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Posted: 8/5/2008 7:26:35 PM EDT
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So I have a DPMS LRT-SASS on order (who knows how long that will take to get here), and now I need some advice on scopes. I know it's probably a better idea to go top dollar on the scope rather than the gun, but I definitely can't afford an $800 Leupold Mk IV right now. From what I've been reading it seems like you can't really get under the $400-500 price range for a decent scope, so I was just wondering if anyone had suggestions for what brand/models would be good choices. The more inexpensive the better :-) I was thinking something like 3-9x40mm, mil-dot reticle if I could get one. And does anyone have a clue what ring height I can get away with for a 40mm objective and still clear the rear mangonel sight? Medium? High? |
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I just put a Bushnell 4200 Elite on my DPMS SASS 308 and love it. Variable 4x - 24x 50 mm objective. Priced around $400. Mounted it on a set of Barrett adjustable rings so I can get as much upper end MOA as I can. It clears the rear sight fine. Before, I had Millett rings (high) and it barely cleared it. I have a Leupold Mark IV variable on my Barrett 50 and to be honest, I can't tell that much difference as far as optics quality goes. Over twice the price of the Bushnell. |
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Well that is somewhat comforting. Does it hold zero with those adjustable rings? So if I'm only getting one with a 40mm objective do you guys think I still would need high rings? I didn't ask this earlier, but what are good brands of rings? I see Burris a lot. Any reason why Leupold rings are worth over $120? |
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I've got a Millett TRS-1, it's a 50mm scope (still works with normal rings, and the mounts typically used in an AR-10/15). Not a bad optic at all for under $300. Burris XTR rings (30mm) with that, and you've got a pretty effective bargain setup, while you save for a Leupold (that's precisely what I did, still have the Millet, but just spent the money on the Leupy) |
| With 40 mm, you should be able to use medium height rings but why take a chance. Just go for a pair of high Millets. 20 bucks. As for the Barrett adjustables, I have a set on my Barrett 50 and have had no issues after 300 shots with the rings slipping. So I figured if they held up to a 50, they'll hold up to a measiy 308! |
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Well I was going to get a Bushnell Elite 4200 3-9x40, but the Millet 4-16x50 tactical with a mil-dot reticle looks pretty convincing now. Does anyone think that going with the Millet would be a bad idea? Also can I get away with high rings for the Millet tactical or will I have to go all the way to extra-high? Sorry to be so clueless :-) |
You sure it wasn't a 6-24X50mm in the Bushnell 4200 Elite? I've been looking at the same scope but the cheapest I've found is $569 at www.theopticzone.com with side focus and mil-dot reticle. Where did you find one for $400? At that price, I may skip the Horus I'm planning and go with that one. Thanks in advance for any info. Sean |
You're right. 6 - 24. Side parallax adjustment and mil-dot reticle. Brain fart. And my cost was $470 from Jerry's Sport Center.
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My understanding (after visiting JSC) is that you have to be a retail distributor to buy for that price. I guess you're a retailer or FFL? Thanks for the info....great price, but unfortunately I don't have the hook up to get one that low.  Oh well, looks like I'll be getting a Horus anyway.  Sean |
+1 I have the Super Sniper on my LR-308 mounted on an Armalite one piece mount. All had for under $400.00. |
The Bushnell Elite 4200s supposedly still have better glass than the 6500. HTH, Sean |
Gratuitous Gun Porn:  My DPMS LR-308 and my SASS both have a Nikon Tactical Mildot 4-16 x 50 . Now days that scope would run around $1,000. I was fortunate to get some of the original ones before the price went up and I got them for around $600 each. I really like the scope, so chances are they will stay there. My Long Range .223 and my .308 Remington 700 both have a Millett TRS-1 Mildot 4-16 x 50. My DPMS AP-4 and my POF .223 AR both have a Millett DMS 1-4 X 24. Also for reference, I run a Nightforce 8-32 x 56 on my AR-50, and a Leupold Mark 4 8.5-25 x 50 LR/T M1 on my Sako .338 Lapua. That makes 4 Millett scopes that I am running, and while I would not replace my Nikon, Leupold, or Nightforce scopes, I am very happy with the Millett Scopes so far. Given that a number of my Millett Scopes have round counts into the hundreds on .308 rifles, it seems that they can handle the recoil well. I have been tempted to throw one of the Milletts on my .50 or .338 to see what it will do, but at this point I don't have the time or money to spare. I have run them through the paces shooting and adjusting my way from 100-600 yards and they seem to hold / return to zero with no major problems. The 1/8 MOA clicks take a little getting used to, but no real big deal. With the TRS-1 Scopes, you can use the rings they come with to mount them, unless you have some real unusual setup. I have a DPMS LR-260 and a Millett LRS-1 Mildot 6-25 x 56 in route (will be here tomorrow!). Given my past luck with the Millett scopes, I figured I would give the LRS-1 a try on this new rifle. I was able to pick it up for $370, so if it works well, it will be a real bargain compared to the Leupolds and Nikons. For practical / economical reasons I would go with a Millett TRS-1 Mildot 4-16 x 50, you should easily be able to get one for $300 or less. If you can find one, and can afford the extra $75-$100, might want to consider the LRS-1. Super Snipers are not bad scopes, I just prefer the variable power and higher magnification which they don't offer. Sorry, but I don't have any Bushnells to make a comparison to. Good Luck, "Capt Richardson" |
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