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Posted: 7/8/2013 4:34:31 PM EDT
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If I build an AR15, and engrave a fictitious company name like "Bills Bullets, my town, USA" or whatever... And use serial number 000001. Then years later decide to sell it.. Is that legit?
A friend told me that to sell it, I have to contact the DOJ for a "block of numbers" and engrave those numbers on my firearm. I read what the BATF had on their website... But I was unaware that the DOJ had info for me to read also.. Can someone shed some light on this.. |
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When you say "build" do you mean build it from a purchased stripped lower? Or a 80% lower? A stripped lower already has a serial number.
80% lower info here on serial numbers |
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Your friend is less informed than he thinks he is. You can make a lower from a forging (or billet, or whatever) and you don't have to engrave anything at all on it. If you LATER sell it, there is mixed information about whether or not you need to put anything on it. Note that it is a Very Bad Idea to decide you're going to make any firearm just to sell it, because this is technically "manufacturing," and you DO need a very expensive license to do that.
If it were me, and I'd gone from a plain forging to a working AR lower, and later I decided to sell it, I would engrave identifying information on it, so that I could establish just exactly what I sold. But that does not seem to be a legal requirement. |
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Yes from an 80%. Im not building a gun to sell.. But if I happen to sell one of them..... Do I have to acquiring a serial number from the DOJ? This was a disagreement between a friend and myself that came up when he noticed my serial number was 000001 I have never heard this, you are allowed to build you're own gun As long as it you don't do it with the intent to sell it. That requires a license. And as far as I know you are not required to put a serial number on it, But it is recommended in case of theft |
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Yes from an 80%. Im not building a gun to sell.. But if I happen to sell one of them..... Do I have to acquiring a serial number from the DOJ? This was a disagreement between a friend and myself that came up when he noticed my serial number was 000001 No. All I ever do on my 80%'s is engrave some form of ID on the grip lug, hidden under the grip, so that I can prove it's mine should the need arise without any external engraving. I've also never sold a gun in my life. 
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Your friend is less informed than he thinks he is. You can make a lower from a forging (or billet, or whatever) and you don't have to engrave anything at all on it. If you LATER sell it, there is mixed information about whether or not you need to put anything on it. Note that it is a Very Bad Idea to decide you're going to make any firearm just to sell it, because this is technically "manufacturing," and you DO need a very expensive license to do that. If it were me, and I'd gone from a plain forging to a working AR lower, and later I decided to sell it, I would engrave identifying information on it, so that I could establish just exactly what I sold. But that does not seem to be a legal requirement. Do you have to have a license to sell a gun that you built if you bought the lower and got it through a FFL? |
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Your friend is less informed than he thinks he is. You can make a lower from a forging (or billet, or whatever) and you don't have to engrave anything at all on it. If you LATER sell it, there is mixed information about whether or not you need to put anything on it. Note that it is a Very Bad Idea to decide you're going to make any firearm just to sell it, because this is technically "manufacturing," and you DO need a very expensive license to do that. If it were me, and I'd gone from a plain forging to a working AR lower, and later I decided to sell it, I would engrave identifying information on it, so that I could establish just exactly what I sold. But that does not seem to be a legal requirement. Do you have to have a license to sell a gun that you built if you bought the lower and got it through a FFL? If you bought or assembled it with the INTENT to sell, then yes. If you bought it, shot it, kept it for a while, and decided you don't want it anymore, then no. |
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Your friend is less informed than he thinks he is. You can make a lower from a forging (or billet, or whatever) and you don't have to engrave anything at all on it. If you LATER sell it, there is mixed information about whether or not you need to put anything on it. Note that it is a Very Bad Idea to decide you're going to make any firearm just to sell it, because this is technically "manufacturing," and you DO need a very expensive license to do that. If it were me, and I'd gone from a plain forging to a working AR lower, and later I decided to sell it, I would engrave identifying information on it, so that I could establish just exactly what I sold. But that does not seem to be a legal requirement. Do you have to have a license to sell a gun that you built if you bought the lower and got it through a FFL? I think it's different from state to state, in mine we are not required to do anything. You give me money, I give you gun. The way it should be |
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