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12/27/2003 5:58:32 PM EDT
This may be a stupid question but, I normaly shoot 69 grain federal gold and 55 grain winchester out of my SPR. I normaly only shoot the 55 Grain at 25M. I only use the 69 grain at 100M or more. My question is will the 55 grain winchester damage the Barrel? I think it should be fine as it is not surplus ammo. The 55 grain I use is the 40rd winchester value pack from walmart. So far I have put 60 rds of the 55 grain and 50rds of 69 grain through the barrel(of course cleaning/breaking in etc). The accuaracy is still sub MOA I just dont want to damage my barrel shooting the cheap ammo. For 25m (indoor range when 100m is closed)I cant justify shooting a $14(per 20rds) box of 69 grain when the 55 grain is $4.00(per 20rds).
Thanks FREE

12/27/2003 9:12:29 PM EDT
[#1]
Keep shooting, you have nothing to worry about:-)
12/29/2003 8:14:34 AM EDT
[#2]
Free, that barrel (if it's a stainless) should go well past 10,000 rounds.  Your best accuracy will be below 3,000 rounds (at the USAMU at Benning we'll pull barrels at 2,500 because of the dropping "X" count, but for combat accuracy, i.e., Minute of E-type, you can go longer.

If you can get the chance, take it out to Range 66 some day when the competitiors are out practicing and stretch its legs to 600 yards.
12/29/2003 10:07:24 AM EDT
[#3]
Free we need to get you reloading (or atleast get you to teach your family to reload for you).  You can pump out quality ammo for less than 15 cents per round if you buy in bulk.  Plus it will be more accurate than the box stuff since it will be tuned to your rifle
12/29/2003 1:55:02 PM EDT
[#4]
Yea after I catch up bills im going to get a reloader. I gotta have one since match ammo is too expensive and really what else do I have to do?? stay on ARCOM all night?.
        FREE
12/29/2003 1:57:54 PM EDT
[#5]
Your still at Bragg right? also does someone stay at rg 66 all day Civilian etc?
   Thanks FREE

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Free, that barrel (if it's a stainless) should go well past 10,000 rounds.  Your best accuracy will be below 3,000 rounds (at the USAMU at Benning we'll pull barrels at 2,500 because of the dropping "X" count, but for combat accuracy, i.e., Minute of E-type, you can go longer.

If you can get the chance, take it out to Range 66 some day when the competitiors are out practicing and stretch its legs to 600 yards.
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12/30/2003 5:09:58 AM EDT
[#6]
No, I'm down at Benning now.  LT Cowan in the 504th is one of the guys trying to set up routine practice on 66.
1/3/2004 8:15:38 PM EDT
[#7]
Yea I was at the range with LT Cowen and I was in Afghanistan with him also. From what he was telling me He wanted a job at USAMU.
             FREE
1/3/2004 11:02:03 PM EDT
[#8]
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Free we need to get you reloading (or atleast get you to teach your family to reload for you).  You can pump out quality ammo for less than 15 cents per round if you buy in bulk.  Plus it will be more accurate than the box stuff since it will be tuned to your rifle
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Good and bad idea at the same time.  Sure, it starts small with a rock chucker kit and the basic accesories, but soon those basic accesories aren't enough.  Before you know it, you're shelling out hundreds of dollars for the top of the line crap like a Lyman DPS 1200 or a giraud trimmer just to save a little time.  And after that, a single stage isn't good enough, so say bye bye to another few hundred bucks for a progressive.  Then, you feel so guilty about spending so much $$$ on all the best equipment, you start pumping out round after round in order to break even for what you would have paid for the factory ammo, which leaves you with a surplus of ammo that will take you months to shoot off, and since you have to test all the new loads you made, it will take longer than that.  And after all that, it's not over.  In a little time, you notice the slight performance advantage in some off the wall caliber and you think "hey, I can load that ammo for cheap!", so you save your $$$ and get yourself a new upper in .xx caliber along with dies, brass, primers, bullets, and powder and a new scope dedicated to that upper, and you're out another thousand bucks or so.  Not to mention you need a whole room just for all your reloading crap, so you kick out one of your kids just to use that room.  Then, you spend days, weeks, and months brewing up recipes for the perfect cartridge for that gun, and visit the range on a daily basis, trying to get 5 bullets in one hole at 300 yards.  Your signifacant other grows tired of all the time you spend at the range and reloading bench, and leaves you for her masseuse at the local gym.  You forget to feed your dog, and it starves to death.  Personal hygiene becomes unimportant to you, and the range officer can tell you're coming even before you drive up to the parking lot because of your stench.  But none of that matter.  You know why?  It's because your obsession has taken a complete hold of you and your life. Five consecutive shots, one hole, 300 yards.  It takes years, but you don't care, because nothing else matters anymore.  Then, one day, it happens.  After 4 years, 132 days, 5 hours and 12 minutes after you opened up that rock chucker kit from midway, you did it.  Five shots, one tiny hole, 300 yards.  It's over.  Your life begins to return to normal.  You start to clean yourself up.  You get a new girlfriend and a new dog.  Everything's fine.  Then, one day, while surfing on arfcom, you see a pic of a 5 shot, one hole group, that was made at 400 yards, and the obsession starts again...

So the moral of the story here is, never try.

Wait!  Wrong moral (heh).  The moral of the story is, just be prepared, cuz it's just as bad (or worse) than the AR-15 bug.

1/4/2004 11:39:25 AM EDT
[#9]
[head still spinning] well I remember 2yrs ago this all started with a post ban bushmaster now look at me. What better thing do I have to spend my money on.
    Thanks FREE

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Free we need to get you reloading (or atleast get you to teach your family to reload for you).  You can pump out quality ammo for less than 15 cents per round if you buy in bulk.  Plus it will be more accurate than the box stuff since it will be tuned to your rifle
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Good and bad idea at the same time.  Sure, it starts small with a rock chucker kit and the basic accesories, but soon those basic accesories aren't enough.  Before you know it, you're shelling out hundreds of dollars for the top of the line crap like a Lyman DPS 1200 or a giraud trimmer just to save a little time.  And after that, a single stage isn't good enough, so say bye bye to another few hundred bucks for a progressive.  Then, you feel so guilty about spending so much $$$ on all the best equipment, you start pumping out round after round in order to break even for what you would have paid for the factory ammo, which leaves you with a surplus of ammo that will take you months to shoot off, and since you have to test all the new loads you made, it will take longer than that.  And after all that, it's not over.  In a little time, you notice the slight performance advantage in some off the wall caliber and you think "hey, I can load that ammo for cheap!", so you save your $$$ and get yourself a new upper in .xx caliber along with dies, brass, primers, bullets, and powder and a new scope dedicated to that upper, and you're out another thousand bucks or so.  Not to mention you need a whole room just for all your reloading crap, so you kick out one of your kids just to use that room.  Then, you spend days, weeks, and months brewing up recipes for the perfect cartridge for that gun, and visit the range on a daily basis, trying to get 5 bullets in one hole at 300 yards.  Your signifacant other grows tired of all the time you spend at the range and reloading bench, and leaves you for her masseuse at the local gym.  You forget to feed your dog, and it starves to death.  Personal hygiene becomes unimportant to you, and the range officer can tell you're coming even before you drive up to the parking lot because of your stench.  But none of that matter.  You know why?  It's because your obsession has taken a complete hold of you and your life. Five consecutive shots, one hole, 300 yards.  It takes years, but you don't care, because nothing else matters anymore.  Then, one day, it happens.  After 4 years, 132 days, 5 hours and 12 minutes after you opened up that rock chucker kit from midway, you did it.  Five shots, one tiny hole, 300 yards.  It's over.  Your life begins to return to normal.  You start to clean yourself up.  You get a new girlfriend and a new dog.  Everything's fine.  Then, one day, while surfing on arfcom, you see a pic of a 5 shot, one hole group, that was made at 400 yards, and the obsession starts again...

So the moral of the story here is, never try.

Wait!  Wrong moral (heh).  The moral of the story is, just be prepared, cuz it's just as bad (or worse) than the AR-15 bug.

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