6IC, 1 of 500 edition. It has a full ambi lower. Not nice has the brass or gases bothered me in the least. I have just about $5,100 into it between rifle and scope. I have other things I have added or swapped out also for additional monies. But I know the OP said he is ok spending $5,000 between rifle and scope. Here is a pic of mine before the scope and changes/additions made.
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I bought a lefty Stag and i don't regret it. Other than a 6920 just to say i have one i don't see myself buying/building one that isn't made for me. Does a regular one work fine? yeah, but so does dragging my hand through my writing and getting ink or pencil lead all over. Also, i get to feel superior by having a unique AR. Don't judge me. I like the way you put things. I obviously am of the same mind. As leftys we're always having to adapt to do things the right-handed way. Screw that! If I can spend a couple of bucks and get a rifle made the "left" way then I am doing it. I love Stag for being one of the few who go out of their way to supply lefty parts. I also feel special for having a unique AR. You can judge me :) |
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It would be nice if the rifle and optic would be under 5K. I can spend more or less than that. I've seen a scope for 10K, I'm not into spending 10K on a thermal scope. I only want one AR rifle, maybe a 2nd in a different caliber. My most used pistol is my Cabot Southpaw. I shoot LH and RH pistols. I never get confused how to chamber a round, look through my sights, or how to pull the trigger. I don't hunt, but hearing how the rifle is underpowered for deer I fear it is underpowered for home defense. This is my ignorant uneducated concern. The crime in the greater New Orleans doesn't involve body armor to my knowledge yet. Two years ago there was a home invasion on my side of town just several streets over from my house, what happens when they do start wearing body armor? http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2011/08/elderly_couple_and_caretaker_t.html http://www.fox8live.com/story/23096813/an-elderly-woman-becomes-home-invasion-victim http://wgno.com/2013/02/04/suspects-wanted-in-metairie-home-invasion/#axzz2rv5bUex2 http://www.fox8live.com/story/18778915/d Quoted:
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Maybe you should start by answering this question honestly: How much am I willing to spend on the rifle and do I plan to add optics? It would be nice if the rifle and optic would be under 5K. I can spend more or less than that. I've seen a scope for 10K, I'm not into spending 10K on a thermal scope. I only want one AR rifle, maybe a 2nd in a different caliber. My most used pistol is my Cabot Southpaw. I shoot LH and RH pistols. I never get confused how to chamber a round, look through my sights, or how to pull the trigger. I don't hunt, but hearing how the rifle is underpowered for deer I fear it is underpowered for home defense. This is my ignorant uneducated concern. The crime in the greater New Orleans doesn't involve body armor to my knowledge yet. Two years ago there was a home invasion on my side of town just several streets over from my house, what happens when they do start wearing body armor? http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/2011/08/elderly_couple_and_caretaker_t.html http://www.fox8live.com/story/23096813/an-elderly-woman-becomes-home-invasion-victim http://wgno.com/2013/02/04/suspects-wanted-in-metairie-home-invasion/#axzz2rv5bUex2 http://www.fox8live.com/story/18778915/d did i get hit on the head, is the dollar worth nothing now a days... if 5k is your budget for a ar...i don't know what to say...make it gold plated,with platinum highlights, that said, for homedefense, some people say use a rifle, here a tip from a army vet DON'T USE A RIFLE, shotguns would be preferred for their point shoot style, but a handgun is the best firearm you can use for home defense. that siad your budget is way way way too high, ANYTHING we suggest is gonna be well below that budget |
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Quoted: No, Hell NO, Wrong. Quoted: Quoted: for homedefense, some people say use a rifle, here a tip from a army vet DON'T USE A RIFLE, shotguns would be preferred for their point shoot style, but a handgun is the best firearm you can use for home defense. No, Hell NO, Wrong. Haha, Army. What do you expect?
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As a lefty, You don't need or want a left handed AR. Just get a normal AR and add an Ambi safety. That is all You really need to do. Lefty as well, been shooting ar's for 25 years. Left hand models are not needed. Get a raptor charging handle, Battle Arms selector switch. |
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Im a lefty. 7 years in a Combat MOS in the army ( 13F forward observer) three deployments.
Ive seen a LOT of brass. The only brass thats ever hit me in the face was from a kiowa jacking up taliban from above me. I heard it after calling it in, then looked up.... Ive had plenty tapping my Kevlar from a saw, but from my own rifle not once, and that does include M4 Colts all beat to hell. adapt and overcome. I use my thumb to set safe, I mag punch with my right by tilting the rifle, pressing the button and flicking the mag out. buy what rifle fits your budget and desires, take it to the range. fire double shots on targets and rotate to safe between every paired shot group. once you get in the habit youll find the Ambi selector switch and ambi mag release by cleaning your rifle. ( I fire a Sig 716, and built Arak 21 with a billet lower, both are righty weapons) someday I may actually buy lefty weapons but IMO its not needed.. training trumps all. If you want to train to fight get three steel targets, set them up and double tap them rotating the shot order, between each shot rotate to safe and back to fire while acquiring your target. youll teach yourself to point shoot and clicking to safe with come second nature as well as to fire. then of course work on targeting without switching to safe. ( thats the ' shits done button") really though, unless your suppressing fire, or suck at shooting, there isnt a whole lot that is going to be standing and a threat after 30 rounds. youll have time enough to change mags and relocate. |
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for homedefense, some people say use a rifle, here a tip from a army vet DON'T USE A RIFLE, shotguns would be preferred for their point shoot style, but a handgun is the best firearm you can use for home defense. No, Hell NO, Wrong. lets do a test, tell me EXACTLY why a rifle is BETTER for home defense then a handgun, or shtogun? |
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did i get hit on the head, is the dollar worth nothing now a days... if 5k is your budget for a ar...i don't know what to say...make it gold plated,with platinum highlights, that said, for homedefense, some people say use a rifle, here a tip from a army vet DON'T USE A RIFLE, shotguns would be preferred for their point shoot style, but a handgun is the best firearm you can use for home defense. that siad your budget is way way way too high, ANYTHING we suggest is gonna be well below that budget I'm not trying to be ridiculous here. I honestly don't have a budget. I just want a well made rifle with the right parts on it from the beginning. I'd prefer learn from mistakes from guys willing to share their experience. I don't mind spending extra to get good parts the first time. If a Geisselle trigger is better I'd rather it from the beginning then have a standard trigger then pay even more to install it afterwards. If the rifle is 1,000 or 3,000 it makes no difference. I plan on keeping it for a long time. I'm also not trying to spend too much either. I want to spend enough to get something well built, durable, something worth fixing when it breaks. I'm also proficient with a 1911 either LH, RH, and ambidextrous models and glocks (although their triggers aren't as nice but the capacity is). |
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for homedefense, some people say use a rifle, here a tip from a army vet DON'T USE A RIFLE, shotguns would be preferred for their point shoot style, but a handgun is the best firearm you can use for home defense. No, Hell NO, Wrong. lets do a test, tell me EXACTLY why a rifle is BETTER for home defense then a handgun, or shtogun? If you ran out of ammo with your rifle THEN you could transfer to your pistol or shotgun. |
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for homedefense, some people say use a rifle, here a tip from a army vet DON'T USE A RIFLE, shotguns would be preferred for their point shoot style, but a handgun is the best firearm you can use for home defense. No, Hell NO, Wrong. lets do a test, tell me EXACTLY why a rifle is BETTER for home defense then a handgun, or shtogun? For home defense I'd agree the pistol is best inside my home. You have a free hand to open/close doors, or gather your children to a safe room. The other weapons have a long barrel which allows an intruder opportunity to grab when you walk through a door or around a hall. It's also what I regularly shoot so I am most comfortable with one. They have their weaknesses. I also read a handgun is useful only for fighting your way to your rifle. |
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for homedefense, some people say use a rifle, here a tip from a army vet DON'T USE A RIFLE, shotguns would be preferred for their point shoot style, but a handgun is the best firearm you can use for home defense. No, Hell NO, Wrong. lets do a test, tell me EXACTLY why a rifle is BETTER for home defense then a handgun, or shtogun? Where's Old Painless when you need him. Rifle has superior penetration against soft armor. Less penetration through walls using M193 vs. Pistol vs. Buckshot/Slugs Using expanding rifle ammo will greatly reduce overpenetrating 30 rounds on tap, quick reloads. More devestating to tissue. Longer range. Faster follow up shots. More retention than a pistol. The list goes on. |
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Quoted: Where's Old Painless when you need him. Rifle has superior penetration against soft armor. Less penetration through walls using M193 vs. Pistol vs. Buckshot/Slugs Using expanding rifle ammo will greatly reduce overpenetrating 30 rounds on tap, quick reloads. More devestating to tissue. Longer range. Faster follow up shots. More retention than a pistol. The list goes on. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: for homedefense, some people say use a rifle, here a tip from a army vet DON'T USE A RIFLE, shotguns would be preferred for their point shoot style, but a handgun is the best firearm you can use for home defense. No, Hell NO, Wrong. lets do a test, tell me EXACTLY why a rifle is BETTER for home defense then a handgun, or shtogun? Where's Old Painless when you need him. Rifle has superior penetration against soft armor. Less penetration through walls using M193 vs. Pistol vs. Buckshot/Slugs Using expanding rifle ammo will greatly reduce overpenetrating 30 rounds on tap, quick reloads. More devestating to tissue. Longer range. Faster follow up shots. More retention than a pistol. The list goes on. Get out of here with your facts. My HD rifle is a 10.5 inch. I can manuver doors just as easily as with a pistol and with 75 grain TAP it will fuck someone up
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Quoted: lets do a test, tell me EXACTLY why a rifle is BETTER for home defense then a handgun, or shtogun? Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: for homedefense, some people say use a rifle, here a tip from a army vet DON'T USE A RIFLE, shotguns would be preferred for their point shoot style, but a handgun is the best firearm you can use for home defense. No, Hell NO, Wrong. lets do a test, tell me EXACTLY why a rifle is BETTER for home defense then a handgun, or shtogun? Go with the pump shotty bro. If the sound of the racking doesn't cause the bad guy to drop dead all you need to do is point in the general direction. Birdshot is the best load to use.
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